EdTechTalk Community Meeting
November 13, 2012
EdTechTalk Community Meeting
November 13, 2012
20:37:25 JL -> ETBS/Community pre-show on air now (Ustream)
20:37:34 JL -> skype ‘worldbridges’ to join in
20:39:40 kcaise -> jeff, are you teaching this year?
20:41:08 kcaise -> i got doggies playing and barking jeff
20:41:22 JL -> that’s what mute buttons are for
20:41:32 kcaise -> lol,okay
20:42:43 kcaise -> hi peggy
20:42:55 JL -> skype in peggy (worldbridges)
20:43:07 PeggyG -> hi-are we streaming on ustream or ETTA?
20:43:16 JL -> yes and yes
20:43:28 PeggyG -> thanks!
20:44:22 PeggyG -> I have no toolbar!! Ugh! have to log out and come back.
20:47:03 kcaise -> welcome back peggy
20:48:09 PeggyG -> getting the audio now–whew!
20:49:26 PeggyG -> as soon as I finish re-uploading the 85 tabs I had open when my browser froze 🙂
20:49:50 PeggyG -> will limit the video segments to 20 min max
20:51:05 ds -> rifflandia.org
20:51:14 ds -> rifflandia.com
20:51:40 PeggyG -> 45 min slots now
20:52:28 PeggyG -> yes an important half hour before the LAN party 🙂
20:52:45 PeggyG -> meet the co-conveners and get an overview of this year’s conference
20:53:36 carolteach4 -> Oh, hi Peggy – long time no hear from; it’s been busy for both of us, I’m sure.
20:53:54 PeggyG -> I’m so excited about the merger of Worldbridges/ETT/webcastacademy/k12online this year!!
20:54:07 PeggyG -> hi carolteach4!
20:54:38 PeggyG -> that’s funny!! DS!!
20:55:17 PeggyG -> yeah Jose!
20:55:43 PeggyG -> come to Phoenix Jose! it’s only 96 degrees 🙂
20:56:51 carolteach4 -> It was really warm for CT today – about 80-
20:58:02 carolteach4 -> That is so sad for public education
20:58:51 PeggyG -> subs don’t have to be highly qualified in our area
20:59:19 Cathy E -> All of my teachers were hired back – but some of them did not get the call until a few days before school began
20:59:50 JL -> you can also call 603-574-4923
20:59:57 JoseRodriguez -> we are still looking at the remants of the Bush Era
21:00:00 JL -> +16035744923
21:00:13 JoseRodriguez -> I can hear y’all on the ustream
21:00:48 JoseRodriguez -> I am cool for now..
21:00:54 PeggyG -> oh yes!! click on record!!
21:00:58 JoseRodriguez -> Will call in in a bit..
21:01:37 JoseRodriguez -> I also use call recorder for mac
21:01:39 PeggyG -> I’ve been using Call Recorder and Conference Recorder on my Mac for a couple of years with Skype and it does a great job!!
21:02:20 JoseRodriguez -> btw.. the live events committee for k12onlineconference rocks!!!
21:02:40 PeggyG -> thanks Jose!! we’re trying hard!!
21:02:55 JoseRodriguez -> DS … the man
21:03:51 JoseRodriguez -> I am manager @puentesalmundo.net 🙂
21:03:52 PeggyG -> does anyone know why we can’t add links in the ustream chat? tried to do it today in the webcast with Robert Squires and it always says <URL removed>
21:04:49 PeggyG -> so many fantastic opportunities!!
21:05:43 JoseRodriguez -> too funny
21:05:50 PeggyG -> can you explain the differences between Worldbridges and ETT?
21:06:27 PeggyG -> I still have some of those draft documents 🙂
21:06:43 dave -> lol
21:06:48 ds -> love it
21:06:49 dave -> he does have a shopping habit
21:07:01 PeggyG -> Hi Lorna!
21:07:09 Lorna -> Hi Peggy and all
21:07:26 Lorna -> system crashed – fun overload
21:07:46 PeggyG -> @Lorna-that happened to me at the beginning of the show too!
21:08:42 PeggyG -> what do you think of as a template JL?
21:10:09 dave -> need wine
21:10:41 JoseRodriguez -> wine 2X per week or your brain WILL shrink 🙂
21:10:51 dave -> i think i’m safe
21:11:38 JoseRodriguez -> Hi Alexis..
21:11:42 PeggyG -> it’s hard to think of a management structure when everyone is a co-contributor to the community
21:11:47 JL -> http://koreabridge.net/
21:11:59 PeggyG -> lots of overlapping circles 🙂
21:12:03 Alexis -> Hi Jose
21:12:05 JoseRodriguez -> Alexis.. is a Webcaster in training from Puentesalmundo
21:12:35 Alexis -> Dave
21:12:49 PeggyG -> it is definitely a very healthy community!!
21:12:50 sheila -> Hi Alexis! Science teacher here.
21:13:30 PeggyG -> how many managers are there? 🙂
21:13:35 Alexis -> Hi Sheila!
21:13:43 PeggyG -> Hi Shelia!
21:13:50 JoseRodriguez -> @Alexis is a Middle School Science teacher also
21:14:03 PeggyG -> fantastic to have you here Alexis!!
21:14:05 sheila -> Hi all!
21:14:13 JoseRodriguez -> @from Peru
21:14:26 Alexis -> yes, I am Science teacher in Peru
21:14:27 sheila -> Ohhh another science teacher . . .thinking Earthcast Echo!
21:14:37 PeggyG -> good thinking Sheila!
21:15:30 PeggyG -> but they provide very interesting historical perspective
21:15:41 PeggyG -> how would you decide what you no longer need to archive?
21:16:10 Lorna -> We have discussed storage being the responsility of each show before. Are you thinking in those terms?
21:16:20 JoseRodriguez -> easy …. archive everything
21:16:26 JoseRodriguez -> forever
21:16:56 alexr -> Hey — Dave
21:17:00 PeggyG -> you think like I do Jose!
21:17:02 alexr -> ‘s talking about us.
21:17:16 alexr -> Feeling like an old guy!
21:17:39 alexr -> washing dishes.
21:17:47 JoseRodriguez -> 21st.. Century in the house
21:17:56 alexr -> missed the beginning of what dave said.
21:17:56 PeggyG -> @Lorna-if storage was the responsibility of the show, what happens if the show host doesn’t have server space or doesn’t stay with the show?
21:17:58 JoseRodriguez -> sure..
21:20:08 PeggyG -> 🙂
21:20:40 PeggyG -> I don’t see anyone stepping forward to take charge of a more "aggressive" mission!
21:21:25 dave -> mostly jeff 🙂
21:22:02 JoseRodriguez -> I just have it on auto-replay for every show… of it’s elementary..
21:22:14 JoseRodriguez -> Thanks… Jeff and Dave.. etc…
21:22:41 PeggyG -> that’s not in the script Jeff!
21:22:50 JoseRodriguez -> so..did you meet Sam?
21:23:01 dave -> nope. he came to the conference dog free
21:23:16 sheila -> Hey we just mentioned you both and ETT at our last state edtech annual meeting this week.
21:24:00 JoseRodriguez -> nah..
21:24:15 Lorna -> *)
21:26:37 PeggyG -> is this still the mission of ETT? The community fosters the development of networks of educators who come together to collaborate, debate policies and practices, and support one another in their professional and personal use of educational technology.
21:27:12 PeggyG -> diigo search 🙂
21:27:15 JoseRodriguez -> that I can dig… as in produced in the community
21:27:57 stlouisohio -> anyone quick review on what we are discussing
21:28:06 PeggyG -> when you search diigo with your connections you get sites specifically recommended by people you know and trust
21:28:36 matt montagne -> hey y’all
21:28:43 stlouisohio -> hi
21:28:48 PeggyG -> I agree! that’s the focus of ETT!!
21:28:48 JoseRodriguez -> Hi Matt
21:29:01 sheila -> I know the quality of info I will get at ETT.
21:29:11 PeggyG -> it’s about the people and the community focused on ed tech
21:29:12 matt montagne -> Hey Jose
21:29:33 matt montagne -> I would ramp up the facebook fan page thing
21:29:39 PeggyG -> the comments and interaction happen during the shows for the most part
21:29:41 matt montagne -> don’t try to do it all with the website
21:29:49 stlouisohio -> i enjoy that i can trust and interact with different people, and get different ideas
21:29:50 sheila -> I agree Peggy!
21:29:55 Lorna -> audio feeds to work sound good
21:30:20 matt montagne -> good to hear DS!!
21:30:32 dave -> 🙂
21:30:33 Lorna -> It sounds like we are happy with the way things are going
21:30:38 PeggyG -> I keep crashing!!
21:30:41 dave -> nod nod
21:31:06 matt montagne -> i like thnat thought
21:31:58 PeggyG -> I love the idea of an ETT badge 🙂
21:31:58 Lorna -> can you tell us why we are having this discussion – I thought we had visited this before
21:32:11 Lorna -> I love the badge idea
21:32:29 matt montagne -> hey peggy, cathey, dave, lorna, sheila, et al
21:32:30 sheila -> I like the badge idea as spreading the word. As a member of . . . starts to sound exclusionary (is that a word?)
21:32:32 matt montagne -> agreed
21:32:35 kcaise -> woohooo!
21:32:36 matt montagne -> newsletter rocks!!!
21:32:40 matt montagne -> hey kim
21:32:42 Lorna -> kudos to newsletter team
21:32:48 PeggyG -> I’m thinking it’s time to survey members about the newsletter 🙂
21:33:00 matt montagne -> are ther e any other shows we’d like to see on ETT??
21:33:12 kcaise -> hi matt! sorry i missed gator radio last night
21:33:34 matt montagne -> np kim
21:33:37 PeggyG -> I think the site has improved a lot–easier to find things and the newsletter has an RSS feed too 🙂
21:33:52 stlouisohio -> oops i’m bnack
21:33:59 matt montagne -> that is what podcasts are for! It was a nice show…the kids are really gaining experience and comfort
21:34:04 Cathy E -> mee too
21:34:09 PeggyG -> WOW is planning to return with a slightly new focus–social issues from a global perspective
21:34:13 Cathy E -> many nights I can’t UStream
21:34:22 Lorna -> support to shoutcast !!
21:35:30 PeggyG -> why would we want a private twitter?
21:35:43 stlouisohio -> are we just using ustream tonigt, was at dinner just got here
21:35:53 matt montagne -> spammers
21:36:00 JL -> ETT A is also on
21:36:17 sheila -> @Alexis – are you able to use ustream or do you use ETT A?
21:36:27 Lorna -> I have no idea what life would be like without Skype
21:36:31 PeggyG -> but we can search on twitter for #edtechtalk and get any conversation that mentions it–I like that
21:36:53 matt montagne -> we started using Yammer at our school, which is a private Twitte, and I really, really like it
21:37:12 sheila -> Still can’t connect with teacher in Belize because skype is banned in the country! Need other alternatives.
21:37:12 matt montagne -> I find that email is typically used for operations communications, and very little curricular
21:37:15 matt montagne -> Yammer=free
21:37:44 Cathy E -> somebody will invent something to replace Skype
21:37:45 dave -> @matt free as in no money.
21:38:15 matt montagne -> yammer is a great place to start…see if private microblogging will work for your org and if it does, then you can go full bore
21:38:21 matt montagne -> @dave Yup
21:38:23 stlouisohio -> skype will progress to something better
21:39:32 PeggyG -> I was wondering about the Lee Baber Jamboree
21:40:11 JoseRodriguez -> do you guys have the link for Dave’s post?
21:40:20 matt montagne -> hold up
21:40:39 Lorna -> I agree about students
21:40:49 PeggyG -> the Youth Voices show/Teachers Teaching Teachers has done a fantastic job with a focus on the students!
21:41:37 stlouisohio -> agree peggyg
21:41:38 PeggyG -> I liked Lisa Parisi’s ideas about sharing student/classroom based streams
21:42:22 sheila -> So where does Earthcast Echo fall if we get that going .. . should we be concerned about students . . . ?
21:42:34 Cathy E -> I really miss Making Connections – wish someone would take over the hosting
21:42:38 Lorna -> I would really like students to demonstrate to parents what technology in education is
21:42:46 Cathy E -> I really miss the learning part
21:42:52 PeggyG -> me too Cathy E!
21:42:58 sheila -> me too Cathy!
21:43:32 PeggyG -> Susan vg is planning to start a new show-maybe bi-monthly-featuring k12online presentations and conversations with the presenters.
21:43:46 sheila -> nice
21:44:05 Cathy E -> I want to work through the Google stuff with you guys
21:44:07 PeggyG -> Matt’s gatorradio show is a great model for getting the student voice out there!
21:45:09 stlouisohio -> what other shows would you suggest?
21:45:56 matt montagne -> moving from the master of the blog to the planner of the revolution
21:46:02 matt montagne -> *blob
21:46:10 Lorna -> muddle along
21:46:13 PeggyG -> I second it!
21:46:13 matt montagne -> I third that!
21:46:16 matt montagne -> See ya dave!
21:46:24 stlouisohio -> night
21:46:37 PeggyG -> bye Dave
21:47:26 stlouisohio -> lost audio
21:47:35 matt montagne -> hey liz
21:47:42 stlouisohio -> lost audio anyone else?
21:47:54 matt montagne -> I can hear it on ustream still stlouis
21:48:00 matt montagne -> are you listening in ustream
21:48:01 PeggyG -> I’m still hearing on ustream
21:48:21 Liz Kolb -> Hi Matt—better late than never lol
21:49:12 sheila -> Must be that free wifi!
21:49:15 PeggyG -> Hi Liz! It’s great to see you!
21:49:26 matt montagne -> I agree on the yeah jose comment!
21:49:37 PeggyG -> @Liz-I really missed your radio show over the summer!!
21:49:46 Lorna -> Skype is strangling JOse
21:49:56 JL -> http://www.worldbridges.net/domains
21:50:06 JoseRodriguez -> ok .. it was worth a try
21:50:12 JoseRodriguez -> seems to get me all the time
21:50:36 PeggyG -> that class with Rick Schwier was fantastic!!
21:51:34 JoseRodriguez -> great catching up with y’all
21:51:34 JoseRodriguez -> no worries…
21:51:52 Liz Kolb -> @Peggy–we started up again yesturday! Every two weeks–we have great guests lined up for the Fall—archives are always avaliable. Thanks for the compliment
21:51:54 sheila -> We did it through July . . . Need to start it up again.
21:51:56 PeggyG -> Susan vg is stealing Sheila’s brilliant idea for echoes with the K12online show 🙂
21:52:03 JL -> we got most of what you said Jose. Thx. Hope your heard our kudos to you.
21:52:25 PeggyG -> Thanks Liz! I had to miss last night but have it on my calendar!!
21:52:46 JoseRodriguez -> well lost audio.. but do appreciate all the love
21:52:50 sheila -> I need a lesson on the site too. Hard to know where to post.
21:53:41 PeggyG -> I like the idea of a template so there is some commonality when you move from site to site
21:53:55 Lorna -> I like the control of drupal
21:54:02 Lorna -> and the password protection
21:54:10 PeggyG -> drupal has a BIG learning curve
21:55:00 PeggyG -> the template would definitely reduce the learning curve with Drupal
21:55:15 sheila -> I like the look and feel for the earthbridges site. Just don’t want to post in the wrong area. I need to ask questions and Ihaven’t done it.
21:57:10 matt montagne -> @Sheila…my feeling exactly. I like it too, but it can feel a bit unfamiliar when trying to add content after not being in the space for a long time
21:57:19 PeggyG -> there still has to be a place to direct people too (the website) 🙂
21:57:22 sheila -> Just questions in general about how is EArthbridges organized. I think we need to chat about what’s expected.
21:57:41 Liz Kolb -> It is all about diversifying your organization/information (look at the White house—Youtube, FB, Twitter, MySpace, Nings, etc)
21:58:02 matt montagne -> agreed Sheila
21:58:15 PeggyG -> I agree Jeff!
21:58:39 Liz Kolb -> 😀
21:59:11 matt montagne -> hey, the Whitehouse site turned off commenting too!
21:59:22 matt montagne -> actually, I don’t think tghey ever had commenting on their blog
21:59:56 sheila -> I’m still new at all of this, but I love the learning and connecting . . .
22:00:17 Cathy E -> I like the simple – ness of ETT it is easy to send newbies to the page and they understand
22:01:57 PeggyG -> yes we definitely need to update the About page 🙂
22:02:06 sheila -> Should it be done before this weekend? ??
22:02:27 PeggyG -> it needs to be updated by the show hosts who can best describe their own shows
22:02:40 Lorna -> peggy is a good conscience
22:02:41 matt montagne -> how many hours of content to we have at ETT?? any idea JL?
22:02:44 sheila -> Agreed!
22:03:02 sheila -> a lot
22:03:32 Lorna -> really nice to hear ds voice
22:03:32 Cathy E -> I think getting the iTunes right is a biggie
22:03:45 PeggyG -> this has been a good conversation
22:03:58 sheila -> I’m up for it Matt!
22:04:15 PeggyG -> I’m a conscience?? That’s scary!
22:04:24 Cathy E -> Love you guys, but I have to go to bed *)
22:04:46 PeggyG -> be careful Cathy E–you may get volunteered for something!
22:05:59 PeggyG -> could you get people (teachers/students) to submit recorded audio or video that could be played during the earthcastathon?
22:06:05 matt montagne -> by Cathy!
22:06:13 PeggyG -> sometimes they just can’t participate live
22:06:17 matt montagne -> alright DS!!
22:06:25 sheila -> Like old times!
22:06:30 sheila -> 🙂
22:07:08 Lorna -> nite all
22:07:38 sheila -> I think resources to go with the recorded archives will help entice teachers to use it or start thinking more aobut it.
22:07:48 PeggyG -> there are so many youth groups/schools that are doing go green kinds of things–maybe a personal invitation (electronic) to them would bring them into the show for a 15 min segment to talk about their activities??
22:08:34 sheila -> Agreed DS (just typed that! Great minds . . .)
22:09:20 PeggyG -> couldn’t that kind of content be added to the existing site for Earthbridges?
22:09:30 PeggyG -> it is a wiki isn’t it?
22:09:33 JL -> absolutely
22:10:04 PeggyG -> teachers could easily add lesson plans and curriculum content to the wiki
22:10:21 matt montagne -> I’ve had a half baked idea about how to change schools….
22:10:40 matt montagne -> it is part of my frustration with having a hard time of pulling off gator radio
22:11:16 matt montagne -> perhaps, instead of 5 sections of a class with 25-30 kids, what if each teacher facilitated 25 projects with 5 students??
22:11:19 PeggyG -> are you talking about the Channel One content?
22:11:53 matt montagne -> the traditional model just doesn’t lend itself well to these kinds of projects
22:12:06 matt montagne -> LOL JL
22:12:16 PeggyG -> I agree that definitely happened at the last earthcast
22:14:06 PeggyG -> I can’t imagine managing that–it isn’t the number of students in the group but the management of so many projects!
22:14:54 PeggyG -> yes the Quest Atlantis project has great potential as a model because it is connected to curriculum
22:14:55 Liz Kolb -> Thanks Guys!!! Night
22:16:40 PeggyG -> that was my concern Matt–how do you manage all of that??
22:17:20 PeggyG -> that’s an interesting thought Jeff!!
22:18:15 PeggyG -> an assigned experienced "streamer" with space reserved for a particular school group
22:18:53 PeggyG -> audio is best for students–video presents other challenges with permissions
22:19:07 sheila -> true
22:22:07 PeggyG -> mobile phones are synchronous for the most part
22:22:50 PeggyG -> that’s Liz’s mission 🙂 enlightening us about the potential of cell phones
22:23:10 PeggyG -> that’s exciting Matt!
22:23:21 PeggyG -> Sam is a perfect choice for the panel!
22:23:55 PeggyG -> that was a great debate–myspace and facebook took front and center in the conversation
22:24:39 PeggyG -> I DO download the music she suggests!!
22:24:52 PeggyG -> and buy the movies recommended!!
22:25:50 PeggyG -> I would love to see more gatorradios out there!! I’m always mentioning it as a model 🙂
22:26:02 PeggyG -> I agree Jeff!!!!
22:28:48 PeggyG -> they have the ideas but maybe don’t know how to make them happen??
22:29:29 PeggyG -> that’s the key Jeff-hard to start from scratch
22:32:48 sheila -> Open house was tonight. Long day . . . ‘see’ you all this weekend!
22:33:01 PeggyG -> night Sheila! see you this weekend
22:35:53 PeggyG -> yes Matt-I think your students inspired some of the Youth Voices students about gatorradio and student broadcasting
22:39:29 PeggyG -> I think there’s a lot of interest in listening to webcasts/podcasts by administrators/for administrators but noone with time to host it
22:39:46 PeggyG -> that was a great conversation Monday night with Larry Ferlazzo
22:40:31 PeggyG -> fun conversation and brainstorming tonight! thanks all
Disabling comments, ETT Redesign, Service vs. Community, & other stuff
20:00:12 carolteach4 -> I finally downloaded Skype; do I call WorldBridges?
20:00:43 kcaise -> we caved and bought one too
20:00:55 carolteach4 -> Hi, Matt.
20:00:57 SR -> going over to the other side
20:00:59 carolteach4 -> Lots of static
20:01:17 matt montagne -> hey Carol
20:01:20 matt montagne -> and everyone else
20:02:07 Scott Shelhart -> The short blog post I made linking to a kindergarten science video is the #1 page accessed on my blog by far. http://shelhart.blogspot.com/2009/03/kindergarten-science-plants-mrs-poulin.html
20:05:23 tjmeister -> With reasonable hardware and net access on your end, I can open up an OpenSim Virtual world meeting place…
20:08:07 Jason R -> Raises hand
20:11:22 Jason R -> I agree
20:11:53 Scott Shelhart -> Too many comments will mike ETT feel like any of the other ning site. I like the live aspect of ETT. If I have a comment. I’ll show up real time or contact an individual directly.
20:14:47 kcaise -> jeff, i would be happy to help you and durrf approve/monitor the comments if you continue that option
20:15:02 Jason R -> Scott – agreed
20:15:38 Jason R -> Or just yell impotently at the car stereo when I am listening to Dave be wrong on my iPod
20:15:42 Jason R -> Kidding
20:15:44 Jason R -> 😀
20:17:08 Jason R -> I think Twitter has soaked up some of my commenting and posting habits
20:17:50 Jason R -> I now close comments on my blog after 30 days. Not that I get any anyway.
20:18:18 kcaise -> yes he is
20:18:27 Scott Shelhart -> Yes, Wes is using guests
20:22:31 guest478 -> http://magazine.openhabitat.org
20:22:34 kcaise -> pink is always a good color
20:23:14 Jason R -> fun
20:23:54 Jason R -> If you need changes, tweaks to what I made, let me know. Or if you want to go in a different direction that’s cool too
20:24:47 Jason R -> How much are the other shows depending on ETT technology?
20:25:00 2agujas -> -Puentes al Mundo: hola
20:26:42 matt montagne -> we’ve even managed to kick each other out of chat rooms 🙂
20:27:52 mjmontagne -> 😉
20:28:39 Lorna -> @Matt:)
20:30:25 mjmontagne -> wow
20:30:32 Jason R -> Obliquely apt – "I love it when people say they’ve found a flaw in RSS but it’s really a feature request for their feed reader." – Dave Winer
20:31:35 Jason R -> bake sales
20:31:56 Gary -> Virtual pies???
20:32:31 matt montagne -> Do all the baked goods need to be pre-packaged??
20:32:57 Lorna -> I like the calendar – no cooking allowed
20:36:11 Jason R -> What happens to ETT if one of yous drop out? Could it survive w/o Jeff or Dave or …
20:38:10 Gary -> Jeff and Dave need to be cloned – now!!
20:38:31 Gary -> Not that they are sheep but we need them to continue the community
20:39:34 Jason R -> Both how to teach in that world much less how to learn
20:42:30 Jason R -> Suppose it will survive rhizomatically and spawn different shrubs nearby but are different
20:43:37 kcaise -> nope, just lurking
20:44:58 Lorna -> eluminate is excellent but very public
20:45:32 Jason R -> ??? elluminate.com
20:45:58 Lorna -> sorry not clear
20:46:05 Lorna -> people can’t just listen
20:46:15 guest478 -> ah. yes.
20:46:17 Lorna -> and be a lurker
20:46:58 kcaise -> adobe connect is more prevalent in business communities for online meetings
20:47:21 Lorna -> ETT has a role and Elluminate has another role
20:48:18 Lorna -> yes pretty!!
20:48:27 [Action] Jason R -> fan of iTunes. Can helpish.
20:50:26 Jason R -> Done.
20:51:34 Jason R -> Fun
EdTechTalk Community Discussion
March 8, 2009
from the ETT Governance backchannel
How do we feel about ETT shows using Elluminate?
(plus some earnest Mac Chat)
Chat Log Below
19:41:06 matt montagne -> @JS…nope, our plans, if we use XP, are to only use the OS…OO 3.0 and most everything else would b open source…the goal is to get the software cost down to near zero
19:41:30 JS -> Then why not dump XP and go all OS?
19:41:53 sharonp -> @matt I love your vision!
19:42:08 matt montagne -> @js…because XP only saves about $25-$50…BUT, we’re still going to try to go Linux
19:42:19 matt montagne -> @sharonP…my goal is to sell these things in our school store
19:42:33 matt montagne -> no reason not to…they are cheaper than annual text book fees now
19:42:50 sharonp -> Offering choices is good, if we can make the options clear without bungling up someone’s download due to bandwidth issues
19:42:51 JS -> I think it’s a good opportunity — since it’s such a different device — to get Linux into the hands of real people in a worthwhile way.
19:43:03 littlejohnny -> I think limiting it to one format is why television is going to die … just because it starts with podcasts, doesn’t mean it has to die with podcasts.
19:43:21 sharonp -> @matt good thinking (with markup that benefits needy students!)
19:43:24 littlejohnny -> it depends on who is hosting
19:43:37 littlejohnny -> if you use Elluminate Publisher, you can move things out to other formats
19:43:38 Alvin Trusty -> We use Elluminate and I’ve been asking this question for several years… still no answer
19:43:50 littlejohnny -> however that costs more
19:43:58 matt montagne -> @JS…that is one of our motivational forces…Linux and community based software constuction is and will be a big part of the future…exposing kids to this world now has merit IMHO
19:44:08 sharonp -> not a question of content…. question of accessibility
19:44:21 littlejohnny -> you can peel out the .vcr files form the elluminate links, flash playable.
19:44:23 matt montagne -> @sharonP…I agree…accessibility…
19:44:40 sharonp -> we CANNOT lose sight of the fact that so many places in the world CANNOT access large file sizes… not their choice.. reality
19:45:13 JS -> I think you’re right Dave. Most people who listen to us do so on portable devices.
19:45:14 sharonp -> accessibility and portability
19:45:30 robdarrow -> Elluminate seems like it is only good if there are a bunch of visuals…
19:45:43 sharonp -> portability is a North American issue
19:45:48 matt montagne -> @sharon…if we can become a textbook free school (not a book free school) then I think we can almost hand these things out to students for free…
19:46:14 sharonp -> @matt.. I think you are a leader in your thinking
19:46:44 courosa -> elluminate is marketing it within education in large free events so that decision makers are exposed to the tool
19:46:50 sharonp -> We need schools like yours to point to so we can say to our admins – "See! Someone else is doing it… successfully!"
19:47:17 JS -> @Matt http://staff.bbhcsd.org/schinkerj/archives/2008/01/24/textbook-economics/
19:47:20 matt montagne -> @sharon…thanks for your feedback, it probably is way too far flung, but i think it can be done…
19:47:33 sharonp -> @courosa That has been my question… What is the business model (with elluminate in particular)?
19:47:36 courosa -> @dave: not always a ‘contract’, I’d be cautious with that
19:47:58 sharonp -> No such thing as a free lunch
19:48:27 sharonp -> I want to be very careful with this elluminate thing??
19:48:39 matt montagne -> @JS…one of my students is a junior has been using a kindle this year…she said she is near the break even point on her books right now (she uses it for her english novels and 1 textbook)
19:48:49 Alvin Trusty -> for a class of 20, Elluminate costs $13,000 for one year
19:48:51 courosa -> @sharonp exactly that, ‘free’ to large events to create greater exposure, but VERY expensive to universities and K12
19:49:01 krea_frobro747 -> VERY BIG JUMP…
19:49:21 krea_frobro747 -> ultimately, you can use illuminate… and even endorse a competitor… no big deal…
19:49:45 krea_frobro747 -> which product best fits your goal?
19:49:53 sharonp -> it is a cost benefit analysis thing – does Elluminate bring value for $$ in terms of learning benefits?
19:49:58 courosa -> @dave: that is why we (bloggers, tweeters, podcasters) needs to be transparent about their relationship with the product.
19:50:16 matt montagne -> @JS…EXCLENT post…I’m going to use that in our discussion wednesday on moving toward becoming a textbook free school….
19:50:39 matt montagne -> eluminate is crazy EXPENSIVE…WOW, 13K???
19:50:58 sharonp -> @matt I agree…. this is why I raise my objections
19:51:06 robdarrow -> Whether it costs $10,000 or $100, the principle of support still applies.
19:51:10 Ron h -> @sharonp – great point. Is the $$ worth it with the other alternatives out there to enable learning
19:51:12 courosa -> we are told not to discuss what it costs when you sign with elluminate, but seeing as I could be anyone, it costs about $17G for us, 30 users.
19:51:23 sharonp -> AND, there are alternatives to elluminate….. that are lower in bandwidth and FREE!!
19:51:50 krea_frobro747 -> I think that you are assuming that participators assume they have to use the same tool that you do…..
19:51:59 matt montagne -> kyle stevens was doing some cool review sessions with his students via dimdim
19:52:15 courosa -> @sharonp alternatives, with not all the features and stability … and I’ve tried them all. Hopefully better options soon.
19:52:18 JL -> skype ‘jefflebow’ to join in
19:52:23 matt montagne -> kudos to kyle for employing free syncronous learning environs to connect with his students
19:52:53 courosa -> elluminates does not export out well, it’s like putting a lot of stuff in Betamax.
19:53:03 Ron h -> How about Microsoft Comm Server for $2500 ish + you run the server on your districts bandwidth. That seems a bit more reasonable.
19:53:08 matt montagne -> I think that eluminate users should record the audio and save it as an mp3…this can b done
19:53:13 krea_frobro747 -> on the other hand, I came here today (first time) and thought… wow, wouldn’t this be better if they were using illuminate….
19:53:15 robdarrow -> @JenM – I agree, would not like to give up the portability!
19:53:16 krea_frobro747 -> Elluminate
19:53:19 ujdmc -> I would never sign off on a purchase order for a product that costs $500 per user when there is a free equivalent… or even lesser expensive alternative
19:53:32 courosa -> @matt: easy if you use the Elluminate Publisher tool, or you can always just hijack the audio.
19:53:47 sharonp -> It is about knowing the affordances of a tool, of what your specific learning goals are and what your resources are to achieving those goals…. in these times of economic cutbacks, I think we ALL need to examine WHAT we use, what our learing goals are, share the alternatives and also examine learning sciences to what THEY say to these tools in terms of learning gains….
19:53:51 kchichester -> @JM I agree. I listen in my car on the way to work. I’d miss the podcast.
19:54:02 matt montagne -> @alec…ahh, good point..
19:54:27 JS -> @ujdmc lots of people would though. Either they don’t know there’s a less expensive alternative, or they think that it’s better because it costs more.
19:54:30 courosa -> shady, but the norm with a lot of software dealers in education.
19:54:52 matt montagne -> it is sad, but I think school districts now with the bailout package might buy wimba and elunminate like products…they are going to have some money and they are going to need to spend it…
19:54:55 courosa -> non-disclosure agreements are common
19:55:07 ujdmc -> there is only one pot of money… a dollar spent in one place is a dollar foregone in another. Part of the value of tech is innovating and reducing cost while adding value
19:55:22 Ron h -> Another option – (free for education) Panopto – plus they are introducing a live classroom in a couple of months.
19:55:26 sharonp -> @matt and we need to be out there sharing best practices and offering alternatives
19:55:28 matt montagne -> also, let’s face it, these tools just aren’t going to b used that much…maybe by a teacher or two or three, but how can you justify that kinda cash???
19:55:30 courosa -> mp3, and other options.
19:55:49 matt montagne -> @sharonP…I totally, totally, totally agree…excellent point
19:55:50 robdarrow -> Right, the endorsement is what I was talking about…and I don’t think all Elluminate people suggest to not to tell people what it costs
19:56:07 ujdmc -> and districts that just toss away money because they don’t know better ultimately are doing a severe disservice to their students and communities
19:56:09 kchichester -> I don’t think that schools would use the stimulus package money to by Elluminate, we’ll use it to keep teachers employed.
19:56:10 sharonp -> aw c’mon more than just accessiblity!
19:56:22 courosa -> on the bright side of things: the free(er) tools are getting better.
19:56:24 gail -> What do they actually give you for the $$
19:56:26 Alvin Trusty -> @matt – the seats can be used by any teacher in the school. Two groups of ten, four groups of five, etc.
19:56:34 sharonp -> how do I skype in??
19:56:36 matt montagne -> @kch…u never know…some funds will b used for virtual learning opportunities
19:57:02 Alvin Trusty -> @gail – they integrate Elluminate into your LMS and archive all the classes.
19:57:17 matt montagne -> @alvin…I understand, but I don’t think many teachers will use it…
19:57:17 gail -> What is LMS?
19:57:33 matt montagne -> Wimba is expensive as well
19:57:34 Ron h -> LMS is a ‘learning management system’
19:57:39 courosa -> breeze is more expensive? it wasn’t for us.
19:57:41 matt montagne -> Adobe acrobat connect is another pricey one
19:57:57 robdarrow -> Anyone used DimDim?
19:57:57 gail -> give me a IWB first please!
19:58:03 ujdmc -> isn’t there value in having to work a bit to come up with the free alternative to elluminate or any other tool?
19:58:06 Alvin Trusty -> @matt – you have to have an online class to make it worth it
19:58:24 courosa -> i can come in for a few minutes … skype?
19:58:37 ujdmc -> doesn’t the user learn more about tech and about innovating by having to work a bit to create a solution?
19:59:01 matt montagne -> @alvin…agreed…but, I do think these kinds of tools could be great for virtual extenisions of traditional classrooms…
19:59:17 ujdmc -> anything Adobe is pricey and their support is atrocious
20:00:03 ujdmc -> I see Adobe as a company on the decline… even with the industry standard Photoshop
20:00:14 courosa -> not Saskatchewan … yet. 🙂
20:00:15 ujdmc -> not a recession any more… its now a depression
20:00:35 matt montagne -> bingo, sharon…
20:00:36 courosa -> @ujdmc … sad
20:00:39 matt montagne -> u r right on
20:00:43 matt montagne -> that is my concern too
20:01:07 ujdmc -> the united states has lost about 50% of its private equity in the last year
20:01:12 matt montagne -> sometimes people think that u need to spend big money for software if it is any good…
20:01:30 matt montagne -> the fact of the matter is that we can do eluminate types of things for low/no cost…
20:01:53 ujdmc -> grrrrrr. white boards
20:02:12 matt montagne -> it is bogus, too, when these companies talk about their integration with Learning Management Systems…all the "integration" means is that there is a link in moodle or blackboard or whatever
20:02:51 gail -> @courosa love the beaver on the border clip
20:02:59 matt montagne -> wimba still talks about how thier tool integrates with moodle…again, "integration" essentially means there is a link…
20:03:05 robdarrow -> Steve Hargadon with the Classroom 2.0 group has been effective with Elluminate – http://wiki.classroom20.com/LIVE+Conversations
20:03:24 sharonp -> @rob define "effective"?
20:03:24 sroseman -> great for presonal PD
20:04:22 robdarrow -> @sharonp – He has used the voting/polling parts of Elluminate, people putting where they are in the world, etc beyond just people asking questions.
20:05:36 sharonp -> And I want to be clear on this…. I like Steve .. I like Classroom 2.0… what you are describing as effective is instructor driven…. but in terms of accessibility and what business model they are using
20:07:15 sharonp -> @rob and I want to ask…. what has he done with elluminate that could not have been doen with FlashMeeting? Am familiar with both and can’t see that elluminate is that much superior for the difference in cost
20:07:24 robdarrow -> @sharonp – I guess I meant "effective" because it was more than just lecture and present. I would agree that I have not seen anyone do participant-to-participant involvement.
20:08:14 robdarrow -> @sharonp – I’m not familiar with Flash meeting, but I’ll check it out
20:08:15 sharonp -> And I do want to say that I am just delighted that we do have options!
20:08:21 ujdmc -> funny we just had this big discussion about "endorsing" eluminate and now we are talking about Macs
20:08:24 ujdmc -> and OS10
20:08:41 matt montagne -> there was an article out there that my colleague was talking about with me the other day…it essentially said that while the guts of OSes are different, essentially they are all the same as far as user experience goes
20:09:13 ujdmc -> not only are they over pricing themselves but they also do not work to help with enterprise use
20:09:13 matt montagne -> I totally agree that OSes are pretty much the same…I could care less about OS. I am OS nuetral I guess!!
20:09:15 JenM -> @ujdmc … tee hee
20:09:26 Gary -> Net-book alternative: iPhone?
20:09:31 sroseman -> a larger ipodtouch is to be released in the fall
20:09:37 sroseman -> larger screen
20:09:50 matt montagne -> apple is the only compnay in silicon valley that is making a profit right now (not totally true, but u get my drift)…
20:10:05 matt montagne -> they need to kill mobile me right now…pretty bad product
20:10:09 krea_frobro747 -> the last I heard on Mac/netbooks was several months back when Jobs said that they wouldn’t jump into the netbook market until they knew it would be sustained…
20:10:16 ujdmc -> lots of tech comapnies making good money
20:10:23 sharonp -> @matt due to their macbook sales, I think not? iPhone…. maybe?
20:10:33 krea_frobro747 -> I would love to replace my eeePC with a Mac netbook… but can only imagine what it would cost…
20:10:55 matt montagne -> the netbook growth is a classic example of disruptive innovation…it took a small, unkonwd PC company and a non-for profit to build the netbook market
20:10:56 JenM -> http://www.liliputing.com/2009/03/asus-launches-eee-pc-1008ha-ultra-thin-netbook.html
20:11:05 Gary -> Apple has always taken the view that they sell to those who want what they offer and are willing to pay.
20:11:17 ujdmc -> very pompous marketing
20:11:41 ujdmc -> i totally disagree that apple is a higher level tool
20:11:44 coolpoolteacher -> welcome Neil!!
20:11:47 coolpoolteacher -> 🙂
20:11:59 ujdmc -> YES… they market themselves as cool
20:12:06 Gary -> The high-end user may be the only ones that can afford to buy the high-end computer
20:12:25 matt montagne -> I’m big, big mac fan, but there are some OS things that I dislike…minimizing/maximizing windows for one…
20:12:38 Gary -> and Apple has enough money on hand to get through the next couple of years.
20:12:58 ujdmc -> I am a higher end user and although I love my wifes imac… I am a PC user… with 4 screens and I program, develop, share….
20:13:01 matt montagne -> @Gary…apple’s last quarter sales were still fantastic tho…
20:13:03 sroseman -> Laptops surpassed desktops in the US 3 years ago.
20:13:24 Gary -> I know – and use a Mac
20:13:29 sroseman -> http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/12/30/large-form-ipod-touch-to-launch-in-fall-09/
20:14:01 matt montagne -> their marketing is stunning…they lead you to think that they don’t "crash." They do crash!!!
20:14:05 ujdmc -> They MUST learn to live within the enterprise better to bust through that ceiling
20:14:21 Neil Stephenson -> yeah.. mine crashes.. about once a year
20:14:33 ujdmc -> ask General Motors how long that cash lasts when you get pompous and believe you don’t have to change
20:14:34 coolpoolteacher -> beach ball of death…
20:15:04 matt montagne -> @neil…u r lucky…I work with them all day long and they crash as much as the windows computers I used to work with…
20:15:09 coolpoolteacher -> my mac pro crashes each time I try to use ustream…
20:15:12 matt montagne -> again, I’m an OS neutral dude…
20:15:26 Neil Stephenson -> ive given so many presentations to teachers who can’t produce the same types of llearning environments because the PC platfrom is so much harder for multimedia products
20:15:28 coolpoolteacher -> but I sill love them
20:15:42 ujdmc -> Yeah, you guys really are a bit short sighted on network management
20:16:03 matt montagne -> @neil…great things can b done right thru the web…so who cares what computer u have??
20:16:16 sharonp -> I think Jeff was gettng glassy-eyed in our discusson of mac and apple products
20:16:16 ujdmc -> but I REALLY do love my wifes iMac
20:16:17 matt montagne -> nite y’all
20:16:21 matt montagne -> that was fun!!!
20:16:25 matt montagne -> good stuff
20:16:38 sarah h -> Thanks, I enjoyed it!
20:16:43 sroseman -> I agree with matt .. everythin I do is web based
20:16:47 coolpoolteacher -> l8er!
20:16:54 matt montagne -> JS just shows up and hits home run!!!
20:16:58 Neil Stephenson -> @matt… i agreee. there’s some great webtools.. but you can’t get the same level of product with online tools
20:17:00 Gary -> Thanks agai.
20:17:05 Gary -> n
20:17:06 matt montagne -> then just does casual stroll around the bases!!!
20:17:07 sarah h -> @matt–thx for the pic today re-compost
20:17:15 ujdmc -> you can now get your OS via a web page that looks like your desktop
20:17:28 matt montagne -> @sarah…thanks, u helped me think of my picture of the day!!!
20:17:41 sarah h -> I’ll tweet you a ?
20:17:43 matt montagne -> @uj…exactly!!!
20:17:45 ernie easter -> Thanks for a great talk for an advid Mac user
20:19:30 sroseman -> @ ujdmac ..can you ellucidate on that point …you can now get your OS via a web page that looks like your desktop
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19:56:24 PeggyG -> Hi all-loving the tune! 🙂
19:56:55 JohnS -> Hi, Peggy. Thanks for joining us
19:57:12 PeggyG -> Always look forward to the conversation!
19:58:27 PeggyG -> Stream dropped-are you working on something?
19:58:49 PeggyG -> Hi Alice
20:00:02 JohnS -> If anyone wants to join the conversation, skype "worldbridges"
20:00:12 JohnS -> Jeff is working on getting the stream up — should be momentarily.
20:00:40 PeggyG -> Headset not connected. Will be typing 🙂
20:01:31 AliceMercer -> I’m still listenint to ETW from NECC, lol
20:01:48 PeggyG -> Me too 🙂
20:02:25 PeggyG -> Right now I’m listening to the short convener video for the K12 online conference. Any of you submit a proposal?
20:02:53 dougsymington -> hear audio on stream
20:02:55 AliceMercer -> I don’t have anything in mind, and Don’t think I can get it together that quick
20:03:03 dougsymington -> JS was wonky @ 1st, but better now
20:03:17 PeggyG -> Yes July 11 is just around the corner 🙂 Lots of exciting new keynotes this year
20:03:19 AliceMercer -> Is this about the community forum?
20:03:20 dougsymington -> have ustream too
20:03:22 JenW -> I am still at work — but listening
20:03:23 dougsymington -> recursion
20:03:28 JenW -> will be with you in about 5 minutes
20:03:39 dougsymington -> don’t know re k12
20:03:39 AliceMercer -> Hey, I’ll help someone who has a proposal, lol
20:03:41 PeggyG -> audio coming through great now
20:03:42 JohnS -> First order of business is to finalize this: https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:03:47 AliceMercer -> What’s teh topic tonight?
20:03:54 PeggyG -> The Maine group is a keynote 🙂
20:04:01 AliceMercer -> Hmm, I’ll listen for a while first
20:04:43 AliceMercer -> Has Dave agreed to clean up potty mouth?
20:04:44 PeggyG -> Bob Sprankle, Alice Barr and Cheryl Oakes are keynoting one strand 🙂
20:05:02 Cathy E -> I got my tee shirts today
20:05:08 Cathy E -> Doug it is you
20:05:26 PeggyG -> @Cathy E–what Tshirts?
20:05:41 JL -> http://www.cafepress.com/edtechtalk
20:05:48 Cathy E -> http://www.cafepress.com/edtechtalk
20:06:04 PeggyG -> Oh-the wordle tshirt for ETT–Love it!
20:06:15 AliceMercer -> Dave will work on potty mouth, that’s his assignment.
20:06:31 PeggyG -> How many words do you want in your mission?
20:06:32 AliceMercer -> Well, that Pearson thing is a lesson, no?
20:07:03 mrsdurff -> did i sign a permission slip?
20:07:04 PeggyG -> WOW-that’s a long mission statement 🙂
20:07:32 mrsdurff -> hi lorna
20:07:45 lorna -> Hello all
20:08:25 mrsdurff -> to provide a platform for a community of learners centered around webcasting
20:08:33 PeggyG -> forum to connect for educational technology?
20:08:38 AliceMercer -> KISS!
20:08:48 mrsdurff -> Kiss?
20:09:05 mrsdurff -> aw!
20:09:19 AliceMercer -> This is a collective for connecting and collaborating about issues and information about educational technology
20:09:25 PeggyG -> space to connect and collaborate…like that
20:09:28 JenW -> I don’t have a headset — sorry
20:09:38 AliceMercer -> Dave is working on his mission, lol
20:09:44 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:09:48 mrsdurff -> ty
20:10:02 PeggyG -> Hi Jen-great to see you
20:10:19 mrsdurff -> i don’t think we want to avoid it
20:10:32 mrsdurff -> at least not the concept
20:10:52 JL -> In situations where profanity, sexual content, or descriptions of graphic violence are used, those uses should be clearly noted at the beginning of the archived media, and parents should be advised to use discretion when exposing minors to such content. In cases where such content is frequently used on a particular show, the show’s introduction should note this fact.
20:11:22 AliceMercer -> YEP! That’s what NPR does.
20:11:26 lorna -> Sounds good
20:11:29 AliceMercer -> Me like
20:11:33 mrsdurff -> so that means edtechtalk allows such contend?
20:11:55 PeggyG -> should that even be an issue for ETT?
20:12:02 lorna -> Yes that what it means to me
20:12:05 AliceMercer -> So If Dave has potty mouth, those of us who appreciate his ribald sense of humor and earthy langauge can listen, and those who don’t won’t
20:12:13 lorna -> right
20:12:33 AliceMercer -> Or, if there is a show about say kids discussing their dating life?
20:12:40 mrsdurff -> i think we need to seek to welcome a wide audience
20:12:40 PeggyG -> etiquette is different than bad language
20:12:45 AliceMercer -> And it’s teens, and you might want to let elementary folks know?
20:12:57 mrsdurff -> true peggy
20:12:58 AliceMercer -> And if Mrs. Durff is happy, we’re all happy!
20:13:11 mrsdurff -> oh you are so funny
20:13:15 JohnS -> Some EdTechTalk shows are tied so closely to the EdTechTalk community, either in name or in identity, that they should not be controlled by a single content producer. Rather, they are owned by the community and overseen by the producer, in conjunction with the show hosts. These arrangements are made between the EdTechTalk Governing Board and the producer.
20:13:47 mrsdurff -> uh?
20:13:59 mrsdurff -> john explain
20:14:02 JL -> In situations where profanity, sexual content, or descriptions of graphic violence are used, those uses should be clearly noted at the beginning of the archived media, and parents should be advised to use discretion when exposing minors to such content. In cases where such content is frequently used on a particular show, the show’s introduction should note this fact.
20:14:30 dave -> edtechtalking?
20:14:33 PeggyG -> it helps to have really clear descriptions of each show so people know what they are tuning in for
20:14:38 dave -> edhtechtalk
20:14:40 mrsdurff -> that covers archived shows but not love shows
20:14:49 mrsdurff -> live
20:15:45 PeggyG -> Yes, a statement of "purpose" for each show
20:15:52 paulrwood -> Why might I be hearing 2 audio’s? What have I done wrong?
20:16:07 mrsdurff -> that is not the issue peggy
20:16:24 JenW -> Hey Peggy — sorry, missed your hi. I am helping a staff member — sojust listening.
20:16:45 PeggyG -> It’s an issue for me-each show has a different focus or purpose and it helps to know what that is.
20:16:46 JohnS -> paul — getting both ustream and shoutcast?
20:16:51 JenW -> smiles — can I add the disclaimer — that the showhost tends to ramble unintelligently 🙂
20:16:54 JohnS -> Or maybe two windows open?
20:17:10 mrsdurff -> what words should be said?
20:17:21 paulrwood -> Got it fixed. Had Itunes open as well as show window
20:17:33 JenW -> so the disclaimer is a safety and not a censor??
20:17:42 PeggyG -> I’m referring to the description for each channel–not the mission statement.
20:17:44 lorna -> Sorry it just sound like over kill on language
20:18:00 paulrwood -> Thanks @JohnS
20:18:00 JenW -> Bear?? Baby??
20:18:05 mrsdurff -> hi leroy
20:18:11 dave -> is bitch a bad word?
20:18:19 mrsdurff -> yes dave
20:18:25 dave -> to whom?
20:18:29 dave -> and for what reason?
20:18:30 mrsdurff -> leroy
20:18:44 JohnS -> The chat says it’s a bad word.
20:18:47 JenW -> perhaps not a bad word — but not the best choice of words
20:19:01 dave -> what about poop?
20:19:08 dougsymington -> here we go
20:19:10 mrsdurff -> so…what if oscar said that to dave or bonnie?
20:19:15 lorna -> Personally I think that the best censor is the listener
20:19:32 lorna -> they can turn off the show at any time
20:19:33 JenW -> I would always error on caution — but that is me
20:19:43 dave -> @mrsdurff slightly different family here… if he did, it wouldn’t be that big a deal. we’d talk about it and explain to him when it’s appropriate if ever
20:19:53 PeggyG -> I agree with you JenW
20:19:56 dave -> that or he learns to say it from someone else
20:20:02 gary -> Fiters in schools block you anyways – depends on who is in charge
20:20:15 mrsdurff -> and he will if not from you dave
20:20:18 JenW -> I was surprised you could type the B word — and that it was not filtered in this chat room
20:20:31 dave -> i’m an administrator 🙂
20:20:38 JenW -> But I don’t think someone should take advantage of the disclaimer
20:21:05 mrsdurff -> shall we all sign first alice?
20:21:13 JenW -> but again — I tend to go towards being conservative
20:21:15 JohnS -> EdTechTalk members are responsible for the content of their own contributions to the community and its shows. Any expressed opinions, viewpoints, endorsements, or recommendations are solely those of the contributor. EdTechTalk does not assume any liability for content produced by its members.
20:21:28 JenW -> Ohhh — I like that
20:21:31 dougsymington -> liked that addition JS
20:21:38 AliceMercer -> That’s good!
20:21:50 dougsymington -> that’s what it has to be
20:22:00 dougsymington -> without a 7 sec delay
20:22:02 PeggyG -> Great language
20:22:09 paulrwood -> If you don’t like what is on the channel vote with your feet or your mouse or your clicker.
20:22:15 JenW -> ustream??
20:22:18 mrsdurff -> that is a good paragraph john
20:22:24 JenW -> do we endorse ustream??
20:22:33 JenW -> It is now the Revolutionary Document
20:22:37 mrsdurff -> value statements?
20:22:54 JenW -> TOS
20:23:07 AliceMercer -> We provide a service, and a platform
20:23:07 JohnS -> revolutionary?
20:23:15 JenW -> TOS is the commonly known phrase
20:23:20 AliceMercer -> That sounded interesting?
20:23:20 JenW -> seen on many sites
20:23:21 mrsdurff -> @paul you are an adult – i was thinking of minors
20:23:51 paulrwood -> Well where are the parental units in this?
20:23:58 AliceMercer -> Manifesto?
20:24:01 JenW -> and then it will be the 1812 Document
20:24:08 mrsdurff -> sometimes not
20:24:19 JenW -> 10th anniversary –??
20:24:23 mrsdurff -> there is one?
20:24:28 paulrwood -> So any idea how many non-adults tune in?
20:24:35 JenW -> you said 10th anniversary??
20:24:49 JenW -> FOR THE WORLD BRIDGES LOGO —-
20:25:03 JenW -> I have a bridge with skylines from world known buildings — will that work??
20:25:40 JL -> I think WB will have a variety of logos
20:25:41 PeggyG -> Good question–was wondering about the difference between Worldbridges and ETT
20:25:42 mrsdurff -> and we agree with lorna
20:25:54 lorna -> missing" to benefit students
20:25:55 JenW -> okay — I will send you the ideas when I get home for the link logo
20:26:18 mrsdurff -> a community
20:26:27 PeggyG -> do you have a google doc you are using to work on the mission statement?
20:26:28 mrsdurff -> for webcasting
20:27:06 PeggyG -> online forum?
20:27:11 mrsdurff -> what to say?
20:27:11 JohnS -> https://edtechtalk.net/mission
20:27:18 Cathy E -> vehicle to enhance collaborative technologies
20:27:19 AliceMercer -> onilne community?
20:27:22 JenW -> I like online community
20:27:29 mrsdurff -> oo yes cathy
20:27:59 JenW -> a facility for the online community
20:28:12 PeggyG -> like that Lorna–only unclear part for me is "Worldbridges community"
20:28:17 JenW -> a virtual platform??
20:28:19 AliceMercer -> Hi JW!
20:28:22 mrsdurff -> platform to enhance collaborative technologies
20:28:23 JenW -> Hi Alice
20:28:29 lorna -> I’m still stuck on edtechtalk as a place for worldbridges
20:28:35 mrsdurff -> hi jose
20:28:36 gary -> A venue?
20:28:41 JenW -> portal
20:28:53 JenW -> provide a venue
20:28:54 JoseRodriguez -> Hey Folks catching some wifi by the pool.
20:29:04 JenW -> provide opportunities!!
20:29:08 mrsdurff -> to enhance collaborative technologies
20:29:12 PeggyG -> Hi Jose-what a great way to tune in 🙂
20:29:39 PeggyG -> instead of people how about ed tech enthusiasts?
20:29:42 JenW -> I like Goolge Docs
20:29:50 PeggyG -> google docs
20:29:52 JenW -> but I like wiki’s too
20:29:59 mrsdurff -> Google Docs
20:30:05 PeggyG -> can only edit one at a time on Wikis
20:30:37 PeggyG -> Bud Hunt’s message was great
20:30:44 AliceMercer -> Google docs is now limiting to 10?
20:30:55 JenW -> really??
20:30:59 JenW -> why?
20:31:11 JohnS -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide a place for people to gather and interact online for learning and continued professional development.
20:31:11 mrsdurff -> enhance
20:31:13 JenW -> what about ZoHo??
20:31:22 mrsdurff -> for
20:31:25 JenW -> provide opportunities for people to gather……..
20:31:33 mrsdurff -> collaborative technologies
20:31:39 JenW -> don’t like the limit of "PLACE"
20:31:50 JenW -> you offer more than a place
20:32:08 JenW -> you offer training, listening, sharing, etc — it is opportunities
20:32:33 PeggyG -> promote innovative uses of technology to support educational change
20:33:02 lorna -> support education – make it general
20:33:15 PeggyG -> yes, I like that
20:33:20 JenW -> smiles — I like Peggy — but I will stick with opportunities
20:33:26 paulrwood -> wouldn’t it also support life long learning
20:33:35 JenW -> I don’t like long sentences 🙂
20:33:54 mrsdurff -> support a community of learners
20:34:07 JenW -> a mission statement can have 3 sentences
20:34:08 JenW -> I was told
20:34:13 mrsdurff -> you should have five sentences
20:34:19 mrsdurff -> in a paragraph
20:34:19 JenW -> but preferably just 1
20:34:21 PeggyG -> educators and learners is good
20:34:24 paulrwood -> Short sweet and to the point
20:34:31 gary -> @JenW – agree venue implies a place to come
20:34:40 mrsdurff -> i’m not an educator – i’m a learner
20:34:42 JohnS -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide a place for people to gather and interact online to promote innovative uses of technology to support lifelong learning.
20:34:44 PeggyG -> missions can have several paragraphs (according to the experts) 🙂
20:34:46 JenW -> you should be able to state everything in under 50 words
20:34:46 JL -> if anyone wants to chime in, skype ‘worldbridges’ or call 1-603-574-4923
20:34:57 PeggyG -> Vision is usually very brief
20:35:05 JenW -> 🙂
20:35:06 JenW -> sorry
20:35:14 JenW -> I type much more hard than I talk
20:35:27 JenW -> I should just be quiet 🙂
20:35:37 JenW -> yes, opportunites — that is MY idea 🙂
20:35:41 mrsdurff -> provide opportunities for people to gather.
20:36:12 JoseRodriguez -> Place not necessary
20:36:17 JenW -> I can call — but I don’t have headphones — and that would mess everything right??
20:36:20 PeggyG -> I think the focus is educational technology and life long learner is very broad
20:36:29 mrsdurff -> platform to enhance collaborative technologies
20:36:47 PeggyG -> I really like enhance collaborative technologies
20:36:51 paulrwood -> innovation implies cutting edge to me.
20:36:54 JenW -> dont’ like innovation either — in this case — we are average learners doing average things usually with once in a while greatness 🙂
20:37:13 mrsdurff -> it is conveyed through tech lorna
20:37:23 JoseRodriguez -> what’s innovative to other’s may be everyday to us.
20:37:25 PeggyG -> innovative use may be different for me than for others
20:37:34 JenW -> do I have to be a lifelong learner??? 🙂
20:37:43 JenW -> what if I want some time off ?
20:37:43 mrsdurff -> yes you do
20:37:49 mrsdurff -> i deem it so
20:37:55 mrsdurff -> tough
20:37:56 Cathy E -> You can’t have any time off
20:38:00 mrsdurff -> no time off
20:38:04 JoseRodriguez -> lifelong is more of a chliche
20:38:06 JenW -> he said I was bossy?? LOL —
20:38:18 PeggyG -> I’m not thrilled with including life long learning
20:38:38 PeggyG -> ongoing professional development?
20:38:40 mrsdurff -> music
20:38:43 JenW -> I think we want to stay away from the BUZZWORDS
20:38:48 JenW -> just to sound TECHIE
20:38:51 mrsdurff -> bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
20:38:55 JoseRodriguez -> ongoing is good
20:38:58 JenW -> go back to simplicity — but specific
20:39:12 JenW -> Filter, Foster, and Fertilize
20:39:16 AliceMercer -> I need to eat
20:39:25 JenW -> no BUZZWORDS
20:39:35 mrsdurff -> that buzz was for jen
20:39:44 paulrwood -> Don’t know if that has enough current buzzwords. How will we ever play bizz word bingo?
20:39:51 JenW -> post the sentence again please
20:40:02 JohnS -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather and interact to support lifelong learning.
20:40:15 Cathy E -> John – put in your 4 things
20:40:33 mrsdurff -> around instead of support learnin
20:41:16 JohnS -> 21st century skills? nah.
20:41:37 mrsdurff -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather & interact around learning
20:41:38 JenW -> don’t like gather
20:41:43 PeggyG -> new things are not necessarily sustainable but they are still valuable to try and explore
20:41:50 JenW -> what is another way to say gather??
20:41:55 JohnS -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to gather and interact to promote innovative ans sustainable uses of technology to support lifelong learning.
20:42:00 mrsdurff -> group together?
20:42:21 JenW -> why gahter??
20:42:25 mrsdurff -> well pooh
20:42:37 mrsdurff -> then put webcasting back in
20:42:37 JenW -> provide opportuhities for people to interact together??
20:42:42 JenW -> would that cover gathering??
20:42:55 PeggyG -> it’s only available online to gather….
20:43:24 paulrwood -> In the end what do you want EdTechTalk to be?
20:43:29 JohnS -> The mission of edtechtalk is to develop the mission of edtechtalk.
20:43:33 PeggyG -> sharing and collaborating
20:43:55 JenW -> I think we want the Mission Of EDTechTalk to be a opportunity for learners to come together and share ideas, visions, and hopes.
20:44:00 gary -> gather = converge?
20:44:02 mrsdurff -> ordinary people doing extraordinary things with the tools of technology
20:44:05 JenW -> in a variety of technological ways. 🙂
20:44:20 paulrwood -> Then form it around those things
20:44:39 mrsdurff -> connect the dots?
20:44:45 JenW -> The Mission of EEE is to provide opportunities for learners to come connect by sharing ideas, visions, hopes, and collaborate using a variety of online tools.
20:44:50 JenW -> EEE — ETT
20:45:07 JohnS -> The mission of EdTechTalk is to provide opportunities for people to connect and collaborate to promote innovative and sustainable uses of technology to support lifelong learning.
20:45:25 JenW -> The Mission of ETT is to provide opportunities for learners to connect by sharing ideas, visions, hopes, and to be able to collaborate.
20:45:49 mrsdurff -> we did thanks doug
20:45:50 JenW -> smiles — I cannot promise always innovative and sustainable uses
20:45:57 JenW -> sometimes we just talk
20:46:12 dougsymington -> 🙂
20:46:12 JenW -> yep
20:46:25 mrsdurff -> we’re doing a mission statement activity
20:46:28 PeggyG -> big highlight of ETT shows is itroduction of new tools
20:46:29 JenW -> It took our school 3 weeks to write a mission statement
20:46:33 JenW -> that everyone agreed on
20:46:44 gary -> A group I am belong to took a whole weekend plus….
20:46:46 JenW -> Mission Statement Part 1
20:46:54 paulrwood -> http://www.businessplans.org/mission.html
20:47:00 JenW -> OHHH —- voting on mission statements
20:47:03 JenW -> use a google form
20:47:38 JenW -> The vision of ETT is to provide ongoing opportunities for educators ……..
20:47:41 JenW -> you fill in the rest
20:47:43 PeggyG -> @paulrwood-that’s a great resource-we used that to help us write a mission statement for College of Teacher Education & Leadership at ASUWest.
20:49:15 JenW -> ETT — The Final Frontier?? 🙂
20:49:28 mrsdurff -> there you go jen
20:49:36 JenW -> The Future Frontier??
20:49:52 mrsdurff -> a two tiered approach
20:50:03 mrsdurff -> a governing board above all
20:50:07 JenW -> I liked the idea of everyone who hosts a show is PART of the governing board — after they have had a show for 2 months
20:50:19 mrsdurff -> and an operating board below that
20:50:42 JenW -> I think the governing board has to prove that they are more than a 2 show limit
20:50:59 JenW -> sorry — ongoing show for 2 months
20:51:13 PeggyG -> How do you share a google doc so it’s open to everyone and not just invited people?
20:51:17 mrsdurff -> so talk about how many and what makes a quorum
20:51:18 AliceMercer -> did i miss license discussion?
20:52:00 JenW -> the board of directors and then the associates??
20:52:12 mrsdurff -> why not governing board meets quarterly
20:52:13 gary -> Decide your quorum first and that will determine your board size
20:52:26 mrsdurff -> operating council meets bimonthly
20:52:29 PeggyG -> executive board plus governance committee?
20:52:37 mrsdurff -> yeah
20:53:11 mrsdurff -> 7 is a quorum?
20:53:13 JenW -> okay — but who is choosing the board — and if they disagree with who chose them, can they then be kicked off??
20:53:31 JenW -> or is there a 2 year term??
20:53:38 JenW -> 1 year term??
20:53:41 mrsdurff -> a larger quorum than 3
20:53:45 PeggyG -> executive board could make decisions on own or in consultation with governance committee or membership at large, depending on the decision
20:53:48 gary -> What is the minium number to make a decision?
20:54:02 JenW -> I think 7 shows a good representation
20:54:09 mrsdurff -> founders should be on for life
20:54:09 dougsymington -> quorum of 3
20:54:11 JenW -> we already have 3 members right now
20:54:13 JenW -> right??
20:54:19 mrsdurff -> that’s you JL
20:54:20 dougsymington -> I think we were just saying
20:54:20 JenW -> John Doug Dave
20:54:24 mrsdurff -> and doug
20:54:25 PeggyG -> elected by membership based on eligibility–spell out criteria for eligibility
20:54:26 JenW -> Jeff — would make it 4
20:54:27 mrsdurff -> and dave
20:54:36 mrsdurff -> the price of fame
20:54:37 JenW -> so we are already at 4
20:54:47 JenW -> or who will be Bill Gates of ETT
20:54:54 mrsdurff -> i nominate JL
20:54:55 AliceMercer -> Jeff, have a short tour?
20:54:57 PeggyG -> diversity of perspective is really valuable
20:54:59 mrsdurff -> second?
20:55:12 JenW -> All in favor of JL — say AYE
20:55:13 AliceMercer -> I understand, but you should be transitional
20:55:16 mrsdurff -> aye
20:55:25 paulrwood -> Who are on the lsit of show personalities/
20:55:31 AliceMercer -> I’m not in favor of JL being on forever, but I understand.
20:55:31 JenW -> hmmm — I vote — does not look good
20:55:33 PeggyG -> really liked that point made by James Surowiecki about better decisions made by diverse groups
20:55:34 lorna -> Jeff has a very good point
20:55:44 JenW -> I like 1 person from each show
20:55:58 JenW -> it is safe — representative — and non biased
20:56:00 AliceMercer -> I was transitional president of a non-profit so my husband could leave it.
20:56:01 JenW -> and diversity
20:56:32 mrsdurff -> step in when they have to
20:56:34 lorna -> separation
20:56:40 JenW -> QUESTION??
20:56:56 JenW -> are you not happy with how it is being RUN now……..I am quite content with you guys and the decisions you have made
20:57:27 JenW -> I trust you — and your choices — and roll with your punches —
20:57:31 mrsdurff -> hi leroy
20:57:54 JohnS -> But Jeff’s largely the boss now. And he doesn’t want to be the boss.
20:58:08 JenW -> maybe the people here tonight — should be on the council because we are here tonight — which shows we care
20:58:09 mrsdurff -> he is good at it
20:58:46 JenW -> I think we are taking this very seriously —
20:58:46 mrsdurff -> i don’t think i am qualified to decide anything
20:59:10 PeggyG -> I think it’s good to move away from "voting"-doesn’t provide best decisions sometimes
20:59:11 mrsdurff -> what is a life?
20:59:13 JenW -> but that is the first time Jeff has said what he just said
20:59:19 JenW -> about wanting to do something else
20:59:24 dougsymington -> not really the first time
20:59:26 JenW -> (well the first time I have heard it)
20:59:27 mrsdurff -> no it isn’t\
20:59:33 JenW -> I disclaimed it
20:59:36 dougsymington -> he’s had those 300 domains for a while now
20:59:38 JenW -> That I heard it
20:59:39 mrsdurff -> oh
21:00:02 JenW -> but that totally changes my thought pattern
21:00:11 JenW -> a puzzle piece just fit
21:00:21 mrsdurff -> at least he will be out of the basement
21:00:35 PeggyG -> an organization needs to be sustainable regardless of the specific people who are involved–to address people moving on to other things
21:01:00 JenW -> yes, but I didn’t realize that one of the people might be moving on — and is perhaps sharing the mantle
21:02:05 mrsdurff -> there IS magic
21:02:19 JenW -> I think you underplay it — I have no clue what you do
21:02:40 mrsdurff -> potatoes are rhizomes
21:02:44 PeggyG -> That’s why a clear mission, vision statement is so important so the community continues with clear focus regardless of the specific people contributing.
21:02:47 JenW -> I am just amazed at all the things that work just on the CHAT page
21:03:27 JenW -> why??
21:03:58 mrsdurff -> john will be ready
21:04:20 mrsdurff -> like nike – just do it
21:04:35 mrsdurff -> i will get you for that john
21:04:42 PeggyG -> Don’t vote–survey preferences but leaders should make the decision
21:04:43 Cathy E -> night all
21:04:46 JenW -> thanks Doug for your voice thread on Vicki’s wiki
21:04:50 mrsdurff -> nite ye all
21:04:50 dougsymington -> thanks all
21:04:53 dougsymington -> pleasure
21:05:01 JenW -> it was cool to see all the entries
21:05:04 lorna -> nite everyone
21:05:15 PeggyG -> please post the chat 🙂
21:05:22 JenW -> so is this still live??
21:05:28 PeggyG -> Good night all 🙂
21:05:31 JenW -> night Peggy
21:05:33 paulrwood -> YEP
21:05:36 PeggyG -> Yes, governance board first.
21:05:36 JenW -> see you tomorrow night??
21:05:54 mrsdurff -> what defines a retired member?
21:05:56 JenW -> 1 year term
21:05:59 PeggyG -> Yes Jen I’ll definitely be there!
21:06:04 JenW -> thanks Peggy
21:06:11 JenW -> I just hope VD will be there……….. 🙂
21:06:17 JenW -> she seems to be pretty busy in St Louis
21:06:21 PeggyG -> stagger the terms
21:06:28 mrsdurff -> staggering is good
21:06:34 PeggyG -> you don’t want everyone going off at the same time
21:06:36 dougsymington -> I’m going to miss tomorrow night, sorry to say
21:06:38 JenW -> Elections in July and December
21:06:40 mrsdurff -> some start with 3 year terms
21:06:45 dougsymington -> playing in a golf tourney
21:06:47 JenW -> overlapping
21:06:50 JenW -> Doug — you golf??
21:06:50 mrsdurff -> some with 2 year terms
21:06:57 PeggyG -> need the continuity of staggered terms
21:07:03 mrsdurff -> some with 1 year terms
21:07:08 dougsymington -> "every change I get" 🙂
21:07:13 JenW -> I putt
21:07:13 dougsymington -> chance
21:07:23 mrsdurff -> break a leg doug
21:07:28 dougsymington -> thx
21:07:42 JenW -> thanks for the conversation
21:07:46 PeggyG -> one criteria for gov. board eligibility might be having served on the larger council for at least a year
21:08:00 JohnS -> but then it would take a year to get the board.
21:08:06 JenW -> but I still think they need to have been a member of ETT — by having a show — for 2 months at least
21:08:14 JenW -> before being able to be voted in
21:08:24 PeggyG -> ture-but you could make startup an exception to the policy
21:08:25 mrsdurff -> bye
21:08:30 PeggyG -> ture 🙂
21:08:35 JenW -> I like ture
21:08:37 PeggyG -> true 🙂
21:08:37 JenW -> 🙂
21:08:44 JenW -> night guys
21:08:46 JenW -> heading home
21:09:08 PeggyG -> You’ve got it covered. 🙂
21:09:20 PeggyG -> Good night-great conversation!
20:02:56 JenniferWagner -> it is black for me too
20:03:00 JenniferWagner -> but I can hear just fine
20:03:21 JenMad -> sounds great!
20:03:22 JenniferWagner -> and I will call later — when you want my additional ideas 🙂
20:03:26 Rabbit -> I can hear.
20:04:18 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:04:19 JohnS -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:04:29 JenniferWagner -> is this node private or public??
20:04:33 JenMad -> @ds … hi!
20:04:57 JenniferWagner -> can I put it in my delicious— is what I am asking??
20:05:09 JL -> sure jen
20:05:45 JenMad -> @john … "we" have been working on TOS? Speak for yourself 🙂
20:05:53 JenniferWagner -> Jen Wagner -0- So California
20:06:27 JenMad -> Columbus document … you guys kill me 🙂
20:06:54 JohnS -> You’ll remember the node number, now.
20:07:15 JenniferWagner -> wonder what the 1812 node will be like —
20:07:19 JenniferWagner -> or the 1776
20:07:27 JohnS -> lots of cannons.
20:08:26 Lorna -> me I said something?
20:08:32 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/mission
20:09:14 Lorna -> gves me warm fuzzies
20:09:17 JenniferWagner -> QUESTION
20:10:21 JenniferWagner -> is EdTechTalk totally synonomous to World Bridges — are they one and the same?? or are they different
20:10:31 JL -> document being discussed: https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:10:36 JenniferWagner -> so should it be World Bridges/ETT or just World Brides
20:11:11 JoseRodriguez -> Hey Folks
20:11:13 JenniferWagner -> LOL — World Bridges — not WOrld Brides– that is another show
20:11:31 JenMad -> Can John or Jeff summarize some of the points that they feel are "hot" buttons?
20:11:54 JenniferWagner -> cuz the mission says World Bridges
20:12:15 JohnS -> Mission needs work.
20:12:29 JenniferWagner -> this is not really a mission statement — it is more of an explanation
20:12:42 JenniferWagner -> a mission statement has goals and direction — 🙂 but it is a good beginning
20:12:52 JenniferWagner -> I like HOME GROWN
20:13:08 JenMad -> … and "we’re sorry" … put that in there, too.
20:13:19 JenniferWagner -> 🙂
20:14:08 JoseRodriguez -> A showhost are the webcasting team
20:14:10 mrsdurff -> why define a difference?
20:14:33 JenniferWagner -> The show host then can change — so you would want a SHOW PRODUCER category too
20:14:35 mrsdurff -> why not just say show participants
20:14:35 JoseRodriguez -> they are in charge
20:14:39 JenMad -> So, show hosts are different than Producers?
20:14:45 JenniferWagner -> our SHOW HOST changes each week based on the Moderator
20:14:55 JenniferWagner -> but the producer — in our case — is me
20:14:59 JoseRodriguez -> what’s the deal with the producer?
20:15:09 JenMad -> hosts = "crew" … ok
20:15:11 JenniferWagner -> The Final Go To Person?? Perhaps??
20:15:12 mrsdurff -> then Jose you are our producer
20:15:35 JenniferWagner -> No perhaps the BOSS — but the person to "go to"
20:15:46 JoseRodriguez -> I see…..
20:15:46 JenniferWagner -> not my show — just my original idea
20:15:58 alicemercer -> Oh no, Durff runs things
20:16:00 mrsdurff -> alice i nominate Jose to be our producer
20:16:02 JenniferWagner -> 🙂
20:16:31 JenniferWagner -> I think you do need a "Definite" final GO TO person
20:17:09 alicemercer -> Yeah
20:17:22 mrsdurff -> but we all have content elsewhere
20:17:23 JoseRodriguez -> I’ll be the producer but the ladies, REALLY in charge.
20:17:27 alicemercer -> Jose, you’re it.
20:17:33 JenniferWagner -> so you have the "EDTECH" name??
20:17:45 JenMad -> Next week, join us for "JenTechWeekly"!
20:17:48 JenniferWagner -> that is a "brand" for only this area to use??
20:18:03 mrsdurff -> i like JenTechWeekly
20:18:06 alicemercer -> Someone leaving????
20:18:07 JoseRodriguez -> I’ll be the producer as long as I can find free wifi
20:18:30 mrsdurff -> exactly
20:18:31 JenniferWagner -> or EdTechLite 🙂
20:18:34 alicemercer -> What the heck is that?
20:18:43 mrsdurff -> Jen’s show
20:18:50 JoseRodriguez -> catching a low signal outside of dance studio right now 🙂
20:18:56 JenniferWagner -> free wifi?? is that what you are asking??
20:18:56 alicemercer -> Great taste? But not as filling?
20:19:02 JenMad -> EdTechConversationWeekly
20:19:22 mrsdurff -> there are other shows out there with ‘EdTech.." in the name
20:19:29 JenniferWagner -> dealing with my pen just exploding 🙂 hmmmm
20:19:34 alicemercer -> I’m a talking head, BUT…there is so much that Durff, and Jose do
20:19:47 mrsdurff -> i do nothing
20:19:48 alicemercer -> I’m like a newscaster sometimes, so I understand
20:20:03 alicemercer -> Jose started it, and he gets it.
20:20:06 alicemercer -> I understand
20:20:10 mrsdurff -> except nominate Jose
20:20:23 JenniferWagner -> but by saying the Producer — you could say that is the GO TO PERSON — and not necessary the IN CHARGE PERSON
20:20:37 JoseRodriguez -> true
20:20:40 JenniferWagner -> I second the nomination of Jose
20:20:42 alicemercer -> Last man standing?
20:20:52 alicemercer -> Hey let’s nominate him for that!
20:20:59 mrsdurff -> does the board serve for life?
20:21:16 JenniferWagner -> jose — you are going to NECC?? when do you leave? and Alice??
20:21:18 alicemercer -> Hmm,
20:21:20 JoseRodriguez -> It says veto by the MAN
20:21:28 alicemercer -> Friday at 5 a.m. local time
20:21:40 JenniferWagner -> Not the name of MY next show
20:21:40 alicemercer -> Jose, you have reservation yet?
20:21:41 mrsdurff -> oi veh
20:21:46 alicemercer -> YUCK!
20:21:53 JenMad -> w00t!
20:22:04 alicemercer -> Hooters Tech Talk?
20:22:05 JoseRodriguez -> Still working out details for NECC…
20:22:19 JenniferWagner -> wow — and I thought I waited to the last moment
20:22:25 JoseRodriguez -> Arrive on Friday…
20:22:41 alicemercer -> Well, Jose is a seat o’the pants guy.
20:22:52 alicemercer -> We’re used to it (drives Lisa nuts, shhhh)
20:23:02 mrsdurff -> yup
20:23:09 alicemercer -> She forgives him
20:23:12 JenniferWagner -> did we lose John??
20:23:15 Lorna -> I think webcastacademy should be a requirement for hosting a new show
20:23:21 JenMad -> Do you need to stream on ETT? Is that a requirement?
20:23:25 mrsdurff -> verbiage? how delicate
20:23:28 Lorna -> gives a good sense of the community
20:23:34 JoseRodriguez -> so, wrote all the verbage?
20:23:35 JenMad -> Can a show stream elsewhere and then post here?
20:23:45 JoseRodriguez -> who wrote all that stuff
20:23:55 alicemercer -> Does that include Ustream?
20:24:03 mrsdurff -> this governing board – how long do members serve?
20:24:29 JoseRodriguez -> Creative Commons 3.0 no strings attacehd
20:24:33 JenMad -> So, the stream must be linked (embedded) on ETT?
20:24:34 JoseRodriguez -> attached
20:24:41 alicemercer -> Hmm, can’t have my students on it.
20:24:42 JenniferWagner -> soooo — what if a show did get a kickback — would that then not be allowed to be an ETT show??
20:24:44 alicemercer -> HECK NO!
20:24:51 mrsdurff -> i streamed flashmeeting
20:25:00 JenMad -> Then "publishing" would be the podcast?
20:25:13 WHenry -> so where can I learn more about webaccademy
20:25:25 alicemercer -> Am I hearing, issues?
20:25:30 mrsdurff -> commuunity participation?
20:25:40 JenMad -> that is kind of what I was getting at … if you stream elsewhere, then it doesn’t feel like a community
20:25:46 JoseRodriguez -> Perhaps be available for community work like this…
20:25:49 JenniferWagner -> OH oH[
20:25:55 JenniferWagner -> This is where I have an IDEA
20:25:59 JenniferWagner -> should I call JOHN??
20:26:06 JL -> yep
20:26:08 JenniferWagner -> okay
20:26:11 mrsdurff -> paying it forward – good term
20:26:13 alicemercer -> Treat it kindly JW
20:26:24 JenMad -> i.e. if stream, chat, etc. is elsewhere … that "feels" like a bit part of what I perceive as the "community" engagement
20:26:33 JenniferWagner -> hmmmm
20:26:34 JoseRodriguez -> "paying it forward" by having a show aren’t we already promoting and doing our share?
20:26:37 JenMad -> *big … not bit
20:26:49 JenniferWagner -> in skype
20:26:50 JenniferWagner -> 🙂
20:26:52 JenniferWagner -> I think
20:27:02 mrsdurff -> how would the community handle it if that did not occur?
20:27:03 Lorna -> where is that favourite book that tells us what to do
20:27:11 alicemercer -> So will Webcast Academy be a requirement?
20:27:23 mrsdurff -> they said no
20:27:41 JoseRodriguez -> I agree to disagree
20:27:55 JenniferWagner -> I hope not 🙂
20:27:56 mrsdurff -> quiet jose
20:28:25 mrsdurff -> shunning
20:29:03 alicemercer -> Guys, that cafe press link needs to have target="_blank" added
20:29:15 JoseRodriguez -> I think that ETT researves the right to ban/block/kick at anytime….
20:29:20 JohnS -> Yeah, I know Alice.
20:29:34 mrsdurff -> so who is that Jose
20:30:12 alicemercer -> Sorry JohnS.
20:30:16 JoseRodriguez -> ETT governing board… JL has permanent seat
20:30:16 mrsdurff -> hi cathy
20:30:47 mrsdurff -> so looking forward – what happens when he retires?
20:30:58 JohnS -> It’s fixed now, but you’ll have to refresh to get it.
20:31:09 JoseRodriguez -> He’s like the pope, It’s a life-term deal
20:31:20 mrsdurff -> no, required
20:31:34 alicemercer -> yep losing audio
20:31:38 mrsdurff -> losing Jen’s audio too
20:31:42 JenMad -> audio getting a bit choppy …
20:31:44 WHenry -> audio breaking up
20:31:46 JoseRodriguez -> choppy audio eyp
20:31:52 JoseRodriguez -> yep
20:32:09 mrsdurff -> does ours?
20:32:25 Lorna -> so ourschool.ca should have a link to WB?
20:32:33 JenMad -> 🙂
20:33:14 mrsdurff -> do people who want to do a show have to be a community member for a certain amount of time?
20:33:48 JenniferWagner -> I think so Lorna
20:33:50 JenniferWagner -> don’t you??
20:34:10 JenniferWagner -> we have a LINK back — on our Weekly chat page —
20:34:16 JenniferWagner -> but I think we should have it on our main page
20:34:44 JenMad -> yep … "record of content" to be reviewed
20:34:49 JenMad -> makes sense
20:35:03 JenniferWagner -> what if yo uhave 2 classes
20:35:06 mrsdurff -> i think yes
20:35:16 alicemercer -> What if they are counting on having someone stream for them?
20:35:22 mrsdurff -> you should want to be a community member
20:35:35 JoseRodriguez -> I am thinking of sucessfull podcasts that may want to promote their show… seek a wider audience and not necessarily give anything back.
20:35:58 mrsdurff -> she is fun
20:36:09 mrsdurff -> denise easton
20:36:09 alicemercer -> I wanted to be a pretty voice, and not hurt my head with VAC, BUT NO!
20:36:29 mrsdurff -> alice you are a pretty voice
20:36:31 JohnS -> Someone on the show has to be able to stream.
20:36:31 JenMad -> @jose … that was tied to my point earlier … do "podcasts" count (i.e. that aren’t promoted as live shows)?
20:36:41 JenniferWagner -> the wonderment is — do they need to graduate??
20:36:45 JenniferWagner -> I have been to the academy
20:36:51 JenniferWagner -> but not ever finished — twice
20:36:51 alicemercer -> NAW
20:37:04 mrsdurff -> what about a facilitator
20:37:11 Bud -> Seems like the goal of webcast academy is an accountability piece for the producer – you want to ensure that the webcaster can walk the walk
20:37:30 JoseRodriguez -> Webcast Acadmey deal is hogwash… How many current ETT shows have gone through the acacdemy?
20:37:37 alicemercer -> Well, and many of us (me) have been resting on the streaming of others
20:37:38 Bud -> But a host shouldn’t necessarily need to go through that. NOr should a webcaster spend a ton of time going through some hoops.
20:37:42 mrsdurff -> but vague language could come back to bite
20:38:08 alicemercer -> BUD, if you are a radio host most of the time, you have to be able to run the board, don’t you?
20:38:09 Bud -> Seems like a "three show" person could find a volunteer to do the streaming
20:38:15 Bud -> then they’ve got sponsorship through the community.
20:38:25 JenniferWagner -> would that then not be question 7 — how many shows do you plan on doing??
20:38:31 JenniferWagner -> short term — Long term??
20:38:33 Bud -> @alice: Not necessarily.
20:38:43 alicemercer -> Most local radio hosts can do the boards. I know Rush Limbaugh can’t
20:38:52 JoseRodriguez -> I like the orientation idea.
20:39:13 Bud -> If there’s a person who can do the streaming that wants to sponsor/host a show, then I think there’s an appropriate tie to the community.
20:39:15 alicemercer -> @Bud, that’s what I told myself to convince myself to stick with WCA
20:39:54 JenniferWagner -> we have to use that????
20:39:55 Bud -> @alicemercer: And I think it’s always good for writers to understand the publishing process – but that’s also why there’re editors and publishers and copy editors, etc.
20:40:15 alicemercer -> @Bud: this is more homebrew still…
20:40:23 mrsdurff -> community dues?
20:41:07 alicemercer -> @Bud, I worry that a show could be too associated with the "voice" when the producer is doing all the tech work. Who "owns" that show/brand?
20:41:14 Bud -> @alicemercer: So’s blogging. And lots of what we do. So long as there’s a tie to the community via a producer who’s been vetted through the academy – why is it a problem? If it’s simply a matter of "I had to do it," then that’s bad policy.
20:41:40 alicemercer -> @Bud, it’s petty, but it’s my pettiness
20:41:43 Bud -> @alice mercer – do you think there are community members who are going to exploit that process? That won’t build community?
20:41:52 alicemercer -> @Bud: yep
20:42:00 JenMad -> Worldbridges and I … tee hee
20:42:22 Bud -> If so, that means there’s a problem with the Webcast Academy. And that goes against what I’ve seen as a Webcast Academy outsider.
20:42:35 mrsdurff -> would community dues be a good or bad idea?
20:42:48 JohnS -> who would pay them, durff?
20:42:58 Bud -> I’ve been offering to pay for content here for a while now.
20:43:00 mrsdurff -> community members
20:43:01 alicemercer -> @bud, I could see folks saying hey I wanna be an ed tech podcaster, I’ll find someone to handle the stream, and bloviate
20:43:09 Bud -> Micropayments are a reasonable consideration, I think.
20:43:35 mrsdurff -> how will we make donations easy?
20:43:48 JohnS -> paypal donations?
20:43:51 JenniferWagner -> what about a CHIPIN
20:43:55 JohnS -> This is finance stuff
20:43:56 JoseRodriguez -> dues can be inkind not always $$$
20:43:56 Scott Shelhart -> I would be more open to a paypal donation over a ‘membership fee’
20:44:01 WHenry -> paypal might work for dotations
20:44:01 alicemercer -> haven’t we had this discussion before?
20:44:02 mrsdurff -> what is that Jen?
20:44:04 Bud -> @alicemercer: But would a WorldBridges producer, one who’s been through the community-vetted process, sponsor such a showperson?
20:44:05 JenniferWagner -> I have a donate on my site
20:44:17 JenniferWagner -> generates about $10 every 10 months 🙂
20:44:29 alicemercer -> @bud: hahaha! Look at Lisa and Jose, they recruited me.
20:44:51 alicemercer -> @bud: really, what did I offer technically to that? NADA, bupkis
20:45:05 alicemercer -> @bud: until i went to WCA
20:45:08 Bud -> @alice – so we should remove YOu from the community? I’m confused.
20:45:12 WHenry -> could you get any grants or other free money to keep this running ?
20:45:27 JenMad -> 🙂
20:45:33 alicemercer -> @BUD: Naw, I went to WCA, so now I have value to the team
20:45:58 Bud -> @alicemercer: Did you not before you went through the process? I would argue that you did/do.
20:46:05 Scott Shelhart -> Sounds like we’re making a business plan on how not to be a business 🙂
20:46:22 mrsdurff -> uh oh – thunder again
20:46:23 alicemercer -> @scott: this is a collective, not a business
20:46:29 JenMad -> @scott … one of many such discussions 😉
20:47:04 dave -> example JenW?
20:47:27 dave -> well… really… maybe we should make sure we know what those are…
20:47:38 Bud -> I’d be interested in an example, too.
20:48:01 JohnS -> Reminder for newcomers: we’re talking about this document: https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:48:21 JenniferWagner -> just please NEVER put my name on any ballot 🙂 thank you
20:48:24 alicemercer -> Well, I should have read that
20:48:25 Bud -> edtechtalk.com is apparently blocked from this location.
20:48:36 JoseRodriguez -> So, what is an edupunk to do?
20:48:44 mrsdurff -> clicking on a link worked this time
20:48:45 JenniferWagner -> you mean — edudiva???
20:48:57 JenniferWagner -> 🙂
20:49:12 mrsdurff -> no lurking?
20:49:39 alicemercer -> So Jose, JW should I try to buy an ETT tshirt and send it to me at NECC?
20:49:59 JenniferWagner -> OH YES
20:49:59 JoseRodriguez -> sounds like a plan
20:50:23 alicemercer -> Yeah, but I won’t be able to get it in time for San Antonio!
20:50:25 alicemercer -> HELLO!
20:50:25 JenniferWagner -> but you could print it out — make a t-shirt transfer — and print your own
20:50:35 Bud -> no thongs, I hope.
20:50:43 alicemercer -> UGH!
20:50:44 alicemercer -> ICK
20:50:52 JohnS -> We’re waiting for better artwork for the thongs.
20:50:58 dave -> I recenlty took a class and the instructor told me about this great website and blog called “The TechTeacher Network”. It was really cool and has a lot of great tools and tips. He may have some answers on this issue. http://www.thetechteacher.libsyn.com Thanks Richard B.
20:51:19 Bud -> @john – wait a long time.
20:51:26 alicemercer -> SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM, SPAM
20:51:28 JohnS -> 🙂
20:51:34 mrsdurff -> that is spam
20:51:36 alicemercer -> At least it’s not the Detention Slip, lol
20:52:06 Bud -> cannot the community discuss/deliberate as issues arise?
20:52:08 mrsdurff -> thou shalt not spam (except twitter)
20:52:33 Bud -> all decisions within the final discretion of a majority vote of the board?
20:52:46 JoseRodriguez -> and not contribute the the community?
20:52:56 JenniferWagner -> does it matter how your name is spread throughout the community — or do you just want the name spread. There is a biblical reference I am thinking of – anyone else know what I am thinking of??
20:53:04 Bud -> so, then, a statement along the lines of "be a responsible member of the educational community"
20:53:10 JenniferWagner -> not that you need a biblical reference 🙂
20:53:38 alicemercer -> We’ll support you if you make an on-topic, personal comment sharing your resource, NOT SPAM!
20:53:43 alicemercer -> I’ve done that
20:53:58 JenniferWagner -> Are you ready to truly check EVERY endoresement??
20:54:30 JenniferWagner -> did people think we were spamming on Twitter??
20:54:32 JenniferWagner -> truly???
20:54:35 Bud -> patterns of behavior that do not reflect the norms of the edtechtalk community will result in loss of access to community resources?
20:54:35 mrsdurff -> many people count on twitter to tell them about shows
20:54:49 mrsdurff -> dave IS talking about me
20:54:54 Bud -> final decisions will be left to the discretion of the governing board?
20:54:54 JenniferWagner -> do you send ONE newsletter???
20:55:04 Lorna -> not excessive twits
20:55:13 mrsdurff -> oh i do it on mine
20:55:57 Scott Shelhart -> I use the ETT/Google calendar combination to remind me about shows.
20:56:35 mrsdurff -> people who are not in the community count on our announcements
20:56:47 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/taxonomy/term/128
20:57:05 mrsdurff -> huh?
20:57:08 JenMad -> need to head out … nite all!
20:57:13 Scott Shelhart -> True. I stumbled here on accident.
20:57:15 mrsdurff -> nit Jen
20:57:18 Bud -> which one of you is the eduMan?
20:57:31 Bud -> don’t you take turns?
20:57:36 mrsdurff -> we are glad you did Scott
20:57:55 Scott Shelhart -> Tnx. Not to many students / future teachers here.
20:58:23 alicemercer -> I self promote I think?
20:59:08 JoseRodriguez -> Shameless self promotion is fine with me..
20:59:13 mrsdurff -> who said alice
20:59:36 JoseRodriguez -> As long as I am not selling computers, for example.
20:59:51 Bud -> Again, I have trust in the power of the vetting of the community here.
21:00:02 Cathy E -> I agree- I love knowing all about everything ya’ll are doing
21:00:02 JoseRodriguez -> as in K-12
21:00:14 Cathy E -> that is what makes the community real
21:00:17 alicemercer -> JR: be nice!
21:00:26 alicemercer -> That person has many redeeming values
21:00:30 JoseRodriguez -> sorry, I call a cab
21:00:37 JoseRodriguez -> I will
21:00:37 Bud -> C’mon.
21:00:41 JenniferWagner -> I would buy a computer from you Jose
21:00:42 mrsdurff -> some people write books and I never hear about it
21:00:50 JoseRodriguez -> thanks
21:00:59 mrsdurff -> i wouldn’t
21:01:12 JoseRodriguez -> I do have a bridge for sale
21:01:22 mrsdurff -> i did too
21:01:27 mrsdurff -> and sold it
21:01:33 JohnS -> To Jose, Durff?
21:01:41 mrsdurff -> no
21:01:45 JenniferWagner -> a World Bridge??
21:01:48 mrsdurff -> it was auctioned
21:01:49 alicemercer -> Does it add some value to the community and to education?
21:01:53 Scott Shelhart -> upper or lower bridge?
21:02:06 mrsdurff -> Golden Gate Bridge
21:02:11 JoseRodriguez -> Probably initially you prabably want to go with a selected board instead of voted….
21:02:30 JoseRodriguez -> probably….
21:02:43 mrsdurff -> board members vote
21:02:43 WHenry -> how would people be selected
21:02:53 Scott Shelhart -> Make sure to stagger the terms so that not everyone is replaced ot once.
21:02:54 alicemercer -> Always odd numbers, and less than 10
21:03:09 JoseRodriguez -> Let’s do it Geographically so that people on the East Coast don’t dominate.
21:03:21 Bud -> I don’t host a show. But I’ve been here three years or so. How does that get valued? Or does it?
21:03:24 alicemercer -> can producer delegate?
21:03:34 alicemercer -> Bud, that is a good point!
21:03:34 mrsdurff -> what about a quorum?
21:03:47 alicemercer -> Does Derrall have a show yet?
21:03:51 alicemercer -> He’s done a lot
21:03:57 JoseRodriguez -> Bud you are a valuable member.
21:04:04 mrsdurff -> i agree alice
21:04:16 Bud -> @jose – Thanks. I guess I’m not questioning that – just how to value non-hosts.
21:04:20 Bud -> heh
21:04:24 Bud -> not trying to make it about me.
21:04:28 mrsdurff -> Bud don’t ask Dave
21:04:37 Bud -> You reading it aloud made my week. Thanks, Dave.
21:04:47 alicemercer -> My grandmother taught me all my favorite cuss words
21:04:57 alicemercer -> Dave, wait until your kid starts talking
21:05:00 JoseRodriguez -> A member is a participant as in listener….
21:05:03 mrsdurff -> did he really?
21:05:08 JenniferWagner -> yes he did
21:05:16 JenniferWagner -> Saturday or Sunday — but I think it was Saturday
21:05:20 JoseRodriguez -> NO go ahead Dave say the famous
21:05:22 Bud -> what are there, a thousand odd people that listenng/participate in the community?
21:05:24 Cathy E -> how may 12 year olds listen?
21:05:24 mrsdurff -> wow, that is the end of an era
21:05:30 JoseRodriguez -> Famous 7
21:05:33 Bud -> I’d also suggest that the community can be the arbiter with language.
21:05:50 Bud -> there’s a norm there, too.
21:05:58 Scott Shelhart -> not adult shows, but shows with adults
21:05:58 mrsdurff -> family friendly would be nice
21:06:09 Bud -> Good point, Doug.
21:06:29 Bud -> I’d argue that the community’s done a really good job of regulating community behavior. Why legislate something that’s working?
21:06:33 Bud -> seven words, Dave?
21:06:35 Bud -> save it.
21:06:42 Scott Shelhart -> disclaimer the live show, bleep the podcast.
21:06:58 mrsdurff -> we are getting larger
21:07:14 mrsdurff -> i agree with jeff
21:07:19 JenniferWagner -> my family friendly list might be different than yours though
21:07:23 Lorna -> JL supporter
21:07:26 JoseRodriguez -> I’d say that it’s ok to say that Edtechtalk is seeking an adult language…
21:07:39 mrsdurff -> guidelines
21:07:40 Bud -> The community’s been growing for a while.
21:07:44 JoseRodriguez -> just add the disclaimer…
21:07:50 alicemercer -> The college level one?
21:08:01 WHenry -> the disclaimer would be a good idea
21:08:09 Lorna -> disclaimer will make more of it
21:08:15 Lorna -> disagree
21:08:16 JoseRodriguez -> How about a standard beep, beep, beep, beep.
21:08:18 dave -> http://www.erenkrantz.com/Humor/SevenDirtyWords.shtml
21:08:33 JenniferWagner -> I have always wondered what those words were — but I will still wonder
21:08:43 JoseRodriguez -> thanks dave.
21:08:49 mrsdurff -> next: nominate board members?
21:08:57 JenniferWagner -> no board members —
21:09:14 dave -> jose… you’re welcome
21:09:15 Lorna -> thanks for all the good hard work\
21:09:31 JoseRodriguez -> People will be NECCing
21:09:32 mrsdurff -> i suggest a tiered approach
21:09:33 alicemercer -> GO for it
21:09:57 Bud -> I’ll be at NECC>
21:09:58 alicemercer -> I say do it in 2 weeks, and take over It’s E slot
21:10:03 JoseRodriguez -> IT’s Elementary is cool with our time slot NOT being touched 🙂
21:10:07 mrsdurff -> so June 30th?
21:10:12 Bud -> but I can’t guarantee attendance.
21:10:26 alicemercer -> NOPE, Lisa is doing June 30th from NECC
21:10:28 JoseRodriguez -> actually go for it.. our summer is prettty slow.
21:10:42 mrsdurff -> July 7th?
21:10:50 alicemercer -> Jose, can they use the 7th?
21:10:54 mrsdurff -> both what?
21:10:57 JoseRodriguez -> sure…
21:11:08 mrsdurff -> July 7th same time?
21:11:16 alicemercer -> OR did you want to do a NECC revisit? I don’t. I’ll be coming back from a road trip at Boise, ID
21:11:18 mrsdurff -> great see you then
21:11:23 Lorna -> nite all
21:11:24 ds -> yes, 7th and 10th thanks
21:11:32 JoseRodriguez -> no…
21:11:36 alicemercer -> I wanna cuss in the chat!
21:11:41 JoseRodriguez -> He’s the Man
21:11:43 mrsdurff -> crown?
21:11:48 JenniferWagner -> I shall give Alice my Cuss Time
21:11:49 mrsdurff -> no fair
21:11:58 alicemercer -> It p|sses me that I can’t fl*ppin’ curse
21:12:11 Bud -> Might a general statement about the norms of the community, vague, yet community referenced, cover all of these issues in a few sentences that will not require details and will be breathable as the community changes and grows and fiddles with its expectations?
21:12:13 alicemercer -> Sorry, had to get that out
21:12:23 mrsdurff -> ty alice
21:12:24 alicemercer -> Bud, you are so reasonable!
21:12:24 JoseRodriguez -> hahahahahahaha
21:12:30 JohnS -> Thanks, Bud
21:12:51 Scott Shelhart -> I have never been in a ‘family friendly’ faculty lounge. Why should this community be different?
21:13:05 Bud -> I don’t mean to be too particular – but why make a bunch of rules when they’re not needed?
21:13:21 alicemercer -> Weird, hmm
21:13:24 Bud -> Turns out that the word a*al is filtered out of the chat. Interesting.)
21:13:32 mrsdurff -> we want to be inclusive scott
21:13:34 alicemercer -> Oh so is [email protected]
21:13:48 mrsdurff -> we do put up with alice
21:14:12 mrsdurff -> cool!
21:14:17 Bud -> Don’t you have one – use the logo on the shirts
21:14:27 alicemercer -> I’m glad you do, and aren’t running screaming Durff
21:14:43 mrsdurff -> mugs?
21:15:15 JohnS -> There are coffee mugs.
21:15:48 Bud -> I agree with Dave, actually.
21:16:12 Bud -> I wouldn’t state what’s not okay.
21:16:20 Bud -> i’d remind folks about the community nature.
21:16:33 Bud -> there’s a very powerful community here –
21:16:43 ds -> more about what is, rather than what’s not acceptable
21:16:48 Bud -> as soon as it’s bounded by the lowest common denominator, that’s as strong as it’ll be
21:16:50 ds -> re lang/bahave
21:16:57 alicemercer -> FCC guidelines
21:17:04 alicemercer -> and that is specific
21:17:06 Bud -> high expectations without low basic guidelines
21:17:09 alicemercer -> He’s right
21:17:16 Scott Shelhart -> I tell my kids not to do anything online that they wouldn’t do at the shopping mall. I think that applies here also.
21:17:20 Bud -> Australia’s dealing with this right now.
21:17:20 ds -> there are so many jurisdictions that we ‘cast to
21:17:25 mrsdurff -> family friendly
21:17:29 alicemercer -> Since I’m the other potty mouth, BUT I also deal with US/FCC stuff
21:17:33 alicemercer -> and elementary
21:17:45 ds -> we’re not against bad stuff, we’re for good stuff 🙂
21:18:19 alicemercer -> How about, "Keep in mind that this is education community and shows are aimed at a K-12 audience"
21:18:26 mrsdurff -> suggesting guidelines
21:18:39 alicemercer -> I just keep my cussin g in text, which is probably worse
21:18:47 Bud -> The EdTechTalk community values the rights and responsibilities of its community members. We have high expectations for our community memebers ability to live within communitynorms. Members who choose to wantonly violate those norms without regard for the community will . . .
21:18:48 mrsdurff -> i like that alice
21:18:52 Scott Shelhart -> @alice – that works for me
21:19:13 alicemercer -> Dave: CLEAN IT UP!
21:19:16 mrsdurff -> i’m not too polite about it dave
21:19:19 Bud -> We have the right to free speech and the responsibility to be specific and particular inour choice of words.
21:19:19 alicemercer -> please
21:19:44 alicemercer -> Can I suggest we look at the wording…
21:19:54 Bud -> (forgive my ignorance regarding the document – I can’t access it.)
21:20:11 mrsdurff -> now we know how to ‘pull his chain’!
21:20:17 alicemercer -> and discuss on July 7?
21:20:18 alicemercer -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
21:20:29 mrsdurff -> that is a guideline
21:20:44 mrsdurff -> still a guideline
21:20:54 Bud -> I’m with Dave. It’s weird. But I agree. And I don’t think the language should be specific to one behavior or another.
21:20:58 mrsdurff -> he does have apoint
21:21:17 mrsdurff -> there is a difference between a guideline and a law
21:21:32 alicemercer -> If you have LIsa on your side on this…
21:21:51 mrsdurff -> i hear edtechtalk setting guidelines
21:22:01 mrsdurff -> no boobs
21:22:08 dave -> and i’m trying to figure out what this is
21:22:13 Scott Shelhart -> gota run. have a nice night.
21:22:16 dave -> if it’s a guideline
21:22:20 Bud -> I won’t swear here – but I think the obligation of the community is to recognize that there are differences in language and custom and that we should be opento those differences.
21:22:24 mrsdurff -> it sounds like guidelines
21:22:39 alicemercer -> I sure as heck do, lol
21:22:42 Bud -> The disclaimershouldn’t be about specific behaviors – it should be about recognizing cultural and societal differences.
21:23:06 mrsdurff -> but to be inclusive of newcomers we should set guidelines that we are family friendly
21:23:23 Bud -> This was my school’s newspaper disclaimer.
21:23:33 mrsdurff -> we are asking aren’t we?
21:24:26 Bud -> http://oldeschoolnews.com – scroll to the bottom of the page.
21:24:27 mrsdurff -> no, it is about respect
21:24:38 mrsdurff -> it is not about free speech
21:24:48 Bud -> durff – is it always respectful to honor the newcomer over the needs/wants of the community?
21:25:11 Bud -> This community works very well – don’t over legislate it.
21:25:16 Bud -> thanks to all
21:25:23 dave -> by dudes!
21:25:33 Bud -> take care, y’all.
21:25:38 Cathy E -> it takes all sorts of personalities to make a community
build a better ETT
19:03:15 JasonR -> Almost done with an ETT
19:03:24 JasonR -> Worldbridges is a little
tougher to nail down
19:03:30 Karen James -> that was great fun,
19:03:58 JohnS -> Seriously, Jason? You made
19:04:30 JasonR -> Will be posting audio to
cephalopodcast.com if anyone wants to listen. Should be up later
tonight (fingers crossed)
19:04:50 JasonR -> If DS or someone can get
me the first five minutes, obliged.
19:05:12 AlexL -> anyway, this is my first
time listening to this podcast, can anyone enlighten me more about it?
19:05:21 drew buddie -> Hey there
19:05:32 Durff -> hey drew
19:05:35 drew buddie -> Sorry I was busy for
the latter part of the evening
19:05:36 JohnS -> Alex, they’re 23 hours
into a continuous discussion centered around Earth Day.
19:05:44 derrallg -> hi Drew
19:05:56 JohnS -> We have people here from
all over the world.
19:06:13 Durff -> we do
19:07:21 drew buddie -> Such cameraderie –
given the fact I have never met any of you before
19:07:26 AlexL -> Cool, so is this just an
19:07:32 drew buddie -> very very special
19:07:36 Durff -> hi jeff
19:07:48 drew buddie -> Is there any
prospect that this could be more regular with a different theme?
19:07:55 Durff -> hi janice
19:08:01 Durff -> oops
19:08:07 PeggyG -> This is the first of it’s
kind–hope it will become an annual event 🙂
19:08:30 JohnS -> @drew what other kind of
19:08:38 doug -> anyone else like to join
the voice call
19:08:41 doug -> Drew
19:08:57 doug -> just tried to find you
skype,but am obviously trying wrong name
19:08:59 Durff -> any one in the chatroom
dieing to talk?
19:09:10 AlexL -> awesome
19:09:22 AlexL -> I would like to talk,
except that I’m still at work
19:09:30 drew buddie -> I don’t know – ANY
sort of theme – Olympics?
19:10:00 PeggyG -> I liked both the live
events and the pre-recorded events! The students have provided an
amazing voice in this conversation.
19:10:35 sheila -> My students actually
monitored the chat room and let me know when there were questions for
19:10:44 JohnS -> This is a very compelling
format for something that’s truly global, like Earth Day. It was the
perfect topic for this kind of thing.
19:10:53 doug -> sheila, ready to skype?
19:10:58 dc -> kind of exposes the
weaknesses in the digital native metaphone eh?
19:11:00 dc -> metaphore
19:11:02 sheila -> ok
19:11:23 sheila -> i can wait
19:11:31 sheila -> don’t get too many
19:11:39 doug -> oh yes
19:11:42 Durff -> he has pro
19:11:45 JohnS -> @dc the digital native is
a moving target — sometimes they have a great deal of familiarity with
some techs, but not everything, and it’s always changing.
19:11:47 Durff -> he is rich
19:11:51 pam shoemaker -> I can leave
19:12:42 pam shoemaker -> I’m out – bring
19:13:58 AlexL -> I can’t really read much
(at work), so I’m leaving the chat. Great podcast again!
19:14:06 doug -> sheila can’t seem to add you
19:14:16 doug -> no Pam
19:14:28 doug -> like to see how many we can
get before it "tips over"
19:14:43 sheila -> living dangerously
19:14:48 pam shoemaker -> oh – call me back
19:15:36 cristina -> joao is a teacher from
19:15:47 Durff -> excellent
19:15:52 PeggyG -> The facilitation of the
entire event has been terrific. Filling in gaps, troubleshooting,
transitions between sessions–I’m in awe!
19:15:53 doug -> Sheila you need to add me
as a contact before I can add you
19:15:56 matt montagne -> hello walnut creek!
19:15:57 doug -> or call me
19:15:59 doug -> dougsymington
19:16:05 sheila -> @doug – ok
19:16:07 JasonR -> I am connected from
19:18:46 PeggyG -> I was so impressed with
the various teachers who brought in their students and to listen in on
the relationships they had. Such a positive experience for all of us.
19:19:09 pam shoemaker -> Durff – agreeed!
19:19:19 doug -> who would like to be
contestant #10 in "Can we Crash Skype?" the new WB reality show
19:20:17 PeggyG -> I love that
quote–ordinary people doing extraordinary things!
19:20:42 Durff -> funny pam
19:21:03 Durff -> hey kidd!
19:21:08 tkidd132 -> Hey
19:21:17 sheila -> although we did talk
about chatroom etiquette afterwards . . .
19:22:05 PeggyG -> I think the chatroom was
a new experience for some of the students and they weren’t used to
having adults in the chat conversation.
19:22:58 Durff -> i need to equip my
students with the skills to interact well in chatrooms
19:23:29 tkidd132 -> Durff, are any of your
19:23:36 sheila -> I’ve already been thinkin
g about that.
19:23:46 derrallg -> @durff i need to do the
same as well
19:23:52 Durff -> i don’t know kidd
19:24:00 tkidd132 -> oh…ok
19:24:15 Durff -> may be listeninng – they
19:24:24 derrallg -> hi Alice
19:24:25 cmtvarok -> are any of you using
chat rooms with your students during school hours?
19:24:40 alicemercer -> nope
19:25:04 jeffmason -> was listening to jemma
at lunch at school. Awsome interview
19:25:09 cmtvarok -> thanks, i was wondering
how security/safety would work.
19:25:29 tkidd132 -> Im writting a blog on
19:25:37 alicemercer -> Chat is hard, cause
stuff gets through.
19:25:52 Durff -> yes cmtvarol
19:25:59 Durff -> i use chatrooms
19:26:04 sheila -> @cmtvarok – I made them
use 4 letter codes so I knew who they were.
19:26:05 doug -> @cmtvarok–bouncing and
banning is an option for admin here
19:26:25 doug -> in terms of security, and
19:26:34 doug -> IP addresses are also logged
19:26:39 tkidd132 -> is this a teacher
talking or student?
19:26:57 Durff -> who?
19:27:01 cmtvarok -> thanks. my district is
so scared of liability and safety, that they’ve banned everything.
19:27:04 tkidd132 -> the person talking now
19:27:07 Durff -> lost as usual
19:27:16 doug -> all teachers at this point
19:27:16 pam shoemaker -> teacher
19:27:27 tkidd132 -> oh..ok
19:27:31 tkidd132 -> Thank you
19:27:46 doug -> pleasure
19:27:53 tkidd132 -> Here alot of actsents
19:28:02 tkidd132 -> *hear
19:28:05 matt montagne -> Hi Kelly
19:28:17 Durff -> you are the resident
19:28:25 doug -> yes, we’ve had lots of
different languages, it has been great
19:28:40 tkidd132 -> oh….
19:32:23 Durff -> hi jeannine
19:32:33 Durff -> sound to your right
19:33:23 Durff -> hi valaina
19:33:23 sheila -> @shoemap – my students
did like listening to him.
19:33:33 Valaina -> hi
19:33:43 Valaina -> I am having trouble with
19:33:49 doug -> @elderbob can’t find you in
19:33:55 Durff -> val sound to your right
19:34:00 doug -> would like to add you to
19:34:05 Durff -> click on the blue icon
19:34:14 Durff -> puter will open real player
19:34:22 Durff -> and play the stream
19:34:29 alicemercer -> I’ll have to check
that one out. A comprehensible engineer that’s new
19:34:30 Durff -> hi suz
19:34:44 suz -> Hi Durff!
19:34:55 sheila -> 😀 and she
helped me with the mac . . . thanks!
19:35:48 Durff -> all have sound?
19:35:59 Valaina -> got it thanks
19:36:58 alicemercer -> Did we have any
French from the Quebec contingent?
19:37:02 tkidd132 -> Im leaving the chat but
i am listening though
19:37:27 alicemercer -> Durff can stream!
19:37:48 alicemercer -> OH I HATE THAT!
19:37:48 sheila -> @cristina – thanks for
the mac help sessions!
19:38:37 alicemercer -> You guys try me?
19:38:58 matt montagne -> alice
19:39:02 matt montagne -> yes, we’ll get you
19:39:07 matt montagne -> definitely
19:39:11 alicemercer -> No I meant last night
19:39:18 alicemercer -> You don’t need to
call me now
19:40:03 sheila -> @alice – my mother is
doing a walkable project and listened to you and your husband. Her
19:40:14 alicemercer -> I’m so happy!
19:40:27 sheila -> I may contact you all
later . . .
19:40:49 jeannine -> I’d like to hear
Durff’s quote again – "If you’re not breaking it you’re not trying hard
enough" was that it???
19:41:03 alicemercer -> PLEASE! Where are
19:41:14 alicemercer -> Jose is awesome!
19:41:21 sheila -> I’m in NH and my mom is
in REading, MA.
19:41:37 alicemercer -> I’d love it, and so
19:41:38 cristina -> he is.Jose is just great
19:42:00 alicemercer -> You have my skype,
twitter, etc.? I’m Miz Mercer on Skype and alicemercer on Twitter
19:42:08 alicemercer -> I heard from him
19:42:10 sheila -> yes!
19:42:12 alicemercer -> He has a staff
19:42:22 alicemercer -> And didn’t think he
could make it
19:42:30 alicemercer -> THAT man is nutz
19:42:40 sheila -> oh really?
19:43:08 Durff -> i agree alice
19:43:28 derrallg -> even with coffee i
don’t think i could stay awake
19:43:55 Durff -> hi james
19:44:10 alicemercer -> I’m muted until you
talk to me
19:44:11 James.Sigler -> Hi everybody!
19:44:18 alicemercer -> Wasn’t expecting a
19:44:29 Durff -> good girl
19:44:31 doug -> sorry bout that
19:44:33 Durff -> hi paul
19:44:41 doug -> shoulda given you a warning
19:44:48 paulallison -> hi
19:44:49 doug -> but you’re a pro
19:44:50 alicemercer -> YOu are like that
19:44:52 Durff -> doug does that
19:44:53 doug -> hi Paul
19:45:03 alicemercer -> I have that fast
mute action going
19:45:05 James.Sigler -> I’ve been listening
in at times during the day, but I couldn’t log in the chat from school
19:45:09 doug -> oh yes
19:45:42 alicemercer -> Will the circle be
19:45:53 James.Sigler -> I even let my
students live for a few minutes
19:46:32 alicemercer -> NOT
19:46:35 alicemercer -> Solo
19:46:41 alicemercer -> I’ll join in
19:46:48 pam shoemaker -> @james.sigler –
probably need a java update
19:46:50 Durff -> aw c’mon
19:46:51 alicemercer -> Is it Alice Barr who
does banjo etc?
19:46:58 derrallg -> we need a bouncing ball
19:47:01 alicemercer -> I save my singing
for sound test
19:47:04 Durff -> no lee does
19:47:17 alicemercer -> Will the circle be
unbroken, by and by lord, by and by
19:47:34 derrallg -> @alice Lee Baber
19:47:36 alicemercer -> BETTER!
19:47:46 alicemercer -> I knew I wasn’t
remembering it right
19:48:35 derrallg -> we need one of those
camp songs about stars and friends
19:48:39 alicemercer -> I’m trying to cell
19:48:45 doug -> cool
19:48:49 doug -> if you get hom
19:48:51 doug -> him
19:48:52 alicemercer -> JOSE IS LOGGING IN!
19:49:04 alicemercer -> CALL HIM!
19:49:13 doug -> on it
19:49:27 Lorna -> Sounds like Matt has lost
19:49:30 James.Sigler -> @ Pam Why
would I need a Java update if I can log in the chat from home?
19:49:39 alicemercer -> Do we need to wrap
up? I can leave.
19:49:41 matt montagne -> I have lost my
19:49:48 Durff -> hey carla
19:49:55 carlaarena -> hey, Durff!
19:50:16 pam shoemaker -> @james – yes, java
update wouldn’t help
19:50:25 James.Sigler -> Does that mean it
was successful if you lose your voice?
19:50:47 alicemercer -> Should I leave to
19:50:55 matt montagne -> no alice
19:50:58 carlaarena -> it is OK, Alice
19:50:58 matt montagne -> join in!
19:51:02 James.Sigler -> awwww, shucks
19:51:05 carlaarena -> I can listen to you
19:51:08 matt montagne -> Please do join in
19:51:09 doug -> Hey Carla
19:51:15 carlaarena -> hey, Doug!
19:51:34 James.Sigler -> Go Jose! Go Jose!
19:51:58 carlaarena -> hey, Jose
19:52:21 Durff -> hi arowley
19:52:32 carlaarena -> poor jose!
19:53:05 arowley -> hi
19:53:12 matt montagne -> alice
19:53:17 Durff -> sound to your right
19:53:18 matt montagne -> doug will skye you
19:53:18 alicemercer -> Howdy
19:53:21 carlaarena -> hang in there, Guys!
19:53:26 alicemercer -> There is no time Matt
19:53:37 matt montagne -> Yes, we want you in
19:53:48 arowley -> should there be sound
19:53:59 carlaarena -> yes.
19:54:04 Durff -> hello earthday
19:54:14 Durff -> sound to your right
19:54:20 carlaarena -> I’m listening to it
in channel one, on your right
19:54:23 Durff -> click on black icon
19:54:44 arowley -> got it! Thanks.
19:55:33 arowley -> Its my b-day so I should
celebrate it with the Mother Earth.
19:55:33 carlaarena -> I just loved Rye Jr.
19:55:36 carlaarena -> they took over
19:55:38 matt montagne ->
19:55:48 matt montagne -> nice blog post
summary by Graham Atwell
19:55:49 Durff -> arowley happy birthday
19:55:59 carlaarena -> I read the post
19:56:02 carlaarena -> nice summary
19:56:12 arowley -> thanks
19:56:23 Durff -> hi cindy
19:56:32 cindy p -> hi Durff!
19:56:32 carlaarena -> it’s ok Alice
19:56:35 Durff -> $5
19:56:39 James.Sigler -> Family home, time
19:56:42 Durff -> to arowley
19:56:44 James.Sigler -> ttyl
19:56:46 Durff -> hi cindy
19:56:51 sheila -> @carlaarena – you were
fast with the audio!
19:57:08 carlaarena -> oh, Sheila. I wanted
to share with my students
19:57:14 Durff -> bye james
19:57:15 carlaarena -> I broke it in parts…
19:57:22 carlaarena -> should upload it all
19:57:32 Durff -> hi again arowley
19:57:38 carlaarena -> I made it by topics
for easy understanding.
19:57:42 alicemercer -> Can I add something?
I don’t know if these new connections will change the world, etc. BUT I
think it’s nice because it changes us, and ETT. It makes it new and
19:57:55 sheila -> @carlaarena – Robin was
pleased to hear it later.
19:58:12 arowley -> Are they archiving the
info? We’re on break but I would like to share it with my
19:58:26 carlaarena -> I was going to
contact Robin to tell her about it.
19:58:26 carlaarena -> Oh, you’re sheila
19:58:56 Durff -> yes arowley
19:59:03 carlaarena -> yes, arowley
19:59:06 Durff -> all ardhived
19:59:13 Durff -> hi mom
19:59:26 Durff -> hi deb
19:59:45 Durff -> hi mom
19:59:46 sheila -> yes Sheila Adams
20:00:02 carlaarena -> sheila, I just loved
your part of the webcast
20:00:12 rmom352 -> Hello, sorry I arrived
20:00:22 carlaarena -> I could see how your
students were involved
20:00:28 matt montagne -> cristina was
great…I agree Jose
20:00:32 sheila -> Robin doesa a great job
sharing her experiences. Did you see her photos?
20:00:34 Durff -> almost over but not yet
20:00:34 carlaarena -> they had that
20:00:42 carlaarena -> yes. I loved them!
20:00:54 Durff -> hi harold
20:00:54 harold -> hi fm Maine
20:00:58 carlaarena -> Tell Robin that I
just loved her participation
20:01:07 sheila -> I will!
20:01:15 Durff -> hi wren
20:01:17 wrem -> hi there
20:01:25 derrallg -> I could have had all my
Mandarin students translating
20:01:34 JasonR -> Hey, had the UK for the
20:01:35 Durff -> yes!
20:01:37 sheila -> I have some chimes . . .
should we end with that after the promo?
20:01:42 wrem -> I love earth day!
20:01:47 Durff -> i concur
20:01:55 JasonR -> Would like to get some
students in my session if I do this again though
20:01:59 JasonR -> Will work on that
20:01:59 wrem -> 😀 😀
20:02:25 paulallison -> Are we in the
Community Meeting yet?
20:02:32 JL -> about to begin
20:02:46 paulallison -> ok
20:02:52 Durff -> about to end jeff
20:02:59 Durff -> hi mom
20:03:24 wrem -> have any of u done a
20:03:47 wrem ->
20:04:00 carlaarena -> it was great!
20:04:13 Lorna -> Hurrah
20:04:21 pam shoemaker -> Hooray!
20:04:28 wrem -> hi harold
20:04:42 jeannine -> Thank you all for
bringing many voices to say hello to Mother Earth.
20:06:58 doug -> thanks everybody–that was
amazing–hope to see you all again soon
20:07:02 JohnS -> Please scroll down and
double click on the Edtechtalk room.
20:07:13 harold -> hi wrem
20:07:36 JasonR -> Am I here?
20:07:43 wrem -> have u done any podcasts
today 4 earth day?
20:07:46 Durff -> no this is a dream
20:07:46 harold -> just trying to get thr
grdr 204, fm vaca this wk 🙁 too many 1/2 done
20:07:51 JL ->
20:07:52 JohnS ->
20:07:55 JohnS -> Agenda
20:08:03 Durff -> quick break here
20:08:04 JohnS -> You’re here JasonR
20:09:32 JM -> Hi, all!
20:09:55 wrem -> where r u from JM
20:10:41 dgoodman -> Hello all
20:10:48 JL -> Hi Deb
20:10:50 matt montagne -> hey ya’ll
20:11:09 JL -> Agenda (or framing of issues)
20:11:32 doug -> are we started?
20:11:50 JL -> you all getting audio ok?
20:11:57 Lorna -> yes
20:11:58 matt montagne -> audio=good
20:12:17 dgoodman -> audio is good here
20:12:26 JM -> listening on A … sounds
great … eating and listening … both yummy
20:12:44 doug -> good on stream
20:13:11 wrem -> hey doug
20:13:17 wrem -> where r u from?
20:13:52 JM -> @jl … la di da … layin’
down the french and all
20:14:03 wrem -> how old r u guys?
20:14:11 cindy p -> @cheryl- I’m jealous 🙂
20:14:17 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Hey Durff, Doug, Jeff, Dave!
20:14:27 doug -> hey Cheryl
20:14:27 Durff -> hi cheryl
20:14:39 wrem -> hey cheryl
20:14:43 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Cindy p, spring break is great, still skiing! 60
20:14:49 JM -> hey … all!
20:14:49 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Congrats Paul!!!!
20:14:58 wrem -> hey
20:15:00 wrem -> all
20:15:01 JM -> congrats to TTT!!! 100 baby!!!
20:15:04 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Hi wrem! nice to see you here.
20:15:15 wrem -> u too
20:15:27 JasonR -> Jeff sounds a little
20:15:29 Durff -> hi jose
20:15:31 dgoodman -> hey there durff
20:15:36 cindy p -> Wish we had seen enough
snow to stay on the ground for a day
20:15:39 Durff -> hey deb
20:15:43 JoseRodriguez -> Hi People
20:15:48 dgoodman -> Hi Jose
20:15:54 Durff -> more live?
20:15:54 wrem -> @cheryloakes how old r u?
20:15:54 JohnS -> Jeff does?
20:16:13 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Hi Jose, Lorna, dgoodman, Gary, harold, JM, matt,
20:16:20 wrem -> *)
20:16:32 Gary -> @ cindy p: We have enough
snow to stay on the ground for a week.
20:16:35 Lorna -> Hi Cheryl
20:16:36 dgoodman -> hello Cheryl-wish I
were on vacation and skiing
20:16:39 harold -> hi
20:16:40 dc ->
20:16:49 JM -> hi, @cheryloakes on vacation
20:16:50 JoseRodriguez -> Hey DS did you get
20:16:52 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> I will ski one for you dgoodman
20:16:52 matt montagne -> hey Cheryl
20:17:00 dgoodman -> thanks
20:17:01 dc ->
20:17:07 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> HI JM.
20:17:10 wrem -> hi shelia
20:17:13 harold -> been almost 80 here in
20:17:23 wrem -> 😀
20:17:25 sheila -> HI wrem
20:17:31 dc ->
20:17:39 wrem -> do u know who this is?
20:17:41 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Harold, that is what skiing was like on Sugarloaf
70 degrees and sunny.
20:17:50 JasonR -> I don’t see a link
20:17:50 Gary -> access denied?
20:18:02 JohnS ->
20:18:17 JasonR -> Ah, wrong room
20:18:18 Gary -> ok thanks
20:18:23 JasonR -> link again
20:18:27 dc ->
20:18:28 harold -> I just drove past Mt.
Wash. this a.m. coming back frm NH, shopping in Conway, some good deals!
20:18:36 Durff -> hi chris
20:18:39 Gary -> No – I understandd
20:18:39 JL ->
20:18:40 earthdaylover -> hi
20:18:40 JohnS -> Everyone go over to the
EdTechtalk Chat room, please
20:18:43 harold -> access denied
20:18:44 doug -> works
20:18:45 chris/student -> hey
20:18:51 wrem -> hey
20:18:55 earthdaylover -> i am from lawson
20:19:06 JL ->
20:19:06 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> hello earthdaylover
20:19:19 dc ->
20:19:23 earthdaylover -> hi mr.garrison
20:19:29 harold -> just tried to link up –
access denied to the you are not authorized
20:19:34 chris/student -> I’m from NHES
20:19:44 derrallg -> hi earthdaylover
20:19:46 JL -> need to be logged in to the
20:20:04 earthdaylover -> i AM SANCHIT YOUR
20:20:14 wrem -> i love earth day
20:20:28 earthdaylover -> same here it was
20:20:35 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> i blogged earth day today at techlearning.com/blog
20:20:46 derrallg -> @earthdaylover you are
welcome to listen but the earthday webcast is over
20:20:48 Durff -> btw earthcast is over
20:20:53 Durff -> it is done
20:21:06 earthdaylover ->
20:21:13 earthdaylover -> i have nothing to
20:21:18 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Durff, everyday is earthday
20:21:22 earthdaylover -> GETING BORED
20:21:45 earthdaylover -> 🙂 🙁
20:21:59 dgoodman -> @cheryl I
agree, everyday is earthday
20:22:07 JoseRodriguez -> @dave
done with node 🙂
20:22:17 JohnS -> How cool is this? We need
earthWEEK next year.
20:22:21 earthdaylover -> I WAS WATCHING
20:22:55 chris/student -> it’s over
20:23:00 chris/student -> ?
20:23:03 JL ->
20:23:08 earthdaylover -> I FOUND OUT THEY
HAVE EARTH DAY SPECIAL
20:23:19 earthdaylover -> ITS LIKE SAVE
20:23:31 JoseRodriguez -> EarthCast 08 is
over.. interested in planning 09?
20:23:31 dgoodman -> I did geocaching with
8th graders today in the rain and we integrated earthday and how
geocachers are all about taking care of the earth-sstudents cleaned up
the campus while hunting for their hidden caches
20:23:39 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> JohnS earth week, good idea
20:23:50 chris/student -> maybe
20:24:34 wrem -> have a great rest of the
20:24:36 wrem -> !
20:24:38 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> dgoodman, do you have a website about geocache? we
are starting up with 7th graders in May
20:24:44 wrem -> bye everyone
20:24:45 doug -> thanks Durff
20:24:50 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> wrem, where are you off to?
20:24:53 earthdaylover(SANCHIT FROM LAWSON)
20:25:04 wrem -> I’m watchin american idol
20:25:12 wrem -> i gotta go
20:25:13 earthdaylover(SANCHIT FROM LAWSON)
-> LUCKY YOU
20:25:17 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> have fun, it is nearly down to the wire
20:25:24 Durff -> this is an adult meeting
20:25:24 wrem -> i know
20:25:30 wrem -> have a great earth day
20:25:32 Durff -> for the community
20:25:37 wrem -> o
20:25:39 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> speak for yourself durff
20:25:42 Durff -> earthday is finished
20:25:45 derrallg -> @sanchit this is for a
20:25:49 chris/student -> yep
20:25:57 dgoodman -> @cherl I
don’t have one I’ve created but use geocaching.com to introduce
geocaching and what it is all about
20:25:58 earthdaylover(SANCHIT FROM LAWSON)
-> ok saaya
20:26:08 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> thanks dgoodman
20:26:10 wrem -> sorry 2 interupt your
20:26:22 wrem -> Durff
20:26:22 JoseRodriguez -> np
20:26:27 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> wrem come back another time
20:26:33 doug -> are we getting Canadian
charitable status on Edbridges
20:26:38 doug -> too
20:26:43 wrem -> sorry
20:27:00 wrem -> i didn’t mean too
20:27:02 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> no need to apoligize on my account
20:27:11 wrem -> thanx
20:27:11 JoseRodriguez -> same here
20:27:23 dc ->
20:27:31 wrem -> bye shelia
20:27:36 wrem -> bye everyone
20:27:42 chris/student -> can i plan the
earth cast of 09?
20:27:43 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> bye wrem
20:27:44 doug -> propose that we do go for
that, Canadian charitable status, that is
20:27:55 wrem -> lol
20:28:28 derrallg -> @chris/student there
will be discussions i’m sure later
20:28:55 chris/student -> ok e-mail me when
@ [email protected]
20:28:59 chris/student -> ok?
20:29:08 JoseRodriguez -> Gotta run
folks…. Let me know how I can step in and help…
20:29:25 JoseRodriguez -> I’ll keep an eye
20:29:28 doug -> cya Jose, thanks again
20:29:36 JohnS -> Thanks, Jose. Get some
20:29:38 JasonR -> You need an office in
20:29:57 JL -> can we have an underwater
20:30:00 Durff -> good pt doug
20:30:06 JasonR -> Yes (in Second Life)
20:30:24 doug -> I’ll get us $ with Cdn
20:30:29 dgoodman -> @cheryl
another site I used was http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/gps.htm
20:30:32 doug -> no nickel and dime
20:31:07 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> great, will keep these on the moodle site.
20:31:08 dgoodman -> @cheryl we
also mapped our loctions on google earth afterwards – the students
thought that was the neatest thing
20:31:24 dc ->
20:32:30 dgoodman -> I’d love to advertise
Edtechtalk – it has been the best prof dev for me personally
20:32:51 JM -> I LOVE the earthcast logo …
Jason … whip up a similar one for ETT, please!!
20:33:01 JasonR -> You want cartoony or
20:33:23 JM -> designer’s choice 🙂
20:33:25 JasonR -> Earthcast was a little
cartoony. I’d prefer more formal.
20:33:36 matt montagne -> @dgoodman…I
agree…it is valuable professional dev
20:33:37 chris/student -> Got to go e-mail
me so i can find out about earth cast of 09 ok
20:33:41 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> I like the earthcast logo too.
20:33:45 chris/student -> @
20:33:57 Durff -> and he said it, not me
20:34:00 chris/student ->
20:34:03 JasonR -> You have talent DC. You
are coarse and salty.
20:34:09 Lorna -> management question
20:34:09 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> thanks dgoodman for the idea!
20:34:22 dc -> @Lorna fire away
20:34:32 dgoodman -> @cheryl you’re welcome
20:34:39 Lorna -> no I mean
cartoon or formal
20:34:42 JasonR -> But the world+headset
seems apt for a worldbridges adaptation
20:34:51 dc -> FILLME
20:35:03 JasonR -> I filled you
20:35:11 Durff -> hi kathy
20:35:16 sendkathy -> hi!
20:35:19 Durff -> hi matt
20:35:22 dc -> two new people
20:35:23 sendkathy -> Hi welcoming person
20:35:24 dc ->
20:35:29 dgoodman -> @cheryl I have some
geocache websites that I’ll add to Diigo …I’ll create a group for them
20:35:37 Durff -> you are funny kathy
20:35:41 chris/student -> welcome!!!:)
20:35:44 JM -> I’d like to see home grown
cartoony, too, I think …
20:35:45 sendkathy -> no you are
20:36:00 Durff -> hey jen!
20:36:05 dgoodman -> hi jen
20:36:06 Matt_Cronin -> Hello
20:36:07 JenWagner -> Hey Lisa
20:36:11 JenWagner -> hello ROOM!!!
20:36:13 sendkathy -> the soon to be
birthday girl has just enteredt the room
20:36:19 doug -> hey JDub
20:36:22 derrallg -> hi Jen
20:36:23 JL ->
20:36:23 sendkathy -> her initials are…JW
20:36:25 Durff -> when kathy?
20:36:28 JenWagner -> @Kathy — we need to
20:36:30 sendkathy -> Thursday
20:36:43 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> Hi Jen, almost the bday woman, hi sendkathy!
20:36:45 Durff -> happy birthday to her
20:36:46 sendkathy -> @Jen, okkie dockie
20:36:47 JenWagner -> Alas, yes…….I am
getting closer to 50 than 45 🙂
20:36:54 Durff -> happy birthday to her
20:36:55 JenWagner -> Hi Cheryl
20:36:57 Lorna -> drupal is not fun to use
20:37:06 JenWagner -> I liked drupal
20:37:08 chris/student -> what adout diingo?
20:37:08 dgoodman -> Im with you Jen
20:37:16 Durff -> happy birthday dear Jen
happy birthday to you
20:37:19 dc -> LOOK… FILL ME
https://edtechtalk.net/node/add/ett-part FILL ME… LOOK
20:37:27 JenWagner -> 🙂 Put
another candle on the birthday cake — right??
20:37:32 Durff -> ok then dave
20:37:33 cindy phthisic -> @Jen – Happy
20:37:35 Matt_Cronin -> Drupal is wide open
which can make it daunting
20:37:42 chris/student -> yep
20:37:56 doug -> had a bunch o’ VLC converts
20:38:03 JenWagner -> hey Cindy — I gave
you a lot of free publicity on my projectsbyjen.ning.com site
20:38:12 JasonR -> Yeah, the experimenty
part gets a little annoying. Constant learning curve. Why won’t this
tech stand still?
20:38:16 cindy phthisic -> I saw
that and thanks!
20:38:30 doug -> done
20:38:38 Durff -> because we can’t go there
20:38:42 sendkathy -> @dave, webcastacademy
is so cutting edge because it’s so flexible
20:38:45 chris/student -> does any body use
20:38:45 JenWagner -> LOL — fill what out??
20:38:45 JasonR -> you have to log in
20:38:51 JM -> hey, JW … sounds like
birthday greetings are in order … HBTY!
20:38:51 cindy phthisic -> I had great
response for the Around the World in 80 Tweets. Was hoping
for 1/2 that and got 95 from all over
20:38:54 Durff -> i have tried
20:38:54 dc ->
20:38:54 chris/student -> haha
20:38:57 Durff -> sorry
20:39:05 JenWagner -> @JM and ALL — thank
you — I enjoy my BIRTHDAY WEEK!!
20:39:06 JasonR -> what is that cindy?
20:39:39 chris/student -> duff you have
20:39:42 JM -> @JW … ditto that sister! as
longs as you need to have a birthday, best to go for it 🙂
20:39:52 pam shoemaker -> most people need
to jump through the hoops to know how to webcast!
20:40:00 chris/student -> yes
20:40:05 chris/student -> sure do
20:40:08 JenWagner -> @chris — I used Diigo
for a month and then withdrew my membership 🙂
20:40:12 JasonR -> yeah, contribute. The
intercast is valuable. The learning.
20:40:12 Durff -> i have to jump?
20:40:18 sendkathy -> I think the baptism by
fire is a team building experience
20:40:19 chris/student -> cool
20:40:20 doug -> you need some sort of
aculturalization for this to keep working, I think
20:40:21 JasonR -> The painful learning.
20:40:22 Durff -> no wonder i can’t get it
20:40:24 dc -> @Durff you need to log in
20:40:24 JasonR -> And the hazing.
20:40:34 doug -> re becoming a part of
20:40:34 cindy phthisic -> @JasonR- trying
to show power of twitter network to teachers
20:40:39 sendkathy -> even though I never
quite made it through I feel connected
20:40:40 matt montagne -> I like the webcast
20:40:43 Durff -> ah
20:41:01 dgoodman -> I want to do webcast
academy again-got bogged down the last session
20:41:08 dgoodman -> I will jump with you
20:41:11 Durff -> dave – i am logged in
20:41:11 chris/student -> me too
20:41:12 cindy phthisic ->
20:41:13 JenWagner -> I agree with the kinda
20:41:23 chris/student -> yep
20:41:26 JenWagner -> you appreciate this
site MUCH MORE if you have seen behind the scences
20:41:27 Durff -> it goes to this page
20:41:30 JenWagner -> scenes
20:41:37 Durff -> not to a survey
20:41:47 sendkathy -> yes, behind the scenes
is very cool
20:42:01 derrallg -> I think webcast academy
is more about community than learning tools
20:42:19 Durff -> copycat
20:42:22 Lorna -> they were nice
20:42:22 JenWagner -> I am a LIFE LONG
20:42:23 doug -> intern for life
20:42:29 sendkathy -> Why not? Why
not get him to mentor others so he can connect
20:42:35 cindy phthisic -> @Jen – also
thanks for the help with Skype calls – had several replies
20:42:56 Durff -> what is they give old
profs – emeritus – that’s me
20:43:00 cindy phthisic -> …and third, and
20:43:11 doug -> or get in their and share
what you know with others, notwithstanding what one does/doesn’t know
20:43:11 Lorna -> academy – good place to
20:43:21 doug -> re academy
20:43:27 matt montagne -> by all – time to
20:43:28 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> I agree, going through again, it a good thing,
teaching WCA is a great thing too
20:43:35 chris/student -> bye!!
20:43:39 matt montagne -> and time to go home
20:43:45 Durff -> PD for edtechtalk!
20:43:47 doug -> cya Matt, thanks again–get
20:43:49 Lorna -> @ matt good sleep
20:43:53 matt montagne -> 🙂
20:44:43 derrallg -> night matt
20:45:01 JM -> nite matt … happy dreams in
20:45:08 sendkathy -> I like knowing how to
webcast but I’m not sure I can make a weekly commitment so what other
roles can a member play?
20:45:10 cindy phthisic -> and a hush falls
across the crowd
20:45:16 sendkathy -> aside from having a
20:45:35 doug -> need some sleep b4 I commit
to WCA, but might….
20:45:35 JM -> @jason … is the logo done,
20:45:43 JM -> how ’bout now?
20:45:45 pam shoemaker -> It’s the best PD
20:45:59 sendkathy -> So jeff, do you think
we could have a certification in distance learning
20:46:04 cindy phthisic -> I’m in the same
boat as sendkathy – spend most of my evenings chasing my kids
20:46:05 sendkathy -> from webcast academy
20:46:18 Lorna -> I agree Jedd for PD
20:46:20 sendkathy -> I think its a great
idea and that is something I would like to work on
20:46:22 Lorna -> jeff
20:46:27 cindy phthisic -> it would work in
20:46:27 dgoodman -> @kathy I
think being a guest on a show and bringing other guests in would be
another part we play in the community
20:46:35 JenWagner -> Ohhhhh like Academy
20:46:37 JenWagner -> 🙂
20:46:41 oG ya -> i have a question
20:46:53 Lorna -> so ggod
20:46:54 sendkathy -> @dgoodman, true and I
have been involved in that way from time to time
20:47:00 oG ya -> i wanna chat 2
20:47:04 oG ya -> lets flirt
20:47:04 dgoodman -> @kathy me as
20:47:20 doug -> go Durff
20:47:21 JenWagner -> Now I need to learn
how to do that 🙂
20:47:23 sendkathy -> yeah, OK so what is my
20:47:24 Lorna -> me too
20:47:35 sendkathy -> Ms Possibilities
20:47:47 sendkathy -> hmmm
20:47:53 dc ->
https://edtechtalk.net/node/add/ett-part PD Possibilities group now added
20:48:42 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> How many of you have filled in the form, type YAH!
20:49:03 JenWagner -> @JL — Sharon only has
passwords for Stream A — and we need to get the show ready — ANY
20:49:07 JohnS -> 6, cheryl
20:49:07 sendkathy -> the form?
20:49:12 sendkathy -> LOL forgot about it
20:49:31 sendkathy -> link?
20:49:44 dgoodman -> the 3 c’s
connections, collaborations and communications
20:49:50 sendkathy -> How’s vacation cheryl?
20:50:24 wowzer -> i have a question
20:50:24 JasonR -> Give me your $L 😛
20:50:33 sendkathy -> sell t-shirts to pay
20:50:41 wowzer -> if global warming iz
helped what about deforestation
20:50:43 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
fill out this form and say YAH
20:50:59 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> on vacation, can’t skype
20:51:06 JasonR -> Oh yeah, there is a B
20:51:08 JenWagner -> @Cheryloakes on
20:51:09 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> dial up
20:51:12 JenWagner -> can you talk to SHARON
20:51:18 Durff -> way to go cheryl
20:51:20 JenWagner -> 🙂
20:51:23 dc ->
20:51:25 doug -> heck, there’s a bunch o
20:51:26 Durff -> hide!
20:52:00 wowzer -> hello
20:52:05 doug -> oh, that one
20:52:06 JasonR -> I am filling it out twice
20:52:11 doug -> should we fill it out
20:52:12 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> put the form in the skype chat if you haven’t
20:52:12 Durff -> it was not 37 times
20:52:26 JM -> what participation thingy is
he talking about?
20:52:28 doug -> will do Cheryl
20:52:40 Durff -> i nominate dave
20:52:43 wowzer -> why are u guys flirting
20:52:45 JenWagner -> Sharon is patiently
waiting for STREAM A
20:52:52 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
-> i filled it out
20:52:57 cheryloakes on vacation but here!
19:41:30 gary -> Academy thing?
Most don’t have the time.
19:41:32 MizMercer -> I will say there are
more newbies on CR 2.0
19:41:36 JenM -> durff … exclusive BECAUSE
of you!!! 🙂
19:41:39 courosa -> i never saw it as
exclusive either you webcast snobs
19:41:51 Durff -> thanks jenm – i’ll get you!
19:41:52 MizMercer -> And I think Hargadon
is really good at holding newbies hands?
19:41:58 MizMercer -> You guys are great!
19:42:05 MizMercer -> BUT, he has a knack
19:42:14 dougsymington -> @gary whatta mean
most, who does? 😉
19:42:20 MizMercer -> This place has a more
hippie vibe too.
19:42:36 Durff -> you think?
19:42:41 MizMercer -> Since I’m in both
groups, I can speak to it?
19:42:46 gary -> You are right and I am
19:42:50 Durff -> i think so
19:42:56 courosa -> barriers to entry is
more than just site design though … it’s the bigger
19:42:57 JenM -> alice … aw shucks …
cyber hippies … all of us 🙂
19:43:02 Durff -> a retired hippie?
19:43:10 MizMercer -> Seriously, it’s why I
love you all!
19:43:16 Durff -> cyber hippies!
19:43:18 MizMercer -> Hargadon is pushing
19:43:20 courosa -> hargadon does to a great
19:43:25 MizMercer -> Yep!
19:43:26 dougsymington -> this is the most
open community you’ll find on the web (WB, ETT) that I’ve encountered
19:44:06 courosa -> if it’s good and
valuable for the time invested, people will enter through word of mouth
19:44:07 Sarah S -> This has got to be the
most accessible, vastly interesting, (and entertaining) applicable PD
place I’ve been to (not just EdTechWeekly, but all EdTechTalk webcasts).
19:44:07 stevemaher -> my participation is
lurking – does that count?
19:44:09 gary -> @durff – maybe
19:44:11 MizMercer -> You did a good job
with WebCast academy, but what if people are not at that level
19:44:22 Durff -> how else does one learn if
not by asking?
19:44:25 JohnS -> Thanks, Sarah 🙂
19:44:37 courosa -> and really, when you
think of how big you want this to be … what are the greatest hopes
for this place? what is the critical mass?
19:44:42 lorna -> newbie here – need a
buddie system – not just a mentor
19:44:43 dougsymington -> you also get more
out of this community that you contribute, but you need to contribute
19:45:00 MizMercer -> Maybe a listner
19:45:09 Durff -> we have a buddy system
19:45:24 chellouise -> Go webcast
academy! Even though I was a HORRID intern. I’ll
have to try again next time
19:45:29 MizMercer -> How about a matching
system for newbies with oldstres?
19:45:29 Durff -> so many buddies in here
right now got me through
19:45:34 courosa -> it’s partly about social
19:45:41 dougsymington -> and social capital
is being built and accrued in this community
19:45:43 chellouise -> Right, you get out of
a community what you put into it
19:45:44 lorna -> @MixMercer yes
19:45:49 MizMercer -> FEW people will do
Webcast academy, but NOT everyone needs to do that.
19:45:51 Cathy E -> I have had some new
folks join Making Connections the past several weeks
19:46:02 Cathy E -> I do hold hands
19:46:02 MizMercer -> Hey there is a vote
for matching newbies
19:46:03 Sarah S -> Some of it is learning
about the online ettiquette – that you actually can ask for help or
support and it’s not seen as bugging someone.
19:46:20 MizMercer -> It’s a great place for
pushy people like me
19:46:25 JohnS -> Anyone want to skype in?
19:46:27 dougsymington -> we all do re
holding hands–but they have to “help themselves” too
19:46:35 Durff -> i like it that way – it’s
always a challenge
19:46:35 lee baber -> Yes Doug
19:46:42 MizMercer -> I’m willing JS
19:46:47 Durff -> keeps engagement
19:46:50 dougsymington -> and it needs the
challenge to be worthwhile
19:46:50 courosa -> i like the idea of doing
this in a distributed manner
19:46:53 MizMercer -> DS yes
19:46:56 emichael -> I recently stumbled on
to this from itunes
19:46:58 dougsymington -> spoonfeeding ==
19:47:02 gary -> Overall – great experience
– I hate missing the conversation on Sunday
19:47:05 Durff -> yuckoo
19:47:06 chellouise -> AMEN Doug!
19:47:08 courosa -> not things happening IN
edtechtalk, but bringing things from the outside to edtech talk
19:47:12 JenM -> doug 🙂
19:47:19 courosa -> like when doug simulcast
19:47:23 chellouise -> I love the
conversations this all opens up
19:47:30 courosa -> or whatever i did
19:47:30 dougsymington -> lol
19:47:38 courosa -> i think that is the key,
people are doing their thing
19:47:42 dougsymington -> har matey–that’s
my pirate voice @courosa
19:47:50 courosa -> make edtechtalk a place
for original content AND a bit of a clearinghouse
19:47:56 lee baber -> group hug
19:48:02 JohnS -> yes, alec
19:48:07 emichael -> These shows make me
feel like i am on the cutting edge
19:48:11 chellouise -> thank lee, I feel
better now. All warm and fuzzy
19:48:13 lorna -> skype me in pls
19:48:17 courosa -> arrr … she’s driving
19:48:19 stevemaher -> It’s great, a
wonderful resource – great for a commuter. It fits the way I
19:48:28 Durff -> i’ll opt out of the group
hug and catch a cab to starbucks
19:48:30 JoseRodriguez -> ETT works for me.
19:48:39 lee baber -> oh durff
19:48:55 chellouise -> get me a tall hot
chocolate while you’re there, right
19:49:13 gary -> Many of the links that you
share are probably sent on to other teachers – the long tail goes a
19:49:22 courosa -> look at D’Arcy Normans
eduglu stuff … maybe there is something you can do to bring a lot
more stuff into this edtechtalk drupal install.
19:49:28 chellouise -> I’m with
you. Even though I am swamped I am still able to drop back in
when time allows
19:49:32 dougsymington -> @courosa agreed,
and that’s happening now, I think–I’m interested in “social justice”
as an example–which is a component (should be?) to ed tech
19:49:35 cgseibel -> this is my first visit,
thanks to courosa. I’ll be back.
19:49:49 Durff -> it was time intensive
19:50:05 emichael -> How can I join your
19:50:06 Durff -> only possible during the
summer for most of us
19:50:13 chellouise -> although my time
killed my webcast academy participation
19:50:33 courosa -> @doug … that would be
great you know. I’m always here to talk about technology specifically
… would love to see that example specifically (social justice) as
something we could talk about.
19:50:40 dougsymington -> @dave the lag will
let you complete prior to broadcast–update that is
19:51:05 courosa -> or anything else related
to or not … and put the tool back into its place
19:51:19 Durff -> alice is right – there was
the buddy system going on during the summer
19:51:20 JohnS -> emichael you can follow
edtechtalk on twitter
19:51:46 Durff -> copyright was one
19:51:51 dougsymington -> @courosa–couldn’t
agree more–need to use tools for good and model that. Need to get over
“look what I can do” for that to happen
19:51:56 Durff -> socialbookmarking i think
19:52:19 MizMercer ->
19:52:23 MizMercer -> list of topics.
19:52:25 courosa -> old hen, new hen
19:52:35 courosa -> never was teh greatest
image for me
19:52:40 MizMercer -> ALSO there are in
person meetings that a geographic.
19:52:42 courosa -> but the concept works
19:52:49 JoseRodriguez -> old chick, new
19:52:58 Durff -> dave!
19:52:59 MizMercer -> So I went to one at
S.F. and I’ll be at another in Palm Springs
19:53:02 Durff -> behave
19:53:05 courosa -> old dave, new dave
19:53:12 MizMercer -> NO WE ALL BELONG!
19:53:15 Durff -> one is enough
19:53:21 dougsymington -> lol
19:53:21 JenM -> lisa 😉
19:53:46 courosa -> agreed
19:53:59 Durff -> i still am
19:53:59 courosa -> maybe this “place” is
19:54:08 chellouise -> I will admit it’s a
little hard to “get in”
19:54:17 chellouise -> to the community that
19:54:30 courosa -> is there a bio/about
page that really explains the history … there maybe needs to be
something to explain “this” in an easier way.
19:54:41 MizMercer -> They don’t all work
19:54:43 courosa -> i could see that being a
19:54:51 Durff -> the cutting edge
19:54:53 dougsymington -> @courosa agree
again–we need more of an institutional memory
19:55:02 JenM -> @Alec … when you get that
written, route that around, please 🙂
19:55:23 emichael -> It is hard to keep up
with all of the changes
19:55:29 dougsymington -> @courosa–that’s
the first thing to learn re community–you propose, you own — thanks!
19:55:29 courosa -> well i came here as a
late visitor, i just kinda got here via twitter, and never left
19:55:41 emichael -> I listen to hear what
is up with the latest and greatest
19:55:46 courosa -> but we can’t expect
everyone else to stumble upon this place and find meaning.
19:55:51 dave -> yeah… we have to shove
courosa out the door at the end of every show
19:55:55 JohnS -> Right, Alec. But to
someone just coming in, you’ve always been here.
19:56:19 chellouise -> I realize that it’s
not the community though, it’s alot of me not being able to be more
19:56:23 courosa -> exactly John, and that’s
how I felt about the best of you.
19:56:24 MizMercer ->
19:56:28 MizMercer -> on technology
19:56:37 John on eeePC -> Oh, yeah, the eepc
is still here too
19:56:39 courosa -> that lack of history can
19:57:20 MizMercer -> Sure!
19:57:22 Durff -> uh?
19:57:29 MizMercer -> Jose/lisa you down
19:57:32 JoseRodriguez -> Sounds like an
19:57:36 chellouise -> macaroni is done and
kids are hungry. Thanks for the great conversation tonight
19:57:46 Cathy E -> Making Connections is an
intro show every week
19:57:48 courosa -> why not have an intro
show that just introduces all shows
19:57:49 Durff -> nite
19:57:50 MizMercer -> I think we have info
on how to tune in as a newbie
19:58:17 emichael -> Thats a great idea
19:58:18 Sarah S -> With the calendar and
the posted shows on the ETT page, anyone who wanders in can get a sense
of what is going on.
19:58:37 courosa -> or create an audio or
video that is just an intro … if you are new to this place, this is
what you see.
19:58:56 dougsymington -> intro rotation is
going to be cumbersome
19:59:02 Durff -> and what would the topic
19:59:13 MizMercer -> How about online
19:59:18 Cathy E -> Question- remember how
we use to be able to introduce the show on the site – then go back and
post audio Can we still do that?
19:59:21 MizMercer -> LIsa, online PD?
19:59:22 Durff -> youi get this jose/alice?
19:59:23 courosa -> i have no idea about any
of that still.
19:59:24 dougsymington -> proaly better for
a “coming up this week” spot on each
19:59:26 JoseRodriguez -> regular topic but
geared toward a newbie?
19:59:32 courosa -> i think just recordings
19:59:37 MizMercer -> Yeah Jose, that could
19:59:43 cgseibel -> I like Alec’s idea
about a welcome video
19:59:55 MizMercer -> Yeah! A screen cast
might be nice?
20:00:06 MizMercer -> Whaddya think Lisa/Jose
20:00:11 emichael -> Do you have an area on
the site with an overview?
20:00:13 Durff -> the screen cast queen!
20:00:15 MizMercer -> And readers need that
on your blog Doug!
20:00:19 courosa -> i just hit refresh a lot
20:00:20 MizMercer -> I mean DAVE! sorry
20:00:25 JoseRodriguez -> @Alice works for
20:00:42 JenM ->
20:00:43 Durff -> i think i like it , but do
i get it? probably not
20:00:51 JL -> http://worldbridges.net/help
20:00:56 dougsymington -> @miz was gonna say
–those expecting info on my blog are all set, for late 2006!
20:01:05 emichael -> I am so a year and a
20:01:09 JoseRodriguez -> @durff, just
pretend you do. Like me. lol
20:01:17 Durff -> ok
20:01:30 MizMercer -> Okay, but I’m thinking
this summer maybe May, June, or July we do a show on online PD and how
to use our show (and others)
20:01:42 Durff -> ok
20:01:47 MizMercer -> Jose?
20:01:53 Linda J -> Cathy is always really
good about sending me a private chat to make sure I am where I need to
be and can hear the stream…newbies just need to ask
20:02:02 JoseRodriguez -> It’s Elementary
Open House @durff @alice
20:02:03 MizMercer -> YEAH!
20:02:11 MizMercer -> YEAH! John!
20:02:18 Durff -> a la jose
20:02:30 courosa -> How about setting up an
introductory “package” for people who want to spread the word … i’d
be willing to talk to some teachers/colleagues about this place.
20:02:43 Durff -> edtechweekly goes first
20:02:47 MizMercer -> And I have an idea,
let’s talk about it at CR 2.0?
20:02:54 MizMercer -> Kumbaya!
20:03:01 courosa -> but all i can really do
is invite people in, i know very little about the whole community.
20:03:05 JohnS ->
20:03:09 courosa -> like a recruiter
package. or something.
20:03:21 Durff -> yes we could copy!
20:03:21 dougsymington -> cumbersome only in
that newbies will never get there–it has to be async (ala screeencast)
so avail. “just in time” for newbies, as an example
20:03:22 MizMercer -> I want to do a PD at
my district soon on this topic
20:03:26 JoseRodriguez -> WOW did something
also during k12Online
20:03:32 courosa -> 1.2 million dollars is
my going rate.
20:03:36 Sarah S -> Yes please! Intro
package – I keep dropping links to shows in my grad classes and for the
other staff at my hs. That would be fabulous.
20:03:38 JohnS -> Right, Jose.
20:03:40 courosa -> but will recruit for
20:03:48 JohnS -> Actually, I think most of
the people here did something for k12
20:03:55 dougsymington -> recursion
20:03:56 JenM -> @alec … that sounds a bit
20:04:01 dougsymington -> woohoo
20:04:04 JoseRodriguez -> true @john
20:04:06 JenM -> maybe if we get our grant
20:04:21 MizMercer -> Yes, or things may die
20:04:28 courosa -> and that was my earlier
question … what is the desired critical mass?
20:04:33 Sarah S -> @MizMercer – if you make
a slideshare or something for your PD, perhaps you could share?
20:04:37 MizMercer -> You need new members
20:04:54 MizMercer -> Yeah, I’m going to
have this and CR 2.0 etc.
20:05:10 MizMercer -> YES WE DO!
20:05:25 MizMercer -> LOLLOLOL
20:05:27 courosa -> i’d like to push it in
the sense that it gives teachers a great opportunity for PD
20:05:34 JoseRodriguez -> Encourage
20:05:51 MizMercer -> Hey, I thinking I’ll
do it in May when my fellow teachers are DESPERATE for PD hours
20:05:52 Durff -> we have had europeans too
20:05:55 gary -> If you ever have been
involved in a webcast that has many more participants than this one you
know it can become chaotic.
20:05:56 Durff -> australia
20:05:56 MizMercer -> before they get a pay
20:06:03 Durff -> south america
20:06:10 Durff -> U.K.\
20:06:31 Durff -> it’s the time thing that
gets in their way
20:06:34 courosa -> agreed … the front
page doesn’t tell the story.
20:06:35 MizMercer -> More visual?
20:06:49 MizMercer -> a VoiceThread, or a
20:06:52 JoseRodriguez -> A Flash page, nah
20:07:05 courosa -> say a page that has
short clippings from a number of shows
20:07:14 courosa -> 5 minute trailers/action
20:07:36 MizMercer -> Yep, how about just
adding a video on the front page, without changing the theme/layout?
20:07:43 MizMercer -> And intro?
20:07:51 MizMercer -> an intro?
20:08:26 JenM -> @dave … can’t wait to see
that next week!
20:09:05 Cathy E -> Do we still have a way
to put text in about a show – BEFORE the show?
20:09:15 Durff -> when you bring people in –
to which page do you bring them?
20:09:27 Durff -> the home? or this page?
20:09:31 courosa -> links: about edtechtalk,
sample conversations, how to contribute, how to participate … answers
to some key questions.
20:10:02 Durff -> i like the links at the
top at worldbridges
20:10:10 JL -> http://worldbridges.net/live
20:10:31 JoseRodriguez -> the Live Now needs
to be automatic.
20:10:42 courosa -> yes, just pieces of
20:11:18 Linda J -> Have a great evening!
20:11:29 JenM -> nite linda j
20:11:41 Cathy E -> Night Linda
20:11:43 JoseRodriguez -> goodnight
20:11:58 MizMercer -> I’ll put up with
20:12:00 MizMercer -> Thank you!
20:12:03 JoseRodriguez -> yep
20:12:04 MizMercer -> You’re right!
20:12:12 lee baber -> night
20:12:13 JenM -> @alice … highest
20:12:19 JoseRodriguez -> night lee
20:12:26 JoseRodriguez -> MySpace at ETT
20:12:33 MizMercer -> I’m easy (as I said
20:12:40 courosa -> my students have said
the same thing.
20:12:53 courosa -> difficult for a newbie
20:13:01 courosa -> more the procedure than
20:13:14 courosa -> agreed
20:13:30 Durff -> the webcasts are engaging
enough that people are determined enough to cause people to be
20:13:32 MizMercer -> And most podcasts have
the 3 buttons?
20:13:50 courosa -> jeff … do you have
stats on the distribution of people connecting via itunes vs. say real
20:13:58 MizMercer -> TOO many choices?
20:14:06 courosa -> paradox of choice
20:14:07 lorna -> yes jeff
20:14:13 JL -> maybe -let me check
20:14:21 courosa -> just push VLC if you are
going to use the streams
20:14:25 JoseRodriguez -> I like automatic
players like ustream, I agree
20:14:27 lorna -> I did a
screencast to explain how to link to a media player
20:14:43 MizMercer -> Alec, that will not
work with newbies
20:15:00 courosa -> you’re probably right
20:15:03 JoseRodriguez -> btw I lost ustream
audio about a min ago
20:15:10 JohnS -> Yes, Alec. But for new
people, we need it to work without having to install anything
20:15:14 JoseRodriguez -> I went back to ETT
20:15:28 MizMercer -> You guys are WONDERFUL!
20:15:34 courosa -> agreed
20:15:39 MizMercer -> You really are great.
20:15:47 Cathy E -> I ditto Doug
20:16:09 JoseRodriguez -> I xerox Doug
20:16:11 lee baber -> no..problem. cool
20:16:14 lee baber -> yes yes yes
20:16:15 JenM -> yeah, doug!
20:16:16 lee baber -> Go Dave
20:16:49 MizMercer -> Improve players, do an
openhouse show, tree the front page, have a matching service for
newbies, share this network when we do PD ourselves
20:17:02 lorna -> ditto
20:17:13 JenM -> @dave … can’t wait to see
what you come up with on that!
20:17:13 MizMercer -> I will look into doing
a screencast for our show?
20:17:22 JoseRodriguez ->
Goodnight. Well, I go contemplate next steps over dinner 🙂
20:17:36 JoseRodriguez -> night
20:17:37 MizMercer -> @everyone: does that
last one look like what we came up with?
20:17:47 MizMercer -> Improve players, do an
openhouse show, tree the front page, have a matching service for
newbies, share this network when we do PD ourselves
20:17:48 courosa -> wow dave that front page
that you are going to create with that dual, two-tiered redirect is
going to be wicked awesome!
20:18:11 da -> Thanks alec
20:18:14 da -> you’re very kind
20:18:16 MizMercer -> Bringing in new
people, and maintaing current members
20:18:34 courosa -> what is the vision?
20:18:55 lorna -> go lee
20:19:05 MizMercer -> A vision of working
collaborativly to discuss technology use in education
20:19:12 courosa -> as a newbie, and someone
who can be a part of this vision as a participant, i don’t know the
20:19:40 MizMercer -> with an emphasis on
open source, collaboration, and keeping it real
20:19:58 Durff -> oh no jeff is in charge
20:20:05 Durff -> El Jeff
20:21:14 lorna -> whatever you do
for edtech talk will be mirrored in all other shows
20:22:48 lorna -> lee is right
20:23:43 courosa -> open/naked sim
20:23:57 lorna -> pls be sure that you
record the meeting
20:24:31 dougsymington -> thanks all, great
20:24:39 Cathy E -> FYI- My schedule for the
next 2 weeks is hectic – I’M Packing
20:24:54 emichael -> I’m free
20:25:22 lorna -> nite all
20:25:36 courosa -> gnite all
20:25:38 emichael -> THanks!
20:25:47 JenM -> nite all
20:26:07 dougsymington -> take care all cya
20:27:40 Durff -> yawn…nite
20:29:01 randyn -> still here?
20:29:27 JL -> just wrapped up
20:29:42 randyn -> oh
20:29:57 lee baber -> JL
20:30:02 JL -> sorry we missed you
– recording should be up in a few hours
20:30:03 lee baber -> One question.
20:30:28 emichael -> I am interested in
joining a twitter group of school administrators. Any
thoughts on where or how to do this?
20:31:02 emichael -> Or ed tech – that would
20:31:03 lee baber -> i will email a bit
later Jeff. Good evening!