Terry Anderson – Athabasca University
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Terry Anderson, Professor and Canada Research Chair in Distance Education at Athabasca University dropped by tonight. We talked about distance ed, his time ‘back on the land’. We talked about where education might be going… and we talked about athabasca’s new EDD program starting (maybe) next year.. Besides being an all round big wig in education (see link above) Terry is involved in all kinds of educational projects, including an appearance at the upcomming Curverider conference. I had a great time.
18:50:52 dave-on-air: hey jen
18:50:56 JenW: hey dave
18:51:54 dave-on-air: how does the audio sound jen?
18:52:50 JenW: ahhh – not turned on yet
18:52:56 JenW: going over to skype
18:53:52 USSROVER: We just did a quickie 🙂
18:54:24 dave-on-air: tattle tale
18:54:25 Steve_K: Close enough 😀
18:54:28 USSROVER: DAve here is link http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx”
18:54:29 dave-on-air: ha
18:54:39 USSROVER: 🙂
18:54:57 JenW: skypecast sounds good
18:57:36 JenW: do you want me to tag team you???? using the chat in skype???
18:58:23 JenW: yeah right — back channel??
18:59:04 DanParkCityUT: Howdy Rover, Gang…
18:59:37 DanParkCityUT: Is green allowed for a guest here?
18:59:54 dave-on-air: oh yes
19:00:04 USSROVER: hi Dan
19:00:10 DanParkCityUT: AOK, first time visitor…
19:00:19 USSROVER: just finished up with VM stuff
19:00:21 JenW: hey dan — welcome
19:00:34 DanParkCityUT: Rover, you sure have been on the air a lot today ;0
19:00:47 DanParkCityUT: er… 😉
19:01:02 DanParkCityUT: Thank you Jen, glad to be here
19:01:15 USSROVER: yepper when I have something to say I say it load and often 🙂
19:01:54 DanParkCityUT: Yup, I knew that, it’s just been a while Rover…
19:02:06 USSROVER: 🙂
19:02:24 USSROVER: also going to give BLAIR a bad time as well
19:02:38 USSROVER: different show and chat
19:02:44 DanParkCityUT: Why is that not a surprise Rover lol
19:03:25 DanParkCityUT: Stream is coming in loud and clear
19:04:02 DanParkCityUT: Hi Sharon
19:04:04 JenW: jen waves to sharon
19:04:17 sharon_(eebee1): hello everyone from Montréal
19:04:47 dave-on-air: http://www.athabascau.ca/html/staff/academic/terrya.html
19:05:51 sharon_(eebee1): he sounds like he is talking underwater
19:05:59 sharon_(eebee1): dave is loud and clear
19:06:13 DanParkCityUT: Tried the link Dave, but Oh Well… I’m using FF
19:06:25 cathy_evanoff: I hear Dave
19:06:32 cathy_evanoff: Terry is in and out
19:06:45 DanParkCityUT: Agreed Cathy
19:06:45 sharon_(eebee1): I am using wireless too, but everything is loud and clear
19:06:53 sharon_(eebee1): yes, have read TIP
19:06:59 JenW: sharon — I think you break up when you use wireless and skype
19:07:04 JenW: and are chatting
19:07:12 JenW: but I am not sure 🙂
19:07:20 sharon_(eebee1): will have to see
19:07:31 sharon_(eebee1): have never had probs with both before
19:08:39 sharon_(eebee1): yes, many have done that in Canada
19:09:54 DanParkCityUT: Sharon.. OUCH
19:09:57 cathy_evanoff: IS she on wireless? She is in and out
19:10:04 sharon_(eebee1): okay will move to LAN
19:10:08 sharon_(eebee1): give me a sec
19:10:23 dave-on-air: book link?
19:10:33 JenW: brb
19:11:06 JenW: http://www.athabascau.ca/html/staff/academic/terrya.html
19:11:09 JenW: not sure which book
19:11:36 DanParkCityUT: Gottqa go light up the BBZ… have a great day all..
19:11:59 JenW: bye Dan
19:12:00 cathy_evanoff: Anderson, T. & Elloumni, F. (Eds.) (2004). Theory and Practice of Online Learning. Athabasca: Athabasca University Press. Available http://cde.athabascau.ca/online_book/
19:12:04 DanParkCityUT: er..”BBQ”
19:12:39 DanParkCityUT: G’nite all
19:12:48 USSROVER: later Dan
19:13:26 sharon_(eebee1): am back on LAN
19:14:08 sharon_(eebee1): eluminate is great – if expensive
19:16:22 JasonR: Greetings
19:16:40 JenW: http://www.elluminate.com/
19:17:01 sharon_(eebee1): I had a friend who says that BB now stands for “Black Ball”
19:17:23 JasonR: Little David
19:18:06 JasonR: They want your soft lumber
19:18:28 sharon_(eebee1): would be very interested in that too
19:19:58 sharon_(eebee1): things are changing quickly about that
19:20:18 sharon_(eebee1): however, there are still the conservatives who believe more in the traditional research approaches
19:20:57 sharon_(eebee1): My own thesis supervisor told me that other day that he had *never* read a blog and never intended to – this is an professor of educational technology!
19:21:38 sharon_(eebee1): this is while another prof on my thesis committee just rec”d a Cdn grant to study blogs
19:22:27 dave-on-air: hey harold
19:22:44 HaroldJarche: Hi 🙂
19:22:46 sharon_(eebee1): me neither – why he would refuse
19:22:53 sharon_(eebee1): would claim he is too olde
19:23:09 sharon_(eebee1): (don’t think he is much older than me!)
19:23:54 sharon_(eebee1): too late for new thesis supervisor – am submitting tomorrow…
19:24:10 dave-on-air: ha!
19:25:00 sharon_(eebee1): good job
19:25:26 sharon_(eebee1): final draft!
19:28:36 sharon_(eebee1): yes, I agree about being nothing but a pain – my IT director’s solution was to let me have my own server and host the moodle etc. – and they financially support that
19:28:47 sharon_(eebee1): nice compromise
19:29:13 sharon_(eebee1): that way I can be administrator with no middle man
19:29:27 sharon_(eebee1): yes, it implies a great deal of trust
19:30:46 dave-on-air: questions?
19:30:55 USSROVER: Dave -on-air request if possible
19:31:06 dave-on-air: ?
19:31:14 dave-on-air: request?
19:31:26 sharon_(eebee1): yes, am interested in his view on blended learning approach – what is its future in K-12 domain?
19:31:30 USSROVER: for thurs & Friday
19:32:04 USSROVER: play the recoding of our talk I’ll be on the road then
19:32:13 USSROVER: recording*
19:32:45 HaroldJarche: learning objects are based on premise of learning as content delivery – IMO wrong model
19:34:02 JenW: why?? because there is no way to prove they have really done the work? or what is the debate about it??
19:35:25 JasonR: Taking some online classes right now. It’s seems like it takes more work to do well.
19:35:39 JasonR: It seems, even
19:36:41 lee: Hello All
19:36:54 dave-on-air: hi lee
19:38:08 USSROVER: hi lee
19:38:18 sharon_(eebee1): yes
19:38:39 sharon_(eebee1): two questions
19:38:43 dave-on-air: more questions
19:38:46 dave-on-air: ?
19:39:19 sharon_(eebee1): yes, 2 questions – blended’s future, where PhD fits in
19:39:30 JasonR: Re: old masters holding on to knowledge…participated in this presentation today…http://www.simteach.com/wiki/index.php?title=Slcc06-robbins… Image Slippage: Navigating the Dichotomies of an Academic Identity in a Nonacademic Virtual World…think we will see more blurring of the role/line between teacher and student
19:40:11 sharon_(eebee1): stopwatches! wow! – lol
19:40:32 sharon_(eebee1): yes, not enough
19:40:49 sharon_(eebee1): how do I persuade my admin otherwise?
19:41:05 sharon_(eebee1): videoconferencing really must have focus
19:41:20 sharon_(eebee1): yes
19:41:23 lee: Will Gaming and Virtual Reality Worlds start being addressed more in the masters of distance of education
19:42:04 sharon_(eebee1): so you do see a bright future for blended?
19:42:40 lee: Gaming as an Educational tool..and virtual as an interactive tool
19:43:12 sharon_(eebee1): …. and the PhD at AThabasca?? I have a friend pushing Phoenix
19:43:17 JasonR: Dave…what?
19:43:23 dave-on-air: ?
19:43:27 dave-on-air: what what
19:43:34 sharon_(eebee1): blended = less than 50% online, more than half f2f
19:43:39 JasonR: hyperloberability? Something you said about IVC
19:43:51 JasonR: It was muffled
19:44:49 HaroldJarche: you mean there was a time before blended learning? Who ever felt that one modality was sufficient? p
19:44:51 dave-on-air: not sure
19:45:01 JasonR: And the presenter had nice pink hair too 🙂
19:46:41 lee: and wings
19:46:46 JasonR: Today’s conference was the first time I thought of SL as a tool and not as a toy. Really started to think about meaningful lessons that could benefit from SL interactions. More at http://www.simteach.com/wiki/index.php?title=Abstracts_for_SLCC_06
19:46:54 sharon_(eebee1): purchase of island?? – only in Canada… 😉
19:47:46 cathy_evanoff: I love that idea- 8th grades will do great
19:48:14 sharon_(eebee1): what is blog url for Terry?
19:48:25 sharon_(eebee1): NRC of Canada?
19:48:31 JasonR: I met an 8th grade teacher from NY that wants to bring her class into SL. She is building a mini-Everglades to teach an environmental science lesson.
19:48:36 cathy_evanoff: I took my first building class in SL last night it was a great experience
19:49:13 JenW: http://elgg.net/terrya/weblog/
19:49:17 JenW: Terry’s blog
19:49:19 sharon_(eebee1): thanx
19:49:29 dave-on-air: ask for mic?
19:49:40 sharon_(eebee1): I thought SL = simulated learning, but turns out to be Second Life?
19:49:53 HaroldJarche: http://www.simteach.com/wiki/index.php?title=Top_20_Educational_Locations_in_Second_Life
19:50:08 sharon_(eebee1): Good ole Dewey
19:51:28 sharon_(eebee1): what is the spending for Cdns for education?
19:51:35 HaroldJarche: Nintendo spends $140 million on R&D
19:52:01 JasonR: Is there any way to teach lessons via Xbox Live? Does it even have that capacity? Curious.
19:52:26 JasonR: Videoconferencing is coming to the Xbox, I hear.
19:52:28 sharon_(eebee1): 300x less spending on education than health in Canada
19:52:40 sharon_(eebee1): Design-based research?
19:53:01 USSROVER: folks I’m fading been up too long with very little sleep so later all
19:53:09 sharon_(eebee1): my understanding is that AR is under the umbrella of DBR
19:53:15 JenW: go rest ussr — we will see you later!!!
19:53:28 dave-on-air: cheers
19:53:39 sharon_(eebee1): later USSR
19:53:57 USSROVER: dave if you can play our conversations thrus & friday show Thurs for sure
19:54:02 sharon_(eebee1): frankly, I think Design-based R is the way to go
19:54:04 dave-on-air: k
19:54:09 USSROVER: thanks
19:54:19 JasonR: action research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_research
19:54:58 JasonR: I get nothing for DBR in Wikipedia. Anyone?
19:55:01 sharon_(eebee1): is there literature to support that distinction? Have not seen it
19:55:37 sharon_(eebee1): I have some lit for Design-based research
19:55:55 sharon_(eebee1): loved it too
19:56:14 cathy_evanoff: Have to run- will listen to the rest when posted 🙂
19:56:22 JenW: good night Cathy
19:56:31 JenW: and have a good night too
19:56:35 lee: Interesting, Terry..
19:56:39 cathy_evanoff: night all
19:57:29 JenW: but what MAKES a wikipedia publishable — who decides this??
19:57:38 dave-on-air: community
19:57:43 dave-on-air: there’s guidelines
19:57:43 JenW: perhaps WE should become wikipedians
19:57:44 JasonR: The absence of anything else in its class
19:58:02 lee: hooray
19:58:05 dave-on-air: http://cider.athabascau.cqa
19:58:06 lee: tis tru
19:58:08 terry_anderson: cider.athabascau.ca
19:58:28 JasonR: http://cider.athabascau.ca/
19:59:07 lee: I have been talking with UMUC about the MDE program
19:59:13 lee: so this has been great Terry
19:59:16 HaroldJarche: last word on blended learning http://www.experiencedesignernetwork.com/archives/000493.html
19:59:33 lee: I am now going to be looking at your Univ. as well
19:59:38 sharon_(eebee1): wall-dropping = blended learning approach for those who can still meet f2f
19:59:49 JasonR: Especially in context of the US, and the obsession over standardized testing…
20:00:25 lee: yes
20:00:30 JenM: Could Terry please mention the latest on the mLearn 2006 conf. coming up this fall?
20:00:55 frances: can you repeat the fellow’s name again that you are referring to from europe re: learning networks
20:01:40 lee: Yes, as the personal guidance saves alot of time when learning skills or applications
20:01:43 frances: thanks!
20:02:05 dave-on-air: http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/8/2/5/koper.html
20:02:17 dave-on-air: http://www.iel.nl/rkp.htm
20:02:19 lee: The in person guidance..that is
20:02:27 JasonR: http://www.mlearn2006.org/ ?
20:04:16 HaroldJarche: Timu http://flosse.dicole.org/
20:05:33 frances: yeah — that was just great
20:05:40 sharon_(eebee1): That was serious OUCh
20:05:42 JenW: is CIDER for everyone??
20:05:43 JenM: Thank you! Enjoy following Terry’s work!
20:05:57 sharon_(eebee1): Thank Terry – would love to keep in touch
20:06:01 JasonR: Thank you.
20:06:09 terry_anderson: Yes, we except everyone as an honarary Canadian in CIDER
20:06:15 JenW: ahhhhh — thank you
20:06:33 JenW: I shall enjoy my dual cyber-citizenship
20:06:54 scott: nice job of chat hosting – Dave C!!
20:07:21 sharon_(eebee1): yes, good job, Dave
20:07:35 JenM: Nice job. “see” you all later!
20:07:48 dave-on-air: http://www.rent-a-tutor.com/myvideopodcast/
20:07:59 JenW: lol is this safe to click on
20:08:11 frances: yes – that is marian from germany
20:08:31 JenW: me too
20:08:31 frances: he does skypecasts also about using skype casts
20:08:58 scott: *choochoo*
20:09:06 dave-on-air: ask for microphone
20:10:29 lee: its php u idot was the exact quote from myvideopodcast in my window
20:11:02 scott: “Those who can’t – teach others how not to”
20:11:19 lee: nice scott
20:11:27 lee: 🙂
20:11:29 JasonR: Yeah, keeping that one Scott
20:11:36 scott: ’twas a cartoon panel in the latest New Yorker magazine
20:12:35 lee: unmute myvideopodcast
20:12:50 dave-on-air: no such person
20:13:01 lee: How is UMUC for a MDE?
20:13:47 dave-on-air: cde.athabascau.ca
20:14:09 lee: new2mac….can you unmute him
20:14:11 dave-on-air: http://cde.athabascau.ca
20:15:43 JasonR: And is the EED taught all via Distance Learning?
20:16:12 HaroldJarche: g’night john boy
20:16:12 frances: yes – thanks very much Terry
20:16:27 frances: and Dave for putting us together! thanks
20:16:38 sharon_(eebee1): great job Dave and Terry!
20:16:41 JasonR: thanks
20:16:41 scott: where will the podcast be made available from this Skypecast??
20:16:49 lee: thanks Terry
20:16:55 new2mac: thanks terry
20:16:56 lee: very cool
20:17:04 dave-on-air: ha
20:17:07 dave-on-air: edtechtalk.com
20:17:41 new2mac: gaggle of geese
20:17:42 JenW: that is scarey
20:18:06 new2mac: its the archive in mp3?
20:18:22 frances: thanks and bye
20:18:26 dave-on-air: mp3
20:18:30 dave-on-air: https://edtechtalk.net
20:18:48 lee: cheers Dave
20:18:51 lee: thanks
20:19:44 JasonR: i can hear you on the stream btw
20:20:10 new2mac: cool man
20:20:19 new2mac: created by nicecast?
20:21:06 new2mac: terry, regarding the wiki, its up to the individuals/groups to do it
20:23:15 lee: That is a good thing
20:24:30 new2mac: yes it sure is
20:25:43 dave-on-air: what is created by nicecast?
20:25:43 new2mac: on the right re channels 1-4 is it the same thing on diffrent bitrates or different feeds
20:26:01 new2mac: dave,the archive
20:26:14 dave-on-air: i record it on audacity
20:26:19 new2mac: ah..
20:26:24 new2mac: mac or pc?
20:26:32 dave-on-air: today… pc
20:26:37 dave-on-air: on mac, i guess i use nicecast
20:26:44 new2mac: 🙂
20:27:33 new2mac: good to see you guys using skypecast tech for edu purposes, it will take time to pick up
20:29:46 new2mac: ok lee, dave got to go. thanks again for the show and keep up the wonderful work
20:30:08 dave-on-air: cheers
20:30:39 new2mac: the link earlier has the ability to feed visuals/webpages for the audience
20:30:59 lee: See you later and thanks for coming new2mac
20:31:01 lee: gotta run