Women of Web 2.0 Show # 64

Show #64, Join Sharon, Kathy and Cheryl as we have a great conversation with Chris Lehemann and Arthus.

 20:42:55  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi–I forgot who the guests are tonight. 🙁

 20:44:15  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Let me see…Chris Lehmann is back for round 2

 20:44:27  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus for a student perspective

 20:44:44  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Talk about edutrends – hence Horizon Report

 20:45:01  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Oh that’s great–Arthus has had a busy day posting on twitter today 🙂

 20:45:35  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: So glad Chris is back!

 20:45:35  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I noticed, his fingers must be fatigued but he should be ready to talk!

 20:45:58  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yes!

 20:47:22  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl!

 20:48:13  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello, getting ready

 20:48:53  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl 🙂

 20:49:42  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for your twitter response about Arthus as guest 🙂

 20:50:18  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: OO she’s scooping me via twitter!

 20:51:23  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes 🙂 sorry I forgot the @Cheryl

 20:51:42  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL

 20:52:09  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello, how is sound

 20:52:16  sine -> -EdTechTalk: How will this be streamed?

 20:52:20  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Sound is great!

 20:52:30  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks alice,

 20:52:47  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Sound coming through great on iTunes

 20:52:58  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: sine, you can pick up the stream though itunes or windows media and real player

 20:53:08  sine -> -EdTechTalk: got it!  thanks

 20:53:12  sine -> -EdTechTalk: no ustream?

 20:53:16  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Loud and clear?

 20:53:21  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: arthus are you on skype?

 20:53:25  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Loud and clear!

 20:53:30  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: no ustream, have’n’t tried that yet

 20:53:34  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: yes I am

 20:53:37  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: arthus.erea

 20:53:57  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HAHAHA

 20:54:03  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yup

 20:54:04  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Don’t go Chris

 20:56:00  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: HAHAHAHA

 20:56:07  chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: We’ve lost Arthus.

 20:56:50  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello all, we are 2 min. to show time

 20:57:34  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Snow Day tomorrow cheryl?

 20:57:42  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I can tell this is going to be a fun, lively conversation!! 🙂

 20:57:46  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: only delay i think

 20:57:58  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Sunny and 75 degrees in Phoenix AZ

 20:58:08  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I’m Jeal

 20:58:23  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome maria in show

 20:58:24  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: snow

 20:58:47  randyn -> -EdTechTalk: did anyone here join in for Making Connections tonight?

 21:00:03  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: No I missed making connections–went to the TappedIn web 2.0 conversation

 21:00:15  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I think they wer in SL tonight

 21:00:16  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hello colleen

 21:00:25  randyn -> -EdTechTalk: ok, i didnt join in, they were, so I couldn’t join in

 21:00:28  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Is that Maria Knee?

 21:00:35  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: yes it is – howdy!

 21:00:45  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: LOL…good to see you here!

 21:00:54  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Maria!!

 21:01:03  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: You hero

 21:01:22  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @colleen how’s my hair?:?

 21:01:38  emapey -> -EdTechTalk: Hi all

 21:01:48  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: your hair?

 21:01:54  ColleenK -> -EdTechTalk: Your real hair looks great…not so sure about your avatar.

 21:01:54  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: no problem –

 21:02:01  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hehe

 21:02:16  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes-thank you Maria! I’ve already listened to it twice 🙂

 21:02:22  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy – it’s a SL thing

 21:02:26  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Feeling any better, Maria? I think we have the same flu

 21:02:27  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: ahhh

 21:03:17  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: i’m doing a bit better – thanks to good pills!

 21:03:41  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: @sharon – must be an online virus!

 21:04:28  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey @czautcke!

 21:04:58  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.makebeliefscomix.com

 21:05:01  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: hey I recognize some names in the room from last night! Welcome

 21:05:44  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://web.mac.com/simon_elliott/[email protected]

 21:06:01  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I have my XO, but want to put ubuntu on it…

 21:06:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.educationfutures.com/2008/02/21/digital-media-and-learning-competition-winners/

 21:06:06  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://techpsych.blogspot.com   Karen Janowski

 21:06:23  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.epalscorp.com/about/news/press_feb_08_B.html

 21:06:43  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Here is Vicki’s http://mashable.com/2008/02/16/forget-powerpoint-online-presentations/

 21:06:52  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: I hope I have the spaces in the right places

 21:06:52  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://jlerman.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/personal-learning-networks-personal-and-community-focused/

 21:07:51  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Last night’s parents as partners was great!

 21:08:02  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for plug Sharon!!!  It was great speaking with you last nite!

 21:08:03  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: http://web.mac.com/simon_elliott/[email protected]/Home.html

 21:08:25  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Did you many parents?

 21:08:37  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: have many parents?

 21:08:38  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: we had 2 parents with us

 21:08:41  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @czautcke was involved in Parents as Partners last nite as well…

 21:08:51  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG-thanks for props!

 21:08:53  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What was the focus?

 21:09:05  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Hello!

 21:09:20  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: connecting parents with the classroom using tehnology

 21:09:31  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy-not totally certain…Alec Corousa and his students were in the chat room for parents as partners

 21:09:39  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hi @lorna!

 21:09:41  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: will it be weekly? and is it for a specific school district

 21:09:43  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: hi matt

 21:09:48  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Steve, Susan, Pam, Peggy, Melinda, Matt, Maria in snow, lorna, linda, jmsd18, emapey, cazutcke, colleen, chellouise, arthus, and alice!

 21:09:54  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome durff

 21:09:58  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Hi cheryl

 21:09:59  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: and helping parents learn about internet safety including suggestions for providing parent workshops on this

 21:10:02  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hi cherly

 21:10:02  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: bi weekly not a school board initiative

 21:10:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Durff, coffee in hand?

 21:10:12  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: vcheryl can’t type

 21:10:18  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: call that cab!

 21:10:19  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @lorna great idea

 21:10:27  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: coffee & cookies

 21:10:36  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: in a cab

 21:10:39  lorna -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy thanks

 21:10:42  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: aqlliteration!

 21:10:51  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: how can we be talking while american idol is on?  LOL!

 21:10:53  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: welcome!

 21:10:58  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I know Arthus loves his Mac 🙂

 21:11:00  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nice Durff, it will keep us on our fingers!

 21:11:04  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: and don’t let us forget the debates

 21:11:31  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i want to see id!

 21:11:32  sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: What are your interests outside computers???

 21:11:39  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: passport?

 21:11:54  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: birth certificate?

 21:11:56  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: lost audio

 21:12:09  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: hey kidd

 21:12:14  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Can’t believe I made it here…

 21:12:16  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: back

 21:12:17  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Everyone

 21:12:18  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Karen, your website was one of my wows!

 21:12:20  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: @maria it’s the snow

 21:12:27  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: great to be back on Edtechtalk..

 21:12:29  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks @cheryl!

 21:12:35  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: do teachers use presentation tools to enhance lectures?

 21:12:36  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome tkidd, rozansdm1, hi KarenJan

 21:12:38  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: we are going tohave power trouble tonight

 21:12:41  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: want to check out yoru blog Karen!

 21:12:46  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Good to see you here arthus…:)

 21:12:51  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wow-sign up months in advance 🙁

 21:12:53  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: no spontaneous access for teachers and learners…that is an issue

 21:12:57  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: hello tkidd from maria in NH

 21:12:58  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: glad you are back tkidd

 21:13:02  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Kathy has a great question about parent participation

 21:13:04  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Sarah

 21:13:05  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: the lab model is questionable

 21:13:07  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: gotta finish lesson plans while i listen…

 21:13:11  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes…I have missed alot…

 21:13:15  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @Arthus – does your school offer wireless?

 21:13:24  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: we have same issues…our lab is scheduled out weeks in advance

 21:13:30  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: anybody else having trouble with sound being soft?

 21:13:33  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: @durff Same problem here!

 21:13:40  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Is there a life outside of computers 🙂

 21:13:42  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: sound?

 21:13:48  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: there’s sound?

 21:13:50  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – especially check out my most popular post – a link on the right side, it’s filled with free tools for Universal Design for Learning for all kinds of learners

 21:14:01  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I have been working on a ComputerFair Project which was today….And I won….3rd place.Under Multimedia Section….

 21:14:03  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: 🙂

 21:14:04  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: oh, brenda, go to the participation live, look for itunes or real player

 21:14:11  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: so if something comes up in the class and a teacher wants students to do a little simulation or web reference, that isn’t possible in a lab model

 21:14:15  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda click on a channel at the right

 21:14:37  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @tkidd what was your project?

 21:14:38  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: then you can hear the discussion

 21:14:47  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Web 2.0 Tools

 21:14:53  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: i wonder what his parents would think if they understood

 21:14:54  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: will do Karen – thanks – am looking for resources for the Qu?©bec LEARN website

 21:14:56  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What did you use?

 21:15:06  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: is Arthus experience at school paper based?  Heavily?

 21:15:08  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I would say its fair…Jen

 21:16:08  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Mr.Lehmann…..Hows it going…

 21:16:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @tkidd, what was the topic of your project?  Is it posted can we view it?

 21:16:21  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: read an interesting editorial in THE Journal about teaching to the test

 21:16:40  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: great point Arthus! testing seems to drive so much of what is done in schools

 21:16:43  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I have not posted it yet but i will……I haven’t had the chance yet….

 21:17:06  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: ok, no porbelm, I will look forward to seeing it when it’s up

 21:17:10  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: how can we move to a classroom experience that is less reliant upon paper?

 21:17:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: can’t type

 21:17:23  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes…..I am quiet sure you are……lolz….

 21:17:27  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: is the sound louder for you chellouise?

 21:17:55  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @mattmontagne – paper based is an obstacle for many kids with disabilities – we have to make the curriculum accessible for them!

 21:18:01  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: a little bit.  It could be a little bit because of the competition with American Idol.  LOL

 21:18:12  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: thank you!

 21:18:19  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hm, how is the leader doing on AI?

 21:18:28  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: thanks for the help cheryl!

 21:18:36  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @KarenJan – I agree…I think it crushes students who have organizational issues as well…

 21:18:37  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: sure brendad

 21:18:40  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: brenda

 21:18:41  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: if we start with the reality that our curriculums are the disability and not the kids we will be at a better place

 21:18:54  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl it’s the boys tonight.  So far I like Shakeezee (sp?)

 21:18:55  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: absolutely1

 21:19:07  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: ok, back on topic!  LOL

 21:19:11  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Derrallg

 21:19:17  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Matt

 21:19:48  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: ARthus–how did you become so "wise" at your young age??

 21:19:49  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I agree…we’re afraid of making mistakes…when did this happen?

 21:20:01  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Amen Mr. Leha

 21:20:03  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: wow great stuff from Chris

 21:20:06  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: Lehaman

 21:20:17  Durff -> -EdTechTalk: aarg – really can’t type

 21:20:18  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: you are a very astute young man

 21:20:26  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @matt happened right after the first mistake that got dragged to an admin

 21:20:59  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: my admin doesn’t under stand "free range" learning

 21:21:21  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: @chrislehman – i just ran for school committe in my town and was told i had the voters attention for 15 seconds! ….the 15 seconds before they went into the voting booth

 21:21:24  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda…I think you got that one right…

 21:21:57  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: freee range learning?  who coined that term?

 21:22:19  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: don’t know I just came up w/ it right now…. i think 🙂

 21:22:20  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i like open source learning!

 21:22:24  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: what is free range learning?  is it like free range grazing?

 21:22:28  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: lol

 21:22:34  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: sorry that was uncalled for…

 21:22:42  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: how about if we call it accessible learning? that way it is accessible to all learners despite their learning challenges. read/write web offers incredible options

 21:22:48  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: :_

 21:22:52  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: open source learning AND teaching…I love that concept!

 21:22:54  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: oops! 

 21:22:56  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yes much like free range grazing you learn what you want until you’re full

 21:23:08  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @brenda  GREAT comeback!

 21:23:13  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: yes….Yes…Great Point There!!

 21:23:18  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus

 21:23:19  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Wonder how much twitter affects those bite-size bits??

 21:23:57  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: I’m not entirely sure bite-size is bad

 21:24:04  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: or at least for some things

 21:24:07  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: change state standards into sound bites great

 21:24:19  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: amen! @derrallg

 21:24:24  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: well……

 21:24:40  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Brian!

 21:24:41  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Maybe they could save those sound bytes on their ipod and replay them while they sleep 🙂

 21:24:46  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg-I heard about the school budget funding crisis in CA…is that really going to happen??

 21:24:51  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: my sound bite when i ran for school committe was "the name of my town deserves an educator!"

 21:24:56  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: he actually suggested that too!

 21:25:05  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nice Karen

 21:25:07  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes, lets not talk about it 🙁

 21:25:15  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Hi everyone!!!

 21:25:25  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: hi bcrosby!

 21:25:28  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrallg-sorry to bring that up…I just read about it and was thinking of u

 21:25:37  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello brian, how is your school year?

 21:25:50  maria in snow -> -EdTechTalk: test bites

 21:25:54  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt i’m okay its others I’m worried about

 21:26:16  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yeah test bites!

 21:26:18  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes So far so good –

 21:26:26  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: yes…

 21:26:34  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Good school nutrition tastie bites of wholesome learning!

 21:26:48  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: my skyping student is doing well in his 2 skype classes, we are starting with another in a couple weeks.

 21:26:58  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus – are many of your circle of friends from your school deeply online?

 21:27:00  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: good one kathy

 21:27:05  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello lloydcrew

 21:27:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: LOL

 21:27:20  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hey, @lloydcrew – this is late for you!

 21:27:22  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: at Arthus…do you learn more inside of school, or outside of school?

 21:27:24  lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: howdy

 21:27:57  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus – that is are your unique in VT or is your experience common at w/ your peers

 21:28:04  lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: yes, I’ll see how long I last!

 21:28:09  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello Susan

 21:28:12  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @Arthus  do your teachers do any extra 2.0 projects for you outside of class to enhance the curriculum?

 21:28:15  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: evening SusanE!

 21:28:18  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hi everyone

 21:28:24  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: hi Susan

 21:28:25  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: VT? VoiceThread or vermont?

 21:28:26  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: Hi, susan

 21:28:36  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: @ Chrislehmann- Is there a Link to that blog?

 21:28:40  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: hi Susan

 21:28:44  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: VT = Vermont

 21:28:45  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: it’s amazing how late it can get when you stay at school until 6!

 21:29:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: i c

 21:29:21  chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupaled/E10C

 21:29:33  chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.scienceleadership.org/drupaled/E10D

 21:29:34  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you very much 🙂

 21:29:43  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What in the world are you doing until 6?  Waiting for traffic to subside?

 21:30:08  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: lol trying to stay out of the dog house…;)

 21:30:34  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: 🙂

 21:30:38  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: not you susan!

 21:30:59  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: has anyone seen Two Million Minutes or the trailer at YouTube?

 21:31:02  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Is this Sharron Peters Speaking…

 21:31:09  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: the person before

 21:31:09  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: a parent passed that along to me today

 21:31:11  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yes

 21:31:19  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: one of our students is working on a "quality of life" project and asked me to take the survey today that asked if you are a better teacher if your students do better on the tests

 21:31:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yes 2 million but didn’t watch it all wadya think?

 21:31:24  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: chrisL speaking now

 21:31:27  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: I missed 2 million minutes at FETC.  It sure sounded good though

 21:31:30  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I can’t paste the URL to Two Million Minutes

 21:31:34  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: teach to Bloom not to the test

 21:31:38  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: long

 21:31:39  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: ok…I asked because she said she was canadian…I was like….oh…

 21:31:41  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I know

 21:31:44  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy…haven’t seen it…just trailer

 21:31:46  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Got the point early on

 21:31:47  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Except the tests have many issues – many biases

 21:32:00  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: is the video online?

 21:32:08  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: testing companies love the tests…big, big business

 21:32:14  KarenJan -> -EdTechTalk: good night  all – husband and I have to have "The Talk" about next year’s plans with my son who is a senior. he just got home from play practice

 21:32:21  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: the classic was a friend whose son didn’t know about 4 legs on a bed… they had futons in a small nyc apt

 21:32:22  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @chellouise…just the trailer at YouTube

 21:32:25  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: nite karen

 21:32:30  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Its a bell curve … if everybody does well then the scores stay the same

 21:32:35  alicebarr -> -EdTechTalk: Bye Karen

 21:32:36  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: nighty karenj

 21:32:36  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: thanks matt

 21:32:53  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: My son is a freshman in college

 21:32:53  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Outstanding point, Chris!

 21:33:01  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: great thoughts Chris!

 21:33:03  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Great point, Chris…

 21:33:12  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: are you compassionate and active!!! 

 21:33:17  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: do we need to measure that?

 21:33:18  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Preparing kids for 2000 days in their lives and not just the 2 days of testing!

 21:33:29  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: do you think that this is also affecting the idea of integrity among students – more cheating?

 21:33:31  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: use PBL to measure it!  WHY do we HAVE to measure it?

 21:33:43  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: PBL???

 21:33:50  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Yes, folks but the testing barn door is already open and it will not be closed. It is a pipe dream to think we are going back anytime soon.

 21:34:03  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: proect based learning instead of regurgiation of facts

 21:34:06  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Longitutidanl studies instead of testing…love that idea!

 21:34:16  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes

 21:34:27  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: WE COULD use performance-based assessments but that is not what is being used with NCLB

 21:34:28  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hi blutz welcome

 21:34:30  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: PBL – was why I was aksing questions – Project based learning

 21:34:49  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: So we just took the 5th grade CRT tests to test to see if my students learned what they are supposed to learn in fifth grade … UMMMM there’s still 4 months of the school year left … do you think we might still teach them something in that 4 months???

 21:34:55  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: so we need to change NCLB?  LOL!!!!!!

 21:34:59  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: would love to see longitudinal studies on PBL

 21:35:00  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Will NCLB go away after the Bush Admin is done? Or is that here to stay for a while?

 21:35:08  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB will be tweeked by the winner in Nov 2008, but it will not go away

 21:35:11  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: YEs!!!! change NCLB!

 21:35:32  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp  that would be good

 21:35:44  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: lol

 21:35:48  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hello  BLutz..

 21:36:00  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: maybe if we could show that it makes thinkers and learners…….nah, too good to be true

 21:36:01  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Arthus.

 21:36:01  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello hockeymom!

 21:36:03  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: too take nclb away the new pres would have to be willing to defend "so you want to leave students behind?"

 21:36:07  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: hows it going

 21:36:07  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: could it be student-teacher ratio? Having advisories

 21:36:12  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB has been hard on the arts I think…the arts are such an essential opportunity for young people

 21:36:27  chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.tinyurl.com/ypffvg

 21:36:28  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB needs to be fixed also for ELL learners makes good districts look bad

 21:36:31  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: our motto here in Qu?©bec is "Success for all"

 21:36:36  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: NCLB has been hard on everything BUT reading, writing and math

 21:36:55  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Science is coming next!

 21:36:57  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: true, derrall, ELL, and SPED students don’t look good in the data

 21:36:59  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: gotta go put the twins in bed  BRB

 21:37:04  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: true matt – i teach music and so far at my school they’ve been supportive of keeping me in the building and active w/ the kids

 21:37:11  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: hi the kyleguy! The Shareski show must be over!

 21:37:11  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – Success For All is a very conteversial reading program here!!! : )

 21:37:22  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: I think i saw most of you students …Mr.Lehmann

 21:37:32  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: schools are a creative business

 21:37:33  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: yep, hi all. Just checking in. Who is your guest tonight?

 21:37:33  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Art and music are asked to adopt an anchor

 21:37:44  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrsoby – wonder if it is related??

 21:37:48  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: and economies of scale don’t apply to creative businesses

 21:37:51  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: schools should be a creative business! I agree Arthus

 21:37:54  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Well arthus..not all of them….

 21:38:03  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: small school model is a very good one…

 21:38:07  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: they should…

 21:38:09  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Guests Arthus and ChrisLehmann

 21:38:14  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello cindy

 21:38:24  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – very scripted – teachers are rated down if they go off scrpt.

 21:38:28  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: Hi – just left my class with Alec Couros

 21:38:41  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Cindy S!

 21:38:56  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Matt – just sent you a link – direct Twitter

 21:39:00  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrosby – I would find ti hard to believe that they are related, but I should google it to find out

 21:39:01  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: welcome cindy

 21:39:06  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hi alex r

 21:39:10  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hi alex!

 21:39:14  alexr -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl and Susan

 21:39:23  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – I doubt they’re related

 21:39:23  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: tonight Chris Lehmann and Arthus are our guests.

 21:39:31  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Tuesday nights are just filled with back to back PD opportunities

 21:39:45  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Remember the show will be a po dcast by the end of the week.The chat will be available too.

 21:40:36  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: good issues to raise arthus.

 21:40:41  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Glad you have all made it to the show!

 21:41:22  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I’ve always felt we don’t give students enough credit for the things they’ve learned outside of school

 21:41:28  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: FYI, there are 7, 746, 428 people on skype this evening.

 21:41:31  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: true

 21:41:39  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I feel as thought those things sometimes aren’t valued as much

 21:41:45  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Closet users with secret identities

 21:42:05  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thats a great point Kathy…

 21:42:14  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy S-surfing that DM link right now…thanks for passing it my way.

 21:42:28  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: some of the ppl in athletics in hs have that size of a network even back in the good old days

 21:42:38  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I agree about contacts

 21:42:50  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: I switched this week from having my students blog to mainly creative writing kinds of posts to blogging about what they are learning … we fell on our faces – facts were wrong … wrong conclusions – great learning experience … yesterday and today we re-visited and looked at some of their posts … already vast improvement!!!

 21:42:56  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: good pt. on the friends semantics piece arthus

 21:43:14  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @bcrosby very rewarding

 21:43:18  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: Some people have different networks. For instance I follow many folks who are Montreal Canadian enthusiasts

 21:43:19  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: hahahaha

 21:43:20  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: great brian, reflection! summarize, edit

 21:43:23  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Just was contacted by a childhood buddy via facebook yesterday…haven’t seen him in 20 years!

 21:43:35  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: brian – are your students’ blog post open for hte world to see ?? Am looking for best practice student blogs…

 21:43:36  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: cool!

 21:44:05  jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: is studicious still alive and well?

 21:44:06  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @thekyleguy – are you stalking those Habs fans or are you on their side ??

 21:44:07  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp http://classblogmeister.com/blog.php?blogger_id=65078

 21:44:20  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello Jeff

 21:44:26  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Brian!!

 21:44:27  jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: hello

 21:44:39  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: It doesn’t have to be facebook – I had to laugh was working with a student who was talking about her website and I said oh I’d love to see it and she hesitated and teh other girl said um no too personal!

 21:44:48  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: we were talking about php!

 21:44:53  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – My students 80%+ students of poverty, 60%+ second language learners.

 21:44:55  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I can top that…I went to ASL(american school in london) 30 years ago and they still have me in the alumni database and I was contacted by an old friend! yah, i’m old!

 21:44:58  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I was able to share one of my twitter contacts with a former elementary student of mine today on facebook– 🙂 He’s currently attending George Washington U

 21:45:17  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Good point on inch deep Chris

 21:45:45  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @brian – WOW! And you have given them a chance to have a voice! Can’t wait to read more closely

 21:45:48  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I think it’s really great to meet on the basis of shared interests

 21:46:07  jmsd18 -> -EdTechTalk: Arthus – do you think students would use blogs, etc to express their voice to decision makers, given the chance?

 21:46:38  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: RSS has been an incredible discovery for me this year…

 21:46:57  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I really want to get RSS passed along to the students that I work with

 21:47:01  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: I’d like to see some Google Reader become assigned shared reading along with that summer book

 21:47:03  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: I was contacted through an online site from a woman in Norway that I was in grade 4 with – and I’m not telling how long ago that was!

 21:47:04  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp – look at the posts from last week when we had a scare that we might not be able to blog anymore – the school district accidently blocked our blog  for one day – and my students blogged about what blogging means to them.

 21:47:34  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: that’s great bsrosby

 21:47:42  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: bcrosby sorry

 21:47:43  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Susan what a great idea!

 21:47:46  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @cindy…re-connecting is so much fun!

 21:48:02  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sharonp also I blogged about it and gave examples:http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=412

 21:48:06  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @Cindy that’s amazing!

 21:48:25  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=412

 21:48:26  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: Is your school paper – both news and literary online?

 21:48:26  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: but decision makers aren’t reading those blogs….how do we get them there?

 21:49:07  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Chris Lehmann, you might be interested in this graphic in light of what you just said

 21:49:11  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: http://www.mtl-peters.net/rolecompetencyqep.jpg

 21:49:12  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: how do you all find the TIME to blog?  I want to…

 21:49:32  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: "In America you can say what you want, but be careful what you say." I think that was a quote by Ice Cube

 21:49:47  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @chellouise just keep it small at first- you don’t have to write a book for each entry

 21:49:48  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: I can’t usually listen in on Tuesday nights – this is nice.

 21:49:53  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: chellouise, think of it as time to reflect, which we do, but you are sharing your reflections into conversations

 21:50:08  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: good point Arthus!

 21:50:17  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: those are good ideas ladies. thanks!

 21:50:25  jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: do you see a difference between your social network and your learning network?

 21:50:35  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i like that it is not the tool, but the network behind the tool

 21:50:47  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Thats a good question…Jeff

 21:50:53  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @jeff – yes and in some ways i like them seperate

 21:50:55  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: That is such a good point about using the tool where your friends are to express opinions such as political opinions–tool doesn’t really matter

 21:51:05  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl  That’s what I’m having kind of a hard time developing…

 21:51:40  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: finding time to network like I want to, and fulfilling all my other duties….overwhelming!

 21:51:48  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Start small, maybe you would like podcasts instead. A quick audio/verbal reflection. That is how I started.

 21:51:49  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: One thing that I think is challenging is to show students how to turn all this networking into action to make the world a better place.

 21:51:51  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Twitter is pretty much a professional networking tool for me…starting to use Facebook more, but just for fun

 21:52:31  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Dr. Cheri, welcome!

 21:52:38  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: HI Cheri!!

 21:52:40  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Cheryl!!!

 21:52:41  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: hmmmm….contemplative podcast  That’s an idea to ponder

 21:52:48  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @matt – I agree! So much learning/sharing happening on Twitter if you follow the right people 🙂 I do!

 21:52:48  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Sharon – woo hoo

 21:52:51  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Just play Enya

 21:52:57  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Walk or ride your bike to school!!! Yeah!!!

 21:53:12  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Chellouise, I started with short 3 min. podcasts to my students, then parents, then blogging

 21:53:19  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: hey matt aren’t you in Wisc?

 21:53:22  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: ok, son is pestering me to finish up his eye therapy.  Thanks for the good conversation tonight

 21:53:24  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I love riding bike to work…but winter this year has been rough

 21:53:31  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @susan…yes, in Wisc

 21:53:35  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Where are the role models for kids to "relax"?

 21:53:40  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Professional collaboration time needs to be valued – we just don’t get to do it … its a waste of a potentially very valuable resource.

 21:53:42  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: rough winter for a bike communter

 21:53:46  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryl Thanks for the food for thought

 21:53:55  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: night chellouise

 21:53:57  chellouise -> -EdTechTalk: Good night all!

 21:54:04  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: night chell

 21:54:09  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: teachers need to be modeling reflection in front of and with the kids

 21:54:16  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: good to see administrative leadership using alternative transportation

 21:54:32  sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG – absolutely true – and how many of us do that??

 21:54:39  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @PeggyG good point

 21:54:47  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: siesta!!!

 21:54:49  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: WE have to do it if we say we value it

 21:54:59  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy right on

 21:55:06  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: "You will care about the quality of your work…"

 21:55:31  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: "You will care about each other’s welfare"

 21:55:40  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: school calendars…great question!

 21:55:48  lloydcrew -> -EdTechTalk: naptime was my favorite thing in kindergarten!

 21:55:50  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: year round schools…

 21:56:00  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I think that needs to be talked about

 21:56:01  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: YES

 21:56:05  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: i think so matt, i would love year round

 21:56:15  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: 10 month calendar over 12 months

 21:56:17  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: I would stop the nonsense of cleaning out a room just to start over again in Sept

 21:56:18  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Yes I like that ‘out there’ question Cheryl

 21:56:26  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: something like 9 weeks on, 3 weeks off with a longer 6 week summer.

 21:56:33  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: 200 day calendar spread out over 12 months

 21:56:39  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that makes sense to me

 21:56:44  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: hey my kids do go help w/ the harvest- no joke!

 21:56:46  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Why put it all away if you just have to get it all out again?

 21:56:53  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yeahh, that would be good 200 days,

 21:56:56  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt yes

 21:57:00  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: kids and teachers are brain dead for the 1st month we’re back

 21:57:02  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: how about cycles and teachers are on and off

 21:57:07  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: calendars are like requiring all 5-year olds to enter Kdg and then to progress through the grades one year at a time–very artificial structures

 21:57:10  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: in Maine we harvest blueberries and potatoes

 21:57:23  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: lol @ cheryl

 21:57:38  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Pay me to do another month … month and a half and build in maore field trips, art experiences, music,

 21:57:38  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: we’re corn, wheat soybeans out in IL

 21:57:39  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: kids start school in August, have a month off to harvest

 21:57:48  Sarah S -> -EdTechTalk: We harvest tourists too . . kids work in service industry

 21:57:58  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: yes Sarah, good point.

 21:58:09  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I would love 3 weeks off in October/early Nov

 21:58:20  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: there are models like what Chris talks about here in Milwaukee

 21:58:30  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I was at a school that had 2 weeks in October and I loved it

 21:58:39  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: September/October … the best weather of the year.

 21:58:42  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: calendar is a systems issue…needs to be fixed

 21:58:47  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yes my sis-in law went to Coloado Coll

 21:58:55  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: she loved that model!

 21:58:56  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: unless of course Brian, it is March skiing!:-)

 21:59:05  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: National University in California does the same – classes meet 4 times a week for 4 weeks

 21:59:09  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: hello James

 21:59:25  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Way back in the 70’s I taught in a school where kids were enrolled in school on their actual birthday–not in August and all at the same time–very interesting concept because they didn’t advance by age but by assessed learning–hard to explain

 21:59:26  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: plus she knew if she hated a class it would all be over soon

 21:59:28  James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Hi

 21:59:43  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: or perhaps a 9 montho calendar, with Dec-Feb on holiday so wisconsin teachers could go south

 21:59:43  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @cheryloakes … We could build in a ski week!

 21:59:45  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: interesting Peggy, was it in the US?

 21:59:54  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Yes–Massachusetts

 21:59:55  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: @peggyg that sounds really interesting….

 21:59:56  jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: The start date in florida is set by the tourist industry .students can’t start back to school to early because the staff the theme parks (FL)

 22:00:06  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: It is a needed shift that U.S. education needs to make – away from wide and shallow to deep learning

 22:00:08  jeffmason -> -EdTechTalk: too

 22:00:12  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What about a ski week of physics learning?

 22:00:14  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: good point

 22:00:24  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: going to start winding down.

 22:00:28  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Immersing yourself would be great if the teacher had the depth and breadth of knowledge to make connections across subjects or brought in experts who would help do that

 22:00:32  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: What about a week of camping to study environmental

 22:00:51  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: I want to go environmental

 22:00:55  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @linda – how about a team approach, especially in high school

 22:01:03  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: There were some things that were good in the "good old days" 🙂

 22:01:08  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: The only value of short periods according to my son is to end the boredom of one class

 22:01:14  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: just changed to green

 22:01:19  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: plus we could avoid student overload in that kind of model

 22:01:20  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: I think team building and REAl project based learning takes building real relationships

 22:01:20  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: for enviro slant

 22:01:22  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Many of my students parents are being laid off from the casinos right now which is typical here … many used to travel to Mexico for 4 to 5 weeks … don’t now because of fear about getting back.

 22:01:28  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: you don’t have to know it all, just help students learn to teach themselves and collaborate

 22:01:29  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: 🙂

 22:01:31  chrislehmann -> -EdTechTalk: linda — I agree…

 22:01:33  James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk:  part of the problem with schools is a curriculum that is too wide and too shallow.

 22:01:38  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt go green

 22:01:50  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @derrall…I’m working on it!

 22:01:54  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for your time in the chat room! Another great show. You make the chat room come alive.

 22:02:03  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: Casinos are in trouble?

 22:02:11  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks to Arthus and Chris for their time!

 22:02:13  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I think the whole way curriculum is organized around subject areas is one of the problems

 22:02:25  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: I agree Peggy

 22:02:45  stevesoko -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Arthus, thanks Chris!

 22:02:56  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: good questions to wrap up on

 22:03:05  James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: You go Arthus.  Great job!

 22:03:12  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: http://enviroscims.wikispaces.com/Earth+Day   Earth Day 2008 Webcast!  Please consider  participating

 22:03:15  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: well, they don’t need to be learning from the edublogosphere

 22:03:16  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: My university students that I taught for several courses at a time would get confused about which course we were in because I kept overlapping content (that’s the way I live it)

 22:03:19  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sendcathy – no … this time of year in Reno ski season is winding down … weather keeps tourists from Bay Area away … will rehire in spring

 22:03:35  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: oh its a cycle

 22:03:40  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy – where do you teach?

 22:03:47  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: Good perspective to share Arthus, thanks

 22:03:55  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Lots of great conversation tonight!! thanks Arthus and Chris!

 22:03:57  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: great job everyone!

 22:04:01  brenda_muench -> -EdTechTalk: yay vicki is coming to ICE!!!

 22:04:03  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: @sendcathy – exactly

 22:04:05  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: enjoyed the conversation!

 22:04:08  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: thanks everyone

 22:04:09  Cindy Seibel -> -EdTechTalk: thanks very much Chris and Arthus – goodnight

 22:04:16  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I just retired but I taught at ARizona State University-west campus

 22:04:17  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: @arthus ever heard of the movie Rushmore? by Wes Anderson

 22:04:22  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: Yes..Arthus You Rock!! Mr.Lehmann.Great Job!:)

 22:04:23  James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: Wow, Palm Springs.  It’s freezing here.

 22:04:29  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: thank you chris and arthus – thanks WOW!

 22:04:34  matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Chris and Arthus…well done

 22:04:35  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks Arthus and Chris L

 22:04:40  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy – I interviewed there in 2002 🙂

 22:04:42  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy No, I never have

 22:04:44  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: My teaching was in a PDS school setting that was based in public school classrooms

 22:04:47  lindanitsche -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you Arthus and Chris- Great discussions and ideas to ponder!

 22:04:52  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy – now I’m at Illinois State

 22:04:56  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: @sendkathy is that the same director as Bottle Rocket

 22:04:56  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: This was a very interesting ….

 22:04:58  cheryloakes wow2.0 -> -EdTechTalk: thanks to you all, see you next week! Doug Johnson and Joyce Valenza

 22:05:01  bcrosby -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Chris and Arthus!!!

 22:05:12  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: @CheriT-WOW-wish you had been hired!!

 22:05:14  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: yes, and very offbeat funny

 22:05:22  derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thanks WOW2

 22:05:25  arthus -> -EdTechTalk: thank you all, wish there was more time to talk, goodnight! 🙂

 22:05:30  SusanEttenheim -> -EdTechTalk: nite

 22:05:33  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: @Peggy – I would have like the weather better 🙂

 22:05:34  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I’ve been looking forward to Joyce V for months 🙂

 22:05:35  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: night

 22:05:37  thekyleguy -> -EdTechTalk: thanks & g’night

 22:05:41  CheriT -> -EdTechTalk: Joyce is great!!

 22:05:43  James Sigler -> -EdTechTalk: goodnight

 22:05:46  tkidd132 -> -EdTechTalk: No Problem Arthus….I agree

 22:05:48  PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Night all!

 22:06:05  sendkathy -> -EdTechTalk: See you next week.


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