Show #124 Online Education for Dummies with Susan Manning and Kevin Johnson

Women of Web 3  #124 Online Education for Dummies with Susan Manning and Kevin Johnson

This was a wonderful conversation with the co-authors of "Online Education for Dummies," Susan Manning and Kevin Johnson. Due to some technical difficulties with the stream on EdTechTalk, we hosted this session on Elluminate which gave us an opportunity to see some of their online resources and book excerpts as they shared some of their best tips and advice about online education. We were also able to involve participants in a brainstorming session on the whiteboard about criteria for a successful online experience. You can listen to the audio recording on EdTechTalk or view the full Elluminate recording here . Their website has excerpts from their book including a wonderful "cheat sheet" to help students decide if online education is for them.: The cheat sheet provides tips for evaluating online programs and habits of successful online students among other suggestions.

Link to full Elluminate recording of this session:


Chat: May 2, 2010 

00:14 – Peggy George 

takes a second to get the recording started πŸ™‚ 

00:21 – Susan Manning 

Kevin do you have that photo? 

00:25 – Susan Manning 

of dummies book cover

00:29 – Peggy George 

I’m very excited to hear from Susan and Kevin!! 

00:46 – Peggy George 

I got to hear their interview with Steve Hargadon on Future of Education and it was outstanding! 

01:07 – Susan Manning 

I’m glad you got to hear that, Peggy! 

01:09 – Susan Manning 


01:21 – Peggy George 

even listened to it twice πŸ™‚ 

01:53 – Kevin Johnson 

02:57 – Peggy George 

love that!! caught the fire!! πŸ™‚ 

03:19 – Susan Manning 

03:28 – Susan Manning 

he was 5 

03:57 – Peggy George 

Welcome Maureen and Jen–so glad you found us! 

04:01 – Sharon Peters 

LOL, really? 

04:12 – cheri.toledo 

that’s great 

04:21 – Peggy George 

online learning has opened so many possibilities!! 

04:48 – Peggy George 

what a great story!! 

05:35 – Peggy George 

isn’t that such a wonderful thing that you can co-teach with people from anywhere??!! 

05:42 – Kevin Johnson 

06:00 – Peggy George 

feel free to bring anything up in web tour you would like 

06:10 – Kevin Johnson 

Good evening Jen, Maureen, mslaneeus, and Nick 

 06:20 – mslaneeus 

Good evening. 

 06:31 – Peggy George 

Welcome Nick!! 

06:49 – Sharon Peters 

Hi Nick, great to have you with us tonight 

06:56 – cheri.toledo 

Yea, he made it 

07:47 – Sharon Peters 

I am taking an online course right now – to get me ready to teach the IB programme at my new school; and I also have some questions about motivation and dealing with online inertia…. 

08:02 – Peggy George 

are any of them open courses that anyone can participate in? 

08:13 – cheri.toledo 


08:29 – Susan Manning 

08:51 – Sharon Peters 

Yeah, I have some questions about online courses that such institutions such as MIT sponsor…. 

08:55 – Susan Manning 

The UW Stout courses are for credit and cost.  The ION courses also cost, but if you’re a member school, it is significantly decreased. 

09:47 – Peggy George 

thanks Susan 

10:06 – Sharon Peters 

It depends on the teacher… 

10:06 – Peggy George 

great answer–it depends πŸ™‚ 

10:35 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

Good question… personally I like blended courses better than just online. I like to actually meet people f2f once in a while. 

11:10 – Peggy George 

@Maureen–many people think that is the best alternative–blended learning with both online and f2f 

11:28 – cheri.toledo 

@Maureen – the synchronous tools can give you that blended experience 

12:02 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

@Peggy- I do learn a lot from online courses, but really feel more connected when I have a chance to actually meet the people involved 

12:11 – Peggy George 

they were just talking about accreditation for online courses tonight in EdTechWeekly πŸ™‚ 

12:35 – Peggy George 

Hi Joyce! So glad you found us!! 

12:49 – Kevin Johnson 

Hi Joyce 

14:21 – cheri.toledo 

Yes, I’ve heard that too 

14:30 – Peggy George 

yes that happens so often with online courses and webinars! 

14:55 – Peggy George 

someone in the room said only seat time or university hours count for their re-certification 

15:07 – Peggy George 

Welcome seani!! 

15:39 – Peggy George 

good way to describe it–getting a little messy out there πŸ™‚ 

17:15 – Peggy George 

17:18 – cheri.toledo 

@Peggy – let’s put up a whiteboard 

17:37 – Peggy George 

you’ve got it πŸ™‚ 

17:59 – Peggy George 

this will be a fun variation for WOW 3! 

19:47 – Peggy George 

great list!! thanks everyone!! 

20:06 – Peggy George 

now it’s your turn Susan and Kevin!! 

20:36 – Peggy George 

student to student work is so important–not all learning comes from the instructor! 

20:51 – Peggy George 

yes MEDIA!! and so much easier to share it online πŸ™‚ 

21:34 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

How about making sure the instructor keeps up with the work as well… I took a course where the instructor rarely commented, and got behind 

21:41 – Peggy George 

great points Susan!! 

21:45 – Kevin Johnson 

21:48 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

Yes, presence is so important 

21:49 – Peggy George 

is this in your book???? πŸ™‚ 

22:29 – Susan Manning 

It is kind of in the book, but subtly….if you read between the lines we say this is what makes an awesome course 

22:51 – Susan Manning 

the book is really written for adults who have to take courses and don’t have a clue 

23:09 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

How about multiple ways to complete the assignments? 

23:11 – Kevin Johnson 

Another great resource: 

23:15 – Kevin Johnson 

23:18 – Peggy George 

tell us more about why someone interested in online courses should read your book πŸ™‚ 

25:23 – Peggy George 

25:30 – Sharon Peters 

Excellent advice! 

25:43 – Peggy George 

I love the Dummies books!! Great way to learn!! 

26:00 – Sharon Peters 

How pertinent do you think your book could be for educators and learners in developing nations? Do you think it could cross cultures? 

26:12 – Peggy George 

you can go straight to what you need and don’t have to read the entire book!! 

27:08 – Peggy George 

great strategy to read the book from the student perspective to evaluate it 

27:34 – cheri.toledo 

Would the principles in the book transfer to other learning delivery; e.g., mobile learning 

28:11 – Peggy George 

Moodle now has a mobile learning app πŸ™‚ 

28:15 – mslaneeus 

Is this book meant for online students in the U.S.?  Or is there information for Canadian students too? 

28:21 – Peggy George 

thanks for joining us seani! 

31:22 – Peggy George 

that’s very exciting information! 

32:21 – Peggy George 

good point about the opportunity to get their education from the US if that is what they want-regardless of where they live! 

34:22 – Peggy George 

so Kevin–I was doing it at the same time 

34:29 – Peggy George 


34:39 – Peggy George 

very helpful to see these pages πŸ™‚ 

35:18 – Peggy George 

what a great guide!! 

35:52 – Peggy George 

36:17 – Peggy George 

great suggestion!! πŸ™‚ 

38:10 – Peggy George 

these are such great tips!! I have grandkids who are considering online courses and they really need to read this!! they do have a lot of misconceptions about it 

38:24 – mslaneeus 

Whoops.  That resonated.  I am definitely a wallflower with these web presentations… 

38:31 – Peggy George 


38:49 – cheri.toledo 

I’m usually a lurker too πŸ™‚ 

38:54 – Peggy George 

that’s the good thing though mslaneeus!! it’s ok to be a lurker until you’re comfortable jumping in πŸ™‚ 

39:10 – Peggy George 

there should be alternatives for different learning styles 

39:41 – mslaneeus 

It’s intimidating.  Everyone knows each other…you feel as though you are interrupting a conversation among friends. 

39:45 – mslaneeus 

Up to me to get over that. 

40:03 – Peggy George 

that is so true!! they work to the deadline so you can’t get a conversation going 

40:29 – Sharon Peters 

So important, I agree 

40:34 – Peggy George 

good strategy Nick! 

41:08 – Peggy George 

there’s definitely a difference between quantity of posts and quality of posts 

41:22 – Sharon Peters 

the online course I am taking is a bit frustrating right now…. too much info to read and not enough ways to engage with it, plus inertia on the part of the course participants 

42:05 – Sharon Peters 

no discussion right now! 

43:20 – Peggy George 

what kind of accountability do you have for the required reading Sharon? 

43:51 – Sharon Peters 


44:01 – Peggy George 

love it!!! 

44:59 – Peggy George 

good example for us to talk about Sharon 

45:33 – Susan Manning 

Theinstructor needs to create assignments that ask you to put it into prtactice 

45:39 – Susan Manning 

use it or lose it 

45:52 – Peggy George 

are you encouraged to contribute to a forum in the class Sharon? 

46:01 – Sharon Peters 

Yes, Peggy 

46:09 – Peggy George 

does anyone do it? 

46:11 – Susan Manning 

and there’s a lot of evidence that unless we design courses that require a "do" activity, just absorbing information doesn’t create lasting change 

46:36 – Susan Manning 

so I would encourage him to create application assignments that are then shared in smaller teams for peer review and feedback 

46:38 – Peggy George 

for sure, Susan!! they will do the minimum they need to do to earn the credit 

46:52 – Sharon Peters 

cool idea 

47:12 – cheri.toledo 

47:22 – cheri.toledo 

Here’s an article I wrote about asking good questions 

47:26 – Sharon Peters 

Thanks for that 

47:32 – Peggy George 

thanks Cheri! 

47:33 – Susan Manning 

as a student, I would beg the instructor to reconsider communication 

47:53 – Susan Manning 

oh, for sure! 

48:22 – Susan Manning 

I call that whispering 

48:27 – Peggy George 


48:30 – Susan Manning 

which is half the art of facilitation 

48:59 – Peggy George 

we have about 5 minutes remaing–want to share WOWs of Week? 

49:05 – Peggy George 


49:09 – cheri.toledo 

ONe more question 

49:12 – Peggy George 


49:20 – cheri.toledo 

we started late πŸ™‚ 

49:38 – Sharon Peters 


49:42 – Peggy George 

love to hear about rumors like that!! 

49:52 – Peggy George 

Technology Tool Belt for Teachers πŸ™‚ 

49:58 – cheri.toledo 

technology toolbelt for teachers 

50:29 – Peggy George 

what a great idea!! almost like the FAQ sections of online courses!! 

50:51 – Sharon Peters 

am so glad that we got to use Elluminate tonight 

50:51 – Peggy George 

wonderful conversation!!! thank you so much Susan and Kevin!! 

51:56 – Peggy George 

oh yes πŸ™‚ 

52:03 – cheri.toledo 


52:11 – cheri.toledo 

love the odds 

53:11 – Peggy George 

woo hoo! Congratulations Nick!! 

53:13 – Sharon Peters 

how much fun! 

53:20 – Peggy George 

when are you going to put it on Kindle??? 

53:24 – Kevin Johnson 

[email protected] 

53:40 – Nick Toledo 1 

thank you 

53:40 – Peggy George 

didn’t see it there 

53:51 – cheri.toledo 


53:54 – Sharon Peters 

how cool, I have a Kindle, this could be useful for me to bring to Africa 

53:58 – Peggy George 

great to know 

54:40 – Peggy George 

we can share our WOWs in web tour πŸ™‚ 

54:51 – cheri.toledo 

55:10 – Peggy George 

stop/pause the sound πŸ™‚ 

55:12 – Kevin Johnson 


55:37 – Peggy George 

56:14 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

Wow- looks great- thanks Peggy 

56:53 – Kevin Johnson 

57:04 – Peggy George 

58:01 – Susan Manning 

wow, this is going to keep me busy! 

58:09 – Peggy George 

58:25 – cheri.toledo 

Susan and Kevin – thanks again!!! 

58:26 – Peggy George 

definitely!! isn’t this fun??~~ 

58:31 – cheri.toledo 

We need to meet up again πŸ™‚ 

58:54 – Peggy George 

that’s so exciting for the SLA students!!! 

59:05 – Peggy George 

thrilled to see the recording posted! 

59:47 – Susan Manning 

thank YOU! 

59:52 – Kevin Johnson 

Thank You!!! 

59:53 – Kevin Johnson 


59:55 – Peggy George 

wonderful!!! so great to have you with us tonight Susan and Kevin!! 

1:00:00 – Maureen (bcdtech) 

thank you 

1:00:05 – Peggy George 

this worked great!!! 

1:00:10 – Susan Manning 

I had a blast..thank you for having us! 

1:00:20 – Peggy George 

thank you Maureen and mslaneeus and Nick for joining us!!! 

1:00:26 – mslaneeus 

Thank you. 

1:00:27 – cheri.toledo 

Thanks everyone!! 

1:00:33 – Peggy George 

I’ll post the link to the recording on ETT πŸ™‚ 

1:00:40 – Susan Manning 

Good night 

1:00:42 – Peggy George 

good night everyone! 

Cheri Toledo, Kevin Johnson, Online Learning, Peggy George, Susan Manning, education

Women of the Web 3.0 #121 Silvia Tolisano

Sharon Peters, Cheri Toledo and Peggy George had an energizing, delightful conversation with one of our favorite people, Silvia Tolisano (Langwitches) in this webcast. We had a wonderful conversation about Skype in the Classroom and her global projects. Her newest project is "Around the World in 80 Schools" and she has created a Ning network for teachers interested in participating in the project to collaborate and learn from each other. There are some fantastic resources on her blog about using Skype including job descriptions for students managing all of the various Skype tasks, and some excellent classroom posters that can be downloaded and printed explaining all of the literacy skills students are using for podcasting, blogging, wikis and other tools involved with the global projects. Thanks to Sharon’s newly developed streaming skills we were able to stream most of the session on ustream so we could view some of Silvia’s resources for her student projects. Special thanks to Lorna Costantini for capturing the audio and streaming on Shoutcast for us! The ustream version starts about 10 minutes into the session but it is well worth watching.
A bonus in the session was Sharon’s announcement that she is taking a new position in Mozambique.


Chat log


20:24:13 Peggy George -> Room 1: Hi everyone! Welcome! just doing a little setup


20:25:05 Peggy George -> Room 1: we’re trying something brave and new tonight–streaming on ustream as well as ETT-A
20:29:00 Peggy George -> Room 1: we’re trying to stream on ustream and ETT-A tonight
20:29:16 Peggy George -> Room 1: just getting the ustream stream going now–cross your fingers
20:31:26 Cheri -> Room 1: Hello mslaneeus 
20:31:36 mslaneeus -> Room 1: Hello.
20:31:58 Cheri -> Room 1: we’re having technical challenges, we’ll be up and running soon
20:32:25 mslaneeus -> Room 1: On U stream tonight?  Or on ‘A’ ?
20:33:10 Lorna -> Room 1: ETTA
20:33:18 Cheri -> Room 1: Ok, here we go
20:33:29 Cheri -> Room 1: Ed Tech Talk A
20:33:38 Peggy George -> Room 1: Greetings everyone!
20:34:12 Peggy George -> Room 1: the real Silvia Tolisano!! πŸ™‚
20:34:49 Peggy George -> Room 1: we’re very excited to have Silvia here to share with us tonight!!! I’m sure you know "Langwitches" πŸ™‚
20:35:30 spenn0103 -> Room 1: Hello, I’m a college student majoring in education. I’m new to webinars and am wondering if I should be clicking on anything, or if the images will start themselves?
20:35:42 Peggy George -> Room 1:  This is her blog
20:35:52 Lorna -> Room 1: choose  media player icon top right
20:35:59 Lorna -> Room 1: edtechtalk a
20:36:05 Peggy George -> Room 1: isn’t it incredible how far we’ve come with technology in such a short time??
20:36:30 Cheri -> Room 1: @spenn0103 – we’re just broadcasting audio – so click on the EdTechTalk A icon (of your choice) in the upper right of the screen
20:36:37 Peggy George -> Room 1:
20:37:32 Peggy George -> Room 1: Silvia is going to talk with us about her project: Around the World with 80 Schools
20:37:55 Peggy George -> Room 1: let us know if you see the ustream
20:38:44 Peggy George -> Room 1: she has such amazing projects!!!
20:38:48 Sheila -> Room 1: Ustream is off air.
20:38:54 Peggy George -> Room 1: makes me wish I were a kid again!!
20:38:59 Cheri -> Room 1: @Sheila, thanks
20:39:22 Peggy George -> Room 1: the power of Skype!! πŸ™‚
20:40:03 Peggy George -> Room 1: look at all of the markers on the map on her Ning!! schools from around the world!!
20:40:22 Peggy George -> Room 1:
20:40:32 Peggy George -> Room 1: welcome everyone!! thanks for joining us!!
20:40:46 Peggy George -> Room 1: feel free to type questions in the chat for Silvia
20:41:09 Peggy George -> Room 1: 400 teachers and counting πŸ™‚ how exciting!!
20:41:21 Peggy George -> Room 1: a Ning makes so much sense to manage a project of this size!!
20:42:12 dmantz7 -> Room 1: Thanks for the ning address
20:42:35 Cheri -> Room 1: Amazing – how fun!
20:43:53 Peggy George -> Room 1: I would love to hear some stories about what the classes are skyping about
20:44:53 Peggy George -> Room 1: what a great way to begin to understand different cultures and the things they have in common!
20:45:09 matt montagne -> Room 1: I can’t help but believe that these kinds of learning opportunities help children build cultural literacies (and adults too!!!)
20:45:18 Peggy George -> Room 1: absolutely!!!
20:45:21 dmantz7 -> Room 1: I need to look and see if I can find some folks talk with my pre-service students at Sterling College about how they use IWB and Skype in class
20:45:27 Peggy George -> Room 1: snow balls for Florida πŸ™‚ love it!
20:45:46 Peggy George -> Room 1: foods are often different too but I think all kids love pizza
20:46:21 matt montagne -> Room 1: these kinds of converations get us thinking beyond our bubbles
20:47:03 Peggy George -> Room 1: isn’t that interesting about antarctica!!
20:47:10 matt montagne -> Room 1: what kind of data do you collect that isn’t necessarily found via google search??
20:47:41 Peggy George -> Room 1: those kids are so lucky to get to experience this!!
20:48:02 Peggy George -> Room 1: those time zones can be so challenging!!
20:48:28 Sheila -> Room 1: Bandwidth is for science in Antarctica. We struggled with that too.
20:48:50 matt montagne -> Room 1: for kids (and adults) to get the chance to learn about time zones around the world has important value as well
20:48:54 Peggy George -> Room 1: what was that link again Silvia? wikispaces?
20:49:50 tim -> Room 1: NZ says "good afternoon" πŸ™‚
20:50:59 Maureen -> Room 1: aroundtheworldwith80schoolsdotningdotcom
20:51:00 matt montagne -> Room 1: are these large group skype conversations leading to smaller, break-out conversations of any sort?? 
20:51:16 Peggy George -> Room 1: If you haven’t seen Silvia’s K12 online presentation be sure to watch it
20:53:00 Peggy again -> Room 1: keep getting logged out–ugh!
20:53:35 mslaneeus -> Room 1: @ Peggy…… too….
20:53:36 Peggy again -> Room 1:  you can try viewing the stream here if you’re brave πŸ™‚
20:54:07 Peggy again -> Room 1: Silvia’s wiki for the project
20:54:13 sarahjane -> Room 1: is the ustream the link to audio?
20:54:35 Peggy again -> Room 1:  this is the video from South Africa she mentioned
20:54:43 sarahjane -> Room 1: got it
20:55:18 Peggy again -> Room 1: great sarahjane!
20:55:26 matt montagne -> Room 1: can’t learn this kind of stuff from a social studies text
20:55:43 Peggy again -> Room 1: day light savings is always a challenge in AZ too!! we don’t observe it and our time doesn’t change
20:56:05 sheila -> Room 1:
20:56:15 Peggy again -> Room 1: Silvia’s blog is so incredible!! be sure to subscribe to it!!
20:56:15 mslaneeus -> Room 1: Time zones are a huge challenge for me.  Can’t connect to Europe because I’m in the Pacific time zone.
20:56:16 sheila -> Room 1: Here’s the ustream channel
20:56:35 Peggy again -> Room 1:  the Skype Jobs are the latest post
20:56:37 dmantz7 -> Room 1: Former Senator Bob Dole’s own tech support person did not know about Skype last year.  I explained it to him and then we were able to video interview Bob Dole about his childhood. Fantastic experience.
20:56:53 Peggy again -> Room 1: how interesting dmantz7!!
20:57:20 Peggy again -> Room 1: what a comprehensive project!!!
20:57:26 dgoodman -> Room 1: Great wiki!
20:57:32 Peggy again -> Room 1: just look at all of those jobs!!!
20:57:43 sheila -> Room 1: If people want to switch over to the ustream channel (you’ll get kicked out of the chat and will have to reenter). Here is the link: 
20:57:45 dmantz7 -> Room 1: Greatly appreciate the wiki access.
20:57:46 Peggy again -> Room 1: not like my elementary years–very different jobs!
20:57:51 Maureen -> Room 1: What grade did you say this was with Sylvia?
20:58:02 Peggy again -> Room 1:
20:59:43 Cheri -> Room 1: Amazing authentic experiences with the new literacies!
20:59:46 sheila -> Room 1: I so much enjoy listening in real time than the 30 sec delay. Thanks for using ustream.
21:00:01 Peggy again -> Room 1: look at all of the subject areas they are addressing!
21:00:18 Peggy again -> Room 1: grade 5 I think Maureen
21:00:26 Maureen -> Room 1: Thx Peggy
21:01:32 Peggy again -> Room 1:  can download the jobs chart here
21:01:49 Maureen -> Room 1: I signed up for this project last winter… have yet to be able to do it. Last year it was a bandwidth issue- this year it’s time… still really love the project and hope to get involved
21:02:20 Peggy again -> Room 1: I hope you can too Maureen! what an incredible learning experience for the students!! Maybe you can get another teacher in your school to join???
21:03:04 Maureen -> Room 1: Oh Peggy- you know that many teachers at my school think of tech as equivalent to a root canal
21:03:12 Peggy again -> Room 1:  try viewing the stream here so you can see what Sharon is showing us
21:03:49 Peggy again -> Room 1: I know Maureen–I’m an eternal optimist!!
21:04:31 Maureen -> Room 1: I know Peggy- your new job in retirement is a "bucket filler"
21:04:33 Peggy again -> Room 1: that really brings the learning to life!!
21:04:41 Peggy again -> Room 1: I love being a bucket filler!
21:04:56 Peggy again -> Room 1: they will never forget the skyping experiences!!
21:05:12 Peggy again -> Room 1: that may be the replacement for field trips that we can no longer afford!
21:05:45 Peggy again -> Room 1: don’t you love Silvia’s energy and enthusiasm!!!!
21:05:57 Peggy again -> Room 1: you can’t help but get excited about the ideas!
21:06:16 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Peggy  I believe we skyped with you last year when doing the 50 states project
21:06:33 Peggy again -> Room 1: that’s right!! I told your 5th graders about AZ πŸ™‚
21:06:36 dgoodman -> Room 1: We’ve also skyped an author and illustrator which was absolutely wonderful
21:06:42 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Peggy Yes!
21:06:53 Peggy again -> Room 1: kids love to talk to authors!! 
21:07:14 Peggy again -> Room 1: all kinds of snow balls in Florida!
21:07:27 dgoodman -> Room 1: I’d like to get some teachers on this project as well.  Maybe we can team with someone at Kelly’s school…only an hour from us
21:07:46 Peggy again -> Room 1: look at all of the questions emerging from the kids through these experiences! that’s real engagement!
21:07:59 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Kelly  Maybe the two of us can take on dentistry and do the root canals
21:08:04 matt montagne -> Room 1: very cool…I love the serendipity!
21:08:40 Peggy again -> Room 1: this is such a great point–they started with a script and then they couldn’t wait to continue the conversation completely on their own πŸ™‚
21:08:54 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Maureen….I meant you..don’t know here I got Kelly from
21:09:05 sheila -> Room 1: Great learning opportunities!
21:09:12 dgoodman -> Room 1: Yes….Peggy that is cool
21:09:19 Peggy again -> Room 1: funny Sharon!! but true-  not letting school get in the way of learning
21:09:25 Maureen -> Room 1: @dgoodman- are you really only an hour from me?
21:09:28 mslaneeus -> Room 1: First linking kids………next solving the world problems……..
21:09:47 dgoodman -> Room 1: no, an hour from Kelly
21:10:14 Peggy again -> Room 1: so true–don’t have to limit yourself to the same grade level for skype calls
21:10:21 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Maureen…I think I am about 5 hrs from you but maybe we can team up some way here
21:10:50 Peggy again -> Room 1: that makes sense–the Ning is for the teachers since they have an age requirement of 13 years and above
21:11:09 Peggy again -> Room 1: passion about a topic makes you an expert πŸ™‚
21:11:23 dgoodman -> Room 1: our 5th grade kids skyped different grades (2nd grade class, 8th grade class) It was really cool for them to skype with someone who had not done it before.  They felt like experts.
21:11:35 Peggy again -> Room 1: do any of you have questions you’d like us to ask Silvia?
21:11:56 Maureen -> Room 1: @dgoodman- our kids have not done anything w/skype.
21:12:47 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Maureen   Maybe we can team up a couple of our teachers and we facilitate the skype session to get them startes
21:13:29 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Peggy  It may have been mentioned, but does Silvia know about the
21:13:35 Peggy again -> Room 1: These are the photos she is sharing on ustream Flickr set for Around the world with 80 Schools
21:14:09 sheila -> Room 1:
21:14:18 Peggy again -> Room 1: thanks for that link Sheila!
21:14:55 dgoodman -> Room 1: OK….I definitely want to get us involved in this.  This is great!
21:15:18 Peggy again -> Room 1: she makes it irresistable!!!
21:15:19 Maureen -> Room 1: @dgoodman- worth a try. I have a teacher who is working with a friend in Germany. We are trying to work out the time issues and vacation times, so that the 2 choruses can sing the songs they have been practicing together. All of our kids are in specials and moving around all day- hard to coordinate when others are not very flexible.
21:15:45 sarahjane -> Room 1: She is AMAZING!
21:16:49 Peggy again -> Room 1:  this is a fantastic blog post she wrote about what students learn when they are podcasting!!!!
21:16:51 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Maureen   We’ve had the same problems here when trying to connect folks.  practicing songs together sounds pretty cool…I hope it works out
21:17:01 Peggy again -> Room 1: that link has the poster on it
21:17:09 sarahjane -> Room 1: I think you need to just go ahead  and do it and so it dgoodman – 
21:17:12 Peggy again -> Room 1: it’s not about the tool, it’s about the skills
21:17:24 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:17:43 Peggy again -> Room 1: you can access all of the posters from that link
21:17:49 sarahjane -> Room 1: I have done some amazing things around writing stories, predicting, etc
21:18:01 dgoodman -> Room 1: @Peggy …so true
21:18:16 sarahjane -> Room 1: my kids are very motivated to write with a progressive story – I teach grade 1
21:18:25 Peggy again -> Room 1: it really helps to be able to explain to parents (and even other teachers) the incredible value of these experiences–meet many standards
21:18:26 dgoodman -> Room 1: I bookmarked this a couple weeks ago.  Saw these from a Twitter post
21:18:52 Peggy again -> Room 1: you can download them to your computer and print them out πŸ™‚
21:19:44 Peggy again -> Room 1: that’s great advice–interact!! don’t just ask a question and give an answer–talk to each other
21:20:40 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:20:58 Peggy again -> Room 1: that’s a great video to learn about getting started with skype and begin a project like this
21:21:22 Peggy again -> Room 1: yes!!! show that video to your IT director or your principal πŸ™‚
21:21:40 dgoodman -> Room 1: Can I put these posters on my wiki for parents, of course with rights given to Silvia
21:22:33 Peggy again -> Room 1:  all of the videos on her ning are here
21:22:45 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:23:01 Peggy again -> Room 1: the vimeo is the student impressions
21:23:29 Peggy again -> Room 1: grandparents love skype to keep in touch with grandkids!!!
21:23:32 dgoodman -> Room 1: This is great!  Thanks so much for sharing all these great resources.  
21:23:50 Peggy again -> Room 1: isn’t she fabulous??!!
21:24:28 dgoodman -> Room 1: Our teachers use it to support one another in their classrooms.  I set up a group for our school.  They help each other with technical issues as well as instructional 
21:24:46 dgoodman -> Room 1: Silvia is awesome!
21:24:55 Peggy again -> Room 1: the curriculum 21 site by Heidi Hayes Jacobs–I’ll get the link for you in a minute
21:25:01 Maureen -> Room 1: Love her book- want it to be required reading for our faculty!
21:25:07 Silvia Tolisano -> Room 1:
21:25:09 dgoodman -> Room 1: This session is a big WOW!
21:25:23 Peggy again -> Room 1: perfect!! thanks Silvia!
21:26:18 Peggy again -> Room 1: Heidi is the guru for curriculum mapping!
21:26:39 Peggy again -> Room 1: oh I’m so jealous!! she has an iPad!!
21:28:03 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:28:05 Cheri -> Room 1:
21:28:17 dgoodman -> Room 1: OMG…loving the curriculum21.ning
21:29:13 Peggy again -> Room 1: Tom Barrett has incredible presentations on his site–"Interesting Ways "
21:29:16 Maureen -> Room 1: I thought this one was Richard Byrne- Tom has another one with 43 ways- part of his interesting ways series
21:29:23 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:29:34 dgoodman -> Room 1: We are loving our flip cameras and using them for short instructional videos
21:29:36 Peggy again -> Room 1: that site compiles all of his presentations
21:30:33 Peggy again -> Room 1: there have been some great webinars on mobile learning on LearnCentral in the past couple of week!
21:30:43 dgoodman -> Room 1: are you guys familiar with  YOu can create one short URL for several URLs
21:30:57 Peggy again -> Room 1: you’re hearing some breaking news now!!!
21:31:03 dgoodman -> Room 1:
21:31:05 sheila -> Room 1: Wow!
21:31:09 Peggy again -> Room 1: Sharon is moving to Africa for a job in Mozambique
21:31:12 matt montagne -> Room 1: congrats, Sharon!!!!
21:31:17 sheila -> Room 1: Congratulations, Sharon!
21:31:17 Peggy again -> Room 1: isn’t that exciting!!!!!
21:31:23 kcaise -> Room 1: congrats Sharon!
21:31:25 Maureen -> Room 1: Wow! Congratulations! 
21:31:27 matt montagne -> Room 1: how is their internet connection??
21:31:28 dgoodman -> Room 1: Yea, Sharon!
21:31:33 Peggy again -> Room 1:
21:31:35 dgoodman -> Room 1: Let’s skype!
21:31:47 Peggy again -> Room 1: American International School of Mozambique
21:32:02 Peggy again -> Room 1: they are using lots of technology there!
21:32:20 Peggy again -> Room 1: what a fantastic senior year for her son!
21:32:20 dgoodman -> Room 1: That is soooo cool!
21:32:26 matt montagne -> Room 1: that is great, Sharon…to bring your son along as well. Good for him to have the courage to do that
21:32:48 Peggy again -> Room 1: good point Silvia!!!
21:32:55 Peggy again -> Room 1: she’ll have her digital camera πŸ™‚
21:33:06 Maureen -> Room 1: Don’t you have a daughter as well? DId I meet her at educon?
21:33:08 Peggy again -> Room 1: thank you so much Lorna for our streaming!
21:33:09 Cheri -> Room 1: Round of applause for Sharon!!
21:33:15 Cheri -> Room 1: Yea Lorna!!
21:33:26 matt montagne -> Room 1: props to Lorna!!!
21:33:29 Peggy again -> Room 1: I’m so glad Sharon was able to get the ustream working for you!
21:33:44 Peggy again -> Room 1: thanks to all of you for joining us tonight!!!
21:33:55 Lorna -> Room 1: had a grt8 time 
21:34:01 Peggy again -> Room 1: see you on April 25, same time πŸ™‚
21:34:05 dgoodman -> Room 1: Thanks for the great discussion and links
21:34:08 Silvia Tolisano -> Room 1: Thank you everyone for listening.
21:34:24 Peggy again -> Room 1: thank you so much Silvia!!! you are such an inspiration!!
21:34:31 Peggy again -> Room 1: good night everyone!
21:34:32 sheila -> Room 1: Thank you for a great show!
21:34:39 mslaneeus -> Room 1: Thank you.
21:34:40 dgoodman -> Room 1: good night all



Cheri Toledo, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, Silvia Tosliano

Women of Web 3.0 – Show #120 Lucy Gray

Join us for an exciting conversation with the inimitable and well-connected Lucy Gray who shares with us her passion for what’s new in ipod/iphone educational apps, Google Teacher Academy and educational technology.

Cheri Toledo, Google Education, Lucy Gray, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, apps, education, iPod Touch, iphone

Women of Web 3.0 – Show #119: Karin Muller from Take2 Video

Join us as we catch up with Karin Muller of Take2 Videos as she shares her vision for the non-profit organization which she created. She was with us last year; it was great to have an update on an incredible initiative which places raw footage of areas of global conflict into the hands of North American students to create PSAs and documentaries. Karin is a world traveler and photojournalist whose work has appeared in such places as National Geographic and Discovery Channel.


Karin Muller wikipedia article

Take2 Videos Ning – Students site

Take2 Videos – information for educators who are interested

Darfur, Karin Muller, Media Literacy, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, Take2 Video, documentary, global education

Women of Web 3.0 – Show #118 – Media Literacy

This week, show co-hosts Cheri Toledo and Peggy George carried on while Sharon Peters was in California at the Big Idea Fest conference. We had a fantastic conversation with Dr. Cheryl Ball, an Assistant Professor of New Media in the Department of English at Illinois State University where she teaches classes in multimodal composition, digital media, composition theory, and digital publishing. Cheryl is also the Lead Editor of Kairos: An Online Journal of Rhetoric, Technology, and Pedagogy. The journal publishes things that can only exist in an online journal (you can’t print a video). Cheryl was joined by one of her students, Matthew Wendling, a senior undergrad and aspiring secondary teacher, who added some valuable student perspective on the use of multimodal composition and writing with multimedia. Cheryl took all of the students in one of her classes to a national conference about multimodal composition in Louisville , and it was exciting to hear Matthew’s stories about the experience, and the aha moment they experienced when they realized that they were already doing all of this! They had the opportunity to learn more about how to use the social media tools in academic ways, but they also spent time interviewing conference attendees with video cameras and audio recorders. They captured over 200 hours of raw footage and returned to school and created a chapter for a book collection that was accepted for publication called "Talking Back to Teachers: Undergrad Research in Multimodal Composition". (Debra Journet, Cheryl E. Ball, and Ryan Trauman (Eds.) The New Work of Composing. Computers and Composition Digital Press/Utah State University Press It was inspiring to hear both of them share their stories describing exciting ways that learning is changing through the use of multimedia tools.



 20-30-20  Peggy George – Hi everyone! Great to have you join us for WOW3!
 20-31-29  cheri toledo – Hi everyone
 20-32-49  Peggy George – we’re really excited to have Cheryl Ball and her student Matthew with us tonight!
 20-33-05  Peggy George – We’re talking about media literacies! They have some exciting things to share!
 20-33-53  Peggy George – welcome Karen, csitterle and sroseman!!
 20-34-19  Peggy George – I can relate to that!! bad poet!! love it –)
 20-34-46  cheri toledo – I’m a bad poet and I know it!
 20-34-59  Peggy George – http-//  This is Cheryl’s website–awesome!
 20-35-07  Peggy George – welcome mrsdurff!!
 20-35-26  mrsdurff – hey
 20-35-42  Peggy George – Matthew if you have a website or eportfolio please share the link with us –)
 20-35-53  mrsdurff – he does
 20-36-21  Peggy George – I’m really interested in learning about multimodal composition! I like it already!
 20-36-57  mrsdurff – http-//
 20-36-57  mrsdurff – it is http-//
 20-37-04  Peggy George – thank you Durff!
 20-37-06  Matthew Wendlng – http-//
 20-37-26  Matthew Wendlng – This is the one I’ve been using for my project
 20-37-36  mrsdurff – oh that revolving door
 20-37-45  mrsdurff – did you all get http-//
 20-37-45  Peggy George – http-//
 20-38-06  Peggy George – that is the link to the Kairos Journal she’s talking about
 20-38-25  emapey – @durff still badwith issues, in/out/in
 20-38-38  Peggy George – this is really cutting edge scholarly work for universities!!
 20-40-06  Peggy George – http-//  This is one of the videos in the Kairos Journal that I loved!!
 20-40-37  Durff – had to kick myself out
 20-40-50  Peggy George – how the audio for you now @emapey??
 20-41-14  Peggy George – have to get used to clicking differently now that we’re back to the old chat room
 20-41-20  emapey – no audio yet
 20-41-25  Durff – mmmm – she should do a k12online preso
 20-41-40  Peggy George – the audio is coming from the ustream–did you click on play?
 20-42-15  Peggy George – that’s such a great point Cheri!! finding the language to describe digital literacies –)
 20-42-43  Peggy George – I agree Durff!! This would make a fantastic K12 Online preso!
 20-43-04  Peggy George – the common language also helps with tagging things
 20-43-06  Durff – so when will she present?
 20-43-21  Durff – and vwbpe2010 too
 20-43-26  emapey – Peggie George audio is OK
 20-43-31  sheila – Good point! I so agree!
 20-43-34  Peggy George – great @emapey!!!
 20-43-46  Durff – that one takes place in SL
 20-44-41  Durff – always expect Starbucks
 20-45-07  Durff – did it challenge you all?
 20-45-44  Peggy George – I’m just browsing Matthew’s blog about the Computers and Writing Conference–sounds like an awesome experience and I’m so glad you blogged about it!
 20-46-09  Peggy George – "re" is taking on a whole new meaning for us!
 20-46-23  Peggy George – http-//  Just in case you missed the link
 20-46-37  Durff – let’s do it to begin with before we "re"
 20-47-07  Peggy George – good point Durff!
 20-47-12  Durff – definition?
 20-47-29  Durff – comprehending and creating in a medium?
 20-47-30  Peggy George – but sometimes it might be easier to start with a remix than it is to start from scratch
 20-48-23  Durff – but they are all compositions
 20-48-53  Peggy George – Cheryl-is all of your teaching online or are you also teaching f2f classes?
 20-48-58  Durff – yes
 20-49-52  Durff – what is better? online or offline or blended?
 20-50-00  Peggy George – I’m curious if you find your online students more willing/able to continue independently with the technology outside of class?
 20-50-33  Peggy George – Google apps are really helping to solve the platform issues and software issues
 20-50-43  Durff – I don’t, wonder what Dr. Ball would say
 20-51-33  Peggy George – I love that response, Matthew!! makes so much sense!
 20-51-39  Durff – love that revolving door
 20-52-01  cherylball – I haven’t used google apps yet because most of the work that my students do isn’t word-based (i.e., google docs)
 20-52-04  Peggy George – at least we don’t get two lines of text everytime you leave and come back
 20-52-19  Durff – but are the skills software specific or do they transfer?
 20-52-31  Peggy George – @Matthew-do you plan to continue blogging after graduation?
 20-52-55  Matthew Wendlng – Yes I do
 20-53-11  Peggy George – I find Google Presentations great for collaborating with others
 20-53-26  Matthew Wendlng – I’ve grown up with it – I’ll be attempting to go a step further and doing my teaching using blogs
 20-53-32  Matthew Wendlng – Has anyone tried Google Wave?
 20-53-42  Peggy George – It’s been fascinating watching Tom Barrett develop his 21 ways to and other presentations by having people add to them on Google presentations
 20-53-54  Peggy George – that’s great to hear Matthew!
 20-54-20  Peggy George – @Matthew–it sounds like you’re really comfortable with the online environment!
 20-54-42  cheri toledo – @Matthew – yes, I use Google Wave … I’ve a Waver
 20-54-49  Durff – Dr. Ball, you wrote, "I introduce students to the idea that none of us communicate only through writing and that written text itself is multimodal in that it carries visual, spatial, and sonic properties every time we type a new letter-character on the screen." What are sonic properties? This is from http-//
 20-55-04  Matthew Wendlng – @Peggy- Very – A lot of times I actually prefer it @Cheri- I just got an invitation and it looks very exciting
 20-55-26  Peggy George – I’m still trying to figure out how to manage Google Wave!
 20-56-17  Peggy George – I really enjoyed the series of conversations on Teachers Teaching Teachers with the authors of the "Teaching the New Writing" book. They’ve done some fantastic things!
 20-56-23  Durff – -)
 20-56-35  cheri toledo – any questions?
 20-56-44  Durff – i want to know what sonic properties are
 20-56-48  Peggy George – I didn’t think of written text as being multimodal.
 20-57-20  Peggy George – that’s really interesting–it’s very challenging to get universities to accept this kind of work as "scholarly"
 20-57-23  Durff – every composition is multimodal
 20-57-48  Durff – ouch
 20-57-56  Durff – yes
 20-57-57  Peggy George – great example
 20-58-12  Durff – he’s in the right company
 20-58-14  Peggy George – hooray Matthew!! we need teachers like you!!
 20-59-03  cherylball – @peggy, most people don’t think that written text is multimodal, but it is. If you consider written text in the space of an essay, it’s visual because it’s formatted on 8.5×11-inch paper with one-inch margins, etc., and all that is visual and spatial.
 20-59-15  Peggy George – how do you find those pockets, Cheri? that let you run with something like media literacies?
 20-59-41  cheri toledo – word of mouth
 20-59-42  Peggy George – so multimodal can just be anything more than one mode?
 20-59-55  cheri toledo – many teachers/admin go to ICE
 21-00-05  cheri toledo – Illinois Computing Educators conference
 21-00-07  Peggy George – how did you manage the peer editing/revision process?
 21-00-36  Peggy George – smart students figure out what their teachers want and give it to them –)
 21-00-57  cheri toledo – smart teachers let students figure out what they need to do on their own –)
 21-01-13  Durff – it is less work peggy
 21-01-19  Peggy George – @Cheryl and Matthew–what do you think the impact of Twitter is on writing?
 21-01-21  Durff – oh that was cheri
 21-01-24  Durff – sorry
 21-01-35  Peggy George – love that answer Cheri!!
 21-01-42  Matthew Wendlng – @Peggy- I’ve been helping my friend with a paper on this…The impact is big
 21-01-57  Matthew Wendlng – We were talking about it in a visual rhetoric class I’m taking
 21-01-59  Durff – is it?
 21-02-10  Durff – why?
 21-02-28  Peggy George – unfortunately as a university instructor I found many students who didn’t want to figure out what they could do on their own–just wanted to know what was required and do the minimum
 21-02-33  Matthew Wendlng – We came to the conclusion that it further diminishes the importance of the text as the primary media – especially with shortened hyperlinks bringing in the visual and audio
 21-02-40  Peggy George – talk about that Matthew! I’d love to hear
 21-02-54  Matthew Wendlng – The problem is that if no one is teaching to this, we’ll become less educated when it comes to consuming these things
 21-03-07  Durff – couldn’t other platforms do that?
 21-03-09  Peggy George – so true Matthew!
 21-03-10  cheri toledo – guiding, coaching, directing is much more effective in creating an environment which leads students to become independent and interdependent learners
 21-03-16  Matthew Wendlng – And 140 characters is a very short space to communicate quite a bit of info
 21-03-29  Durff – where is your research on that Matthew?
 21-04-29  Peggy George – how did you manage that Matthew! I have a similar task and don’t know how to tackle it–hours and hours of video footage
 21-04-31  Durff – why should I believe your thesis without a research base?
 21-05-12  Durff – it’s a composition
 21-05-19  Peggy George – great question Cheri! the assessment of digital projects can be quite a challenge
 21-05-20  Durff – same rules as text
 21-05-42  Durff – @Peggy why is it a challenge?
 21-05-56  Matthew Wendlng – @Durff- Well, as an undergraduate, I’ve only scratched the surface of it.  We don’t get a great deal of time to research and so my comments were merely based on personal experience and discussion facilitated by faculty
 21-05-58  Durff – bingo
 21-06-07  Durff – I like this lady
 21-06-18  Matthew Wendlng – Ergo, I can’t speak from a position of authority to begin with…I’m pretty out of my league here!
 21-06-25  cheri toledo – @Durff – she’s a great colleague to have
 21-06-34  Durff – @Matthew so they are purely your opinion
 21-06-58  Peggy George – that’s so funny!
 21-07-54  Peggy George – I think it’s a challenge because teachers may not be clear about the purpose of the multimedia projects and don’t know how to assess it
 21-08-03  cheri toledo – any questions?
 21-08-42  Matthew Wendlng – @Durff- For our purposes, yes.  @Peggy- Students really crave evaluation; it’s what we live for, academically…Being able to assess the work is crucial
 21-08-43  Peggy George – don’t worry about Durff, Matthew!! she’s just pushing you to defend your observations–doesn’t have to be research
 21-08-56  Durff – @Matthew I challenge you to design a Twitterpoll to gather data on this research qt – using surveymonkey it won’t take but minutes to put out there
 21-09-25  Durff – @Peggy has my number
 21-09-52  Peggy George – he’s just doing such an awesome job and I don’t want him to feel discouraged!
 21-09-56  sheila – Do parents and students appreciate the multimodal approach?
 21-10-21  Peggy George – an authentic audience is fantastic for assessing learning!
 21-10-26  Matthew Wendlng – @Durff- That would be interesting!  @Peggy- I never mind being pushed – it’s the only way to learn -)
 21-11-04  Peggy George – great Matthew!! Cheryl is talking about exactly this thing that Durff is suggesting
 21-11-19  Durff – @Dr. Ball do you teach open courses like @courosa or @gsiemens or @clifmims ? Would you want to ?
 21-11-31  cherylball – open courses?
 21-11-42  sheila – IS it appreciated when it could be so different from their past experiences?
 21-11-47  Durff – where anyone online can join
 21-11-51  cherylball – ugh, dreamweaver. those students were troopers!
 21-12-29  Peggy George – Alec Couros is going to be our guest on Classroom 2.0 LIVE on Sat. Dec. 19 talking about his open university courses
 21-12-31  cherylball – @durff, no, I haven’t, mostly because the courses I’ve taught, where there are online discusion forums, I wanted students to have some privacy to take risks so I haven’t opened the classes up.
 21-13-19  Durff – at  the university level, should students be shielded?
 21-13-39  Durff – I teach middle school in a semi shielded way
 21-13-42  cheri toledo – @Durff No … and they are not
 21-13-46  Peggy George – I have loved having the opportunity to participate in the open courses Alec teaches! Always learn so much
 21-13-58  Durff – they will be ready for openess when they reach you
 21-13-59  cheri toledo – shielded in that we’re not limited by what we can access
 21-14-21  Peggy George – it may be different for undergrad courses than grad courses
 21-14-59  Peggy George – http-//  this is an example of one of Alec’s courses
 21-15-04  Durff – it would be if I found your ning
 21-15-07  Durff – -)
 21-15-23  Matthew Wendlng – Would an open course entail non-enrolled individuals learning? 
 21-15-29  Peggy George – yes Matthew
 21-15-34  Durff – yes matthew
 21-15-42  Peggy George – I participate in his classes and I’m not enrolled in them
 21-16-13  Matthew Wendlng – Alright thank you
 21-16-22  Durff – @Dr. Ball do you use any virtual world to teach classes?
 21-17-03  Durff – Lurkers Unite
 21-17-18  Durff – -)
 21-17-23  Durff – she triesw
 21-17-37  Peggy George – we don’t have to be lurkers in Alec’s classes–we can participate in the live Elluminate sessions in the chat room or on the mic
 21-17-52  Durff – Dr. Ball should present in SL at VWBPE2010
 21-18-19  Durff – you’re kidding
 21-18-33  sheila – SL has bandwidth issues for me.
 21-18-43  Durff – everyone of my 7th graders know what SL is
 21-19-10  Peggy George – me too Sheila–rarely do I participate in SL when my computer doesn’t freeze up
 21-19-14  Durff – every class is different at any level
 21-19-57  Durff – empowers them to learn
 21-20-39  Peggy George – very true Durff!
 21-20-59  Peggy George – oh boy! I love secrets!
 21-21-09  Durff – preparation of learners means teaching learners to transfer skills btwn software platforms
 21-21-13  Peggy George – Matt speaks with such confidence!
 21-21-34  sheila – Saw that on his blog!
 21-21-38  Durff – Matt, on a live show and shy? Naw
 21-22-14  Durff – The drill team is good – I taught at a veterans’ school
 21-22-56  cherylball – I’m a band geek. I can’t help it.
 21-23-08  Peggy George – great analogies!
 21-23-11  Durff – do you play an instrument?
 21-23-14  Matthew Wendlng – @Cheryl- As am I
 21-23-18  Matthew Wendlng – -P
 21-23-27  cherylball – lol!
 21-23-44  Peggy George – fantastic conversation!!! love the ideas you’ve shared!
 21-23-58  Peggy George – that’s a great wish Cheri!
 21-24-17  Durff – start at the k12 level
 21-24-34  Peggy George – thank you Cheryl and Matthew!!
 21-24-50  Durff – compelling conversation
 21-24-57  Matthew Wendlng – Thank you for having me!  Definitely a new and exciting experience
 21-25-10  Peggy George – you sound like an "old pro" Matthew!
 21-25-10  cherylball – http-//
 21-25-28  Peggy George – his blog is his WOW of the Week
 21-25-30  Durff – he probably is – a new lurker
 21-25-38  cherylball – We publish teaching-related stuff, so everyone should submit!
 21-25-57  Durff – -)
 21-26-02  cherylball – We also publish theory stuff — anyting about technology.
 21-26-29  Durff – starting tomorrow am
 21-26-43  cheri toledo – http-//
 21-26-58  cheri toledo – http-//
 21-27-40  Durff – link dumper
 21-27-41  cheri toledo – http-//
 21-27-58  Durff – yup, middle schoolers donate to KICA
 21-28-01  Durff – KIVA
 21-28-03  cheri toledo – very cool
 21-28-11  cheri toledo – super
 21-28-36  cherylball – very!
 21-28-44  Durff – microloans = KIVA
 21-28-48  cheri toledo – great idea
 21-29-01  cherylball – @durff, thanks for asking smart questions!
 21-29-16  Durff – when they pay it back, you can regive
 21-29-18  cheri toledo – wonderful
 21-29-29  Durff – Dr. Ball – i ain’t smart
 21-29-37  Durff – just annoying
 21-29-43  cheri toledo – http-//
 21-29-43  cherylball – -)
 21-29-44  Peggy George – we always love fun links!!
 21-29-55  Matthew Wendlng – @Durff- Thanks for busting my chops!
 21-29-56  cherylball – that’s what my friends say about me, too
 21-30-04  cherylball – aaargggh!
 21-30-11  Durff – your welcome Matthew – anytime
 21-30-14  Peggy George – that’s really funny Cheri!
 21-30-16  cheri toledo – http-//
 21-30-37  cherylball – cool
 21-30-47  Durff – on that revolving door
 21-30-55  Durff – and we pay for this cable
 21-31-04  cherylball – this was a fantastic way to spend an hour. Thank you all for having us!
 21-31-08  cheri toledo – Great show – I wish Sharon was here!!
 21-31-18  Durff – but many will here later
 21-31-22  cheri toledo – It will be archived
 21-31-26  cherylball – and Peggy has such a wonderful radio voice!
 21-31-29  Durff – where is sharon?
 21-31-36  cheri toledo – San Francisco
 21-31-40  Durff – ah
 21-31-41  cheri toledo – Thank you Sheila
 21-31-47  cheri toledo – thanks World Bridges
 21-31-52  cheri toledo – yea!
 21-32-08  Durff – Jeff Lebo = beachdude (hilarious)
 21-32-11  cherylball – thanks Ustream and world bridges. and thanks to  and for good colleagues like Cheri!
 21-32-26  sroseman – Thank you!! Great conversations.
 21-32-27  cheri toledo – Yea!!
 21-32-42  cherylball – bye!
 21-32-56  Durff – I’ll enjoy relistening
 21-32-59  Peggy George – thank you all for joining us!
 21-33-14  Durff – night all – take care
 21-35-06  Matthew Wendlng – Good night!

Cheri Toledo, Cheryl Ball, ETT, Media Literacy, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, edtechtalk

Jeff Utecht and Daneah with students from International School Bangkok: Operation Smile

Jeff Utecht and wife Daneah share their students from International School Bangkok with us for an evening of inspiration and hope as their students relate their experiences with a very special project: Operation Smile. Daneah and two of the students have created videos to capture the visit the students had with young patients who experienced facial reconstructive surgery in Thailand.


The Chat:


[18:23] <PeggyG> here we go!!! πŸ™‚
[18:24] <PeggyG> WOW3 πŸ™‚
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[18:25] <PeggyG> this is nice that we can just stay in the chat between shows
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[18:27] <sharonp> So excited about this
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[18:28] <sharonp> Just setting things up folks….
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[18:32] <cheri> welcome everyone
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[18:33] <cheri> This is so fun!!!
[18:33] <PeggyG> I’m so excited to have Jeff, Daneah and their middle school students here tonight!!
[18:34] <cheri> alright
[18:34] <timslim_> technical question – if I just want to listen – i should just use the edtech stream.
[18:34] <PeggyG> I love my PLN!! I saw Jeff’s tweet about Operation Smile, immediately went to his blog and knew we had to have them as our guests on the show!!
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[18:34] <timslim_> but if want to ask a question – is should skype in?
[18:34] <timslim_> is that correct?
[18:35] <PeggyG> It is so fantastic to have the students with us!! Night for us but morning for them in Thailand
[18:35] <cheri> you can write your questinos ehre
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[18:35] <timslim_> or is the mebeam site being used?
[18:35] <jutecht> You can ask a question here and the kids will do the best they can to grab them and answer them
[18:35] <cheri> questions here in chat
[18:35] <timslim_> cool – questions here
[18:35] <timslim_> thanks
[18:35] <PeggyG> what an inspiration! you students are fantastic!!
[18:35] <cheri> Wonderful!
[18:36] <PeggyG> we’ll be sharing their links, videos, etc. throughout the show
[18:36] <tsbray> The video is coming through here in Korea, but no sound… πŸ™
[18:36] <cheri> I can see the video – Hi students!!
[18:37] <sharonp> Aren’t they great? I think our students are just longing to make an impact on the world – these kids really display that quality
[18:37] <PeggyG> the videos created by the students are so amazing! highly motivational and made me WANT to donate to Operation Smile! I did it immediately!!
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[18:37] <cheri> can you hear now?
[18:38] <cheri> The students should be talking now
[18:38] <tsbray> Yes, sound is fine now.
[18:38] <cheri> great!!
[18:38] <PeggyG> what fun! a truly international group!
[18:38] <PeggyG> what a great mission statement!
[18:38] <sharonp> super impressed with their global vision
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[18:39] <tsbray> I’m happy to see that a school is managing to do global citizenship, it is part of our mission at KIS, but not sure we are doing much about it. Congratulations!
[18:39] <PeggyG> that’s a high turnover-40% every year
[18:40] <cheri> Yea Illinois
[18:40] <PeggyG> keep in touch with facebook, email and skype–love it!!
[18:40] <PeggyG> Tell us more about how you use the Smartboards
[18:41] <PeggyG> do students and teachers both use the Smartboards?
[18:41] <cheri> What would you want to have that you do not have?
[18:41] <sharonp> Recently bumped into a former neighbour who spent a year in Bangkok – all 3 of her kids went to International School of Bangkok and LOVED it!
[18:41] <PeggyG> Do your parents use technology too to follow what you are learning/doing in school?
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[18:42] <Lorna> power pool?
[18:42] <sharonp> neato, Panthernet….
[18:43] <PeggyG> thanks! was wondering about Panthernet–Moodle in your school πŸ™‚
[18:43] <Lorna> do parents have an individual sign in
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[18:43] <Lorna> or do they use their student’s
[18:43] <tsbray> Do you have Moodle on your server? Or do you have it on a company’s server?
[18:43] <cheri> tell us more about Project Smile
[18:43] <PeggyG> I know you have a really incredible library in your school but I think you call it a learning hub. Can you tell us more about that?
[18:44] <PeggyG> We’re ready to hear about Operation Smile
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[18:46] <tsbray> I think it is wonderful that you are helping people and impacting our world in a positive way through Operation Smile.
[18:46] <PeggyG> Let’s take a look at that Operation Smile video to get a better idea about it
[18:46] <sharonp> this is about empowerment for everyone involved…
[18:46] <cheri> There we are
[18:46] <cheri> wonderful
[18:47] <PeggyG> are you hearing the audio with the video?
[18:47] <PeggyG> ok it’s coming
[18:47] <cheri> Video … take 2 …
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[18:48] <timslim> video only here
[18:48] <jutecht>
[18:48] <PeggyG> thanks Jeff
[18:48] <cheri> there we go
[18:48] <PeggyG> there comes the sound πŸ™‚
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[18:49] <kathym> Yeah Sheila!
[18:49] <cheri> You’re awesome Sheila!
[18:49] <PeggyG> I love all of the bubbles in this video!! I’ll bet it really made the kids happy!
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[18:50] <sharon> can everyone see and hear the video?
[18:50] <sharon> ETT was crashing my FF!
[18:51] <cheri> good enough for now
[18:51] <cheri> Clapping!!
[18:51] <argg> we want Ms JUtecht !
[18:52] <kathym> very impressive.
[18:52] <PeggyG>   This is one of the student videos
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[18:52] <matt_montagne> hey all
[18:52] <PeggyG> This is another student video:
[18:52] <cheri> wonderful
[18:52] <matt_montagne> got sheila rocking the stream!
[18:52] <tsbray> Thanks for this! It is wonderful, but now I have a meeting.
[18:52] <sharon> I was going to ask what you used to create the video – iMovie 09 + what kind of camera and who took the footage?
[18:52] <cheri> Yea!!
[18:52] <matt_montagne> love the ustream
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[18:53] <PeggyG> that is really impressive Deaneah!!
[18:53] <sharon> fabulous!!
[18:53] <sharon> that is the best kind…. multiple videographers!
[18:53] <PeggyG> the close up photos really told the story!!
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[18:54] <matt_montagne> is this recorded video??
[18:54] <matt_montagne> or are the kids live??
[18:54] <cheri> kids are live
[18:54] <sharon> I would like to know what was hardest about the trip and what were they most surprised about?
[18:54] <PeggyG> That is such a great story that the students created these videos on their own time–not a required assignment!! Their passion really comes through!
[18:54] <matt_montagne> very cool…were are the kids??
[18:54] <cheri> Bangkok
[18:54] <matt_montagne> ahh…very nic3e
[18:54] <PeggyG> there come mebeam again πŸ™‚
[18:55] <argg> chat still not updating – i prefer old chat
[18:55] <sharon> the kids are all in Bangkok, but they traveled a few hours to get to the place where they were involved with Operation Smile
[18:55] <sharon> What will they do differently NOW?
[18:55] <cheri> "Change the world one child at a time"
[18:55] <PeggyG> they make a very compelling case for getting involved with Operation Smile!!
[18:56] <matt_montagne> this is AWESOME!
[18:56] <cheri> Do any of you want to be doctors/nurses to help children like this?
[18:56] <PeggyG> Did this experience make any of you decide you want to become doctors?
[18:56] <kathym> Agree. They are so well spoken and definitely know how to tell their story
[18:57] <matt_montagne> kudos to the WOW team on the stream and pulling in video…nice production here
[18:57] <kathym> ditto
[18:58] <sharon> @matt oh you know us, always trying to break out of the box! Kudos to Peggy and Sheila – not sure *I* would have been brave enough
[18:58] <PeggyG> I have learned so much just by watching all of your videos and browsing around on the Operation Smile website!
[18:58] <PeggyG> Operation Smile:
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[18:59] <timslim> Has it changed how you see/feel about Thailand and its people?
[18:59] <PeggyG> Daneah Galloway Blog:
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[18:59] <PeggyG> Jeff Utecht Blog:
[19:00] <argg> How do these learners feel now that they are  professional presenters on a global scale?
[19:00] <PeggyG> Owain video
[19:00] <sharon> @argg Good question!
[19:00] <PeggyG> Ciel video?
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[19:01] <PeggyG> Operation Smile Donation Site:
[19:01] <PeggyG> It’s very easy to donate on that site πŸ™‚
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[19:01] <Durff> not aarrg anymore
[19:02] <Cheri> Yea, durff
[19:02] <PeggyG> would love to hear about your Operation Smile school events!
[19:02] <sr_> thanks all
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[19:03] <Durff> who wants to wear a uniform?
[19:03] <PeggyG> it is sooooo great seeing all of you on the video!!
[19:03] <PeggyG> interesting! more points for coins than bills πŸ™‚
[19:03] <sharon> Ah yes, I have seen this done at schools where I have taught…. we call it Penny Wars
[19:03] <Durff> @Jeff How do these learners feel now that they are  professional presenters on a global scale?
[19:04] <Cheri> shows how much the little things (coins) build up
[19:04] <PeggyG> yes I remember penny wars!! clearly a strategy to it!!
[19:04] <timslim> Nice work on the videos.
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[19:04] <Cheri> Has anyone decided to go into medicine to help the children
[19:05] <Durff> @Jeff QT" How do these learners feel now that they are  professional presenters on a global scale?
[19:05] <timslim> @durff – almost every primary school in thailand has a uniform
[19:05] <Durff> yes we do too in USA
[19:06] <Cheri> great!
[19:06] <timslim> guess it makes sense for the international schools to do so as well.
[19:06] <Durff> he is ignoring me
[19:06] <Durff> How do these learners feel now that they are  professional presenters on a global scale?\
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[19:06] <PeggyG> how were you able to view things in the operating room?
[19:06] <Durff> ewqw
[19:06] <Durff> ty !
[19:07] <PeggyG> you are definitely famous now!! and such fantastic Operation Smile Ambassadors!!
[19:07] <Durff> they ARE famous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[19:07] <Durff> tell them Jeff
[19:07] <Durff> hi emapay
[19:07] <Cheri> You are doing great!!
[19:08] <emapey> Hi Durff!
[19:08] <PeggyG> I am so in awe of this learning experience they had!! They know the doctors!!! πŸ™‚
[19:08] <Durff> these kids are great!
[19:09] <Cheri> iTunes!
[19:09] <PeggyG> all of us can now blog about this show and keep re-telling this story around the world!!
[19:09] <Durff> yup, they ARE going to be in iTunes
[19:09] <Cheri> very cool
[19:10] <Durff> and ustream too
[19:10] <PeggyG> if other schools wanted to get involved with a project like this what advice would you give them?
[19:11] <Durff> how much does this cost /student? does the school pay?
[19:11] <PeggyG> that’s really helpful to hear the perspective about seeing things from different points of view!
[19:12] <Durff> QT: How will this experience change who you are as a person?
[19:12] <Cheri> Yea!
[19:12] <Cheri> You’ll have more after this broadcast, Ciel
[19:12] <Durff> this isn’t just numma numma – this is important
[19:13] <PeggyG> we can all post your videos on our Facebook pages too so more people will hear about it. We’ll include the donation link.
[19:13] <PeggyG> thanks–eager to hear about the costs and arrangements
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[19:15] <PeggyG> what powerful personal motivation on the part of the kids!
[19:15] <Durff>  QT: How will this experience change who you are as a person?
[19:16] <matt_montagne> that was great!!!
[19:16] <Durff> i have never heard peggy talk that fast!
[19:16] <Cheri> Did the students raise money to donate?
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[19:16] <Cheri> never mind, wrong paste
[19:17] <Cheri>
[19:17] <Durff> hey kim
[19:17] <kcaise> hi durff, everyone!
[19:17] <Cheri>
[19:18] <sharon>
[19:18] <emapey> the link to first resource??
[19:18] <PeggyG> Jibbigo: Voice translation app for iPhone Speak in English and it translates in Spanish and vice versa.
[19:18] <PeggyG> Phil Tulga: Music Through the Curriculum (Warning-sound starts to play when you click on the link) Playing Fraction Pies (adding fractions to make rhythms)
[19:19] <Cheri>
[19:19] <PeggyG> 50 iTouch and iPhone apps for education:
[19:19] <sharon> and in case you didn’t see….
[19:19] <sharon> lol
[19:19] <Cheri> lol
[19:19] <emapey> Thank you that is the link
[19:19] <Durff> QT: How will this experience change who you are as a person?
[19:19] <Cheri> that’s why we’re wow3 …
[19:19] <PeggyG> the students have created some fantastic blogs! we’ll share the links here so you can explore later
[19:19] <sharon> Cheri has the fastest finger
[19:19] <sharon> fingers
[19:20] <Durff> surely she has more than one finger
[19:20] <PeggyG> Becky:
[19:20] <Cheri> on most daze
[19:20] <Durff> πŸ™‚
[19:20] <sharon> apologies, my fingers hiccuped
[19:20] <PeggyG> Siska:
[19:20] <Cheri> amazing!
[19:20] <PeggyG> Sanjana:
[19:20] <Durff> my hands hiccup all the time
[19:20] <Cheri> thank you
[19:20] <PeggyG> Ciel:
[19:21] <Cheri> I miss working with middle schoolers – such authenticity
[19:21] <PeggyG> Julie:
[19:21] <PeggyG> Liana:
[19:21] <PeggyG> Siska:
[19:22] <PeggyG> Tasha:
[19:22] <Durff> everyone pick a blog and comment to these fantastic learners!
[19:22] <Cheri> We’ll go there now!
[19:22] <PeggyG> Nichole:
[19:22] <PeggyG> these one word descriptions of your blogs are really powerful! thanks!
[19:22] <sharon> Yes, what a great way to build empathy
[19:22] <jutecht> Chris:
[19:23] <jutecht> Owain:
[19:23] <Cheri> 9:22 am Monday in Bankok
[19:23] <PeggyG> πŸ™‚ their passion comes through in their blogs about other topics too!!
[19:23] <Cheri> Lots of "today" left there
[19:23] <Durff> monday comes too early
[19:23] <kcaise> life changing, awesome
[19:24] <PeggyG> life-changing!! definitely sums it up for all of us after hearing from you!
[19:24] <sharon> I doubt my Monday morning will be this much fun tomorrow!
[19:24] <Durff> the maverick speaks
[19:24] <kcaise> so true peggy
[19:24] <Cheri> Inspiring comes to mind also
[19:24] <kcaise> amazing, definitely
[19:24] <Cheri> I love that
[19:24] <timslim> monday 3pm here. it’s been a good day, so you should be sweet for tomorrow
[19:25] <sharon> I love your optimism!
[19:25] <Durff> i’ll keep that in mind
[19:25] <PeggyG> we’re hearing it here first!! they’re promising to this world-wide audience to post something about Operation Smile on their blogs!! Can’t wait to see them!
[19:26] <emapey> great blogs!!!!
[19:26] <Cheri> Moving past "the teacher told me"
[19:27] <Cheri> Thank you so much students!!
[19:27] <Cheri> You were wonderful
[19:27] <PeggyG> the students are incredible role models for all of us with blogging!
[19:27] <Durff> thank you learners
[19:27] <emapey> thank you students!!!
[19:27] <Cheri> hurray
[19:27] <timslim> yep
[19:27] <timslim> looking at nwo
[19:27] <timslim> now
[19:27] <PeggyG> that openness is so refreshing and helps all of us to learn from you!!
[19:28] <PeggyG> this has been an incredible learning experience with all of you!! Thank you so much for sharing your stories and experiences!!
[19:28] <Durff> i would expect nothing less from jutecht
[19:28] <kcaise> what a great pick me up!
[19:29] <Cheri> yes 12 hour difference for eastern
[19:29] <Durff> Thank you to all the fantastic learners!!
[19:29] <PeggyG> Thank you Jeff and Daneah!!!!!!!
[19:29] <Lorna> ver impressive – kudos to your students
[19:29] <Lorna> *very
[19:29] <timslim> Thanks very much jeff – lots of cool stuff going on there.
[19:29] <emapey> impressive!!!
[19:30] <timslim> congrats ISB students
[19:30] <Durff> i wish she were my principal
[19:30] <PeggyG> they are definitely world class students!!!
[19:30] <Cheri> thanks everyone
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[19:30] <Cheri> see you the first week in December
[19:30] <PeggyG> Yes our next show will be December 6–please join us!!
[19:31] <emapey> Thank you Cheri!!
[19:31] <PeggyG> we were so lucky that our time zones actually worked out tonight!!
[19:31] <Durff> aw
[19:31] <Cheri> bye everyone
[19:31] <emapey> Thank you!!!
[19:31] <Durff> night
[19:31] <PeggyG> good night and good morning!!!!
[19:31] <emapey> bye all
[19:31] <Durff> wow!
[19:31] <timslim> afternoon from NZ
[19:31] <Cheri> great job everyone
[19:31] <Cheri> thanks chat

Cheri Toledo, Daneah Galloway, ETT, International School of Bangkok, Jeff Utecht, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, WOW3, education

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[20:23] <cheri> this is the first time i’ve been able to use FF in almost 2 years
[20:23] <cheri> so nice
[20:28] <PeggyG> Hi everyone!! getting set up and almost ready to start the stream
[20:29] <PeggyG> new chat window tonight–we’re just trying it out.
[20:29] <cheri> can you hear us?
[20:29] <PeggyG> can you let us know if you’re hearing the stream on ETT-A???
[20:30] <PeggyG> technology is always such an adventure!!!
[20:31] <PeggyG> with this new chat window you can copy/paste links into the chat–nice feature
[20:31] <PeggyG> Sharon is doing some awesome multitasking!!
[20:32] <PeggyG> so excited to be hearing about Teachers Without Borders-Canada experience!!
[20:33] <cheri> Welcome to WOW 3
[20:33] <PeggyG> just caught that–John is from Ohio but he was on the Canadian team for TWB πŸ™‚
[20:33] <cheri> Welcome Jackie!
[20:33] <PeggyG> Hi Jackie! Hi Kim!
[20:33] <jackiegerstein> Hi Cheri
[20:33] <cheri> Hi E
[20:34] <E> hi
[20:34] <jackiegerstein> Hi Peggy
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[20:34] <cheri> Hi Kim and Jenm
[20:34] <PeggyG> I love that Skype makes this kind of connection possible!!
[20:34] <John_Schinker> I was the "international" part of the team, Peggy.
[20:34] <PeggyG> that’s really cool John!!
[20:35] <cheri> @John – that’s right, thanks for representing us U.S.r’s
[20:35] <cheri> Yea!
[20:35] <PeggyG> yeah Jodi!!
[20:35] <cheri> Welcome csitterley
[20:35] <csitterley> Thanks-good to be here
[20:35] <PeggyG> what a great range of teaching expertise on your team!!
[20:36] <PeggyG> Welcome Lois!!!
[20:37] <cheri> Welcome Noble
[20:38] <Sharon> Okay – am finally here in the chat making loud noisy typing sounds
[20:38] <PeggyG> that’s amazing!! brought them 12 more computers and then taught them how to use them!!
[20:38] <PeggyG> not hearing your typing now Sharon
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[20:40] <PeggyG> amazing networking Noble!!
[20:40] <Maureen> Ok I’m confused… how do you listen?
[20:40] <PeggyG> click on ETT-A for audio
[20:40] <PeggyG> no ustream for this show
[20:40] <Sharon> Click on little audio icon in top right hand EDtech talk A
[20:40] <cheri> you’ll have to go back to the log in page
[20:41] <Maureen> It tells me that I have to reboot …
[20:41] <Sharon> or start another page … and login there
[20:41] <PeggyG> the trainer of trainer model makes so much sense!!
[20:41] <cheri> Give them a fish vs. teach them to fish
[20:42] <PeggyG> that’s exactly what I was thinking Cheri!
[20:42] <cheri> @Maureen – you can open edtechtalk in a new tab, then look for the EdTechTalk A
[20:42] <Maureen> Thanks Peggy and Sharon- FF gods do not like me today.
[20:43] <Maureen> I’ve got it now
[20:43] <Sharon> phew!
[20:43] <PeggyG> great Maureen!
[20:43] <PeggyG> what a success story!!
[20:44] <cheri> Welcome LesleyE and Durff
[20:44] <PeggyG> I really appreciate hearing that history!!!
[20:44] <cheri> Welcome elizabeth – didn’t see you come in
[20:45] <ehelfant> Hi cheri- listening and watching baseball
[20:45] <PeggyG> that must be an amazing feeling to go back and see the progress they have made since your last visit!
[20:45] <cheri> @ehelfant – me too πŸ™‚
[20:45] <durff> hi dr. toledo
[20:46] <cheri> lol
[20:46] <PeggyG> I’m curious how the bandwidth and network connections affected what you did with the teachers there
[20:46] <Sharon> Peggy – it was really amazing to return and see their growth!
[20:46] <cheri> not until tomorrow at classtime durff
[20:46] <LesleyE> Hi, will this be archived?  I think I’ve joined a little late.
[20:46] <PeggyG> yes this will be recorded and archived
[20:47] <LesleyE> Thx Peggy!
[20:47] <cheri> @LesleyE we still have 45 minutes left
[20:47] <csitterley> I have WOW3 in one ear and Roy Rogers and Dale Evans and my husband in the other ear
[20:47] <John_Schinker> bandwidth was a big concern in both countries.
[20:47] <cheri> @csitterley talk about multitasking
[20:47] <PeggyG> @csitterley!! I’m smiling!! what fun!!
[20:47] <durff> apple with peanut butter on fingers….
[20:48] <csitterley> I enjoyed following the trip this last summer when you were able to post information
[20:49] <PeggyG> I love the way you were integrating pedagogy with technology!! Definitely the way to do!
[20:49] <cheri> protein bars
[20:49] <PeggyG> hard to narrow all of that down into a single keen experience!! I love hearing the stories!
[20:49] <cheri> what is keener?
[20:50] <PeggyG> we take so much foregranted here in the US! such a valuable learning experience in South Africa!
[20:51] <cheri> Welcome Sue
[20:51] <PeggyG> wow! no internet access!!
[20:52] <cheri> So the Intranet is so valuable
[20:52] <durff> so a keener is someone who is keen on something – has it been that long since our parents talked that
[20:52] <PeggyG> it sounds like a life-changing experience for all of you!!
[20:53] <durff> they STOLE the wires?
[20:53] <Sharon> copper has value
[20:53] <cheri> not just once
[20:53] <PeggyG> how large were their classes?
[20:53] <Sharon> large
[20:54] <noble> varied from 50 to 100+
[20:54] <John_Schinker> 40 students in SA was not uncommon. Much larger in Kenya
[20:54] <PeggyG> wow!!!!
[20:54] <John_Schinker> Some pics:[email protected]/collections/72157621979922033/
[20:54] <durff> i lost connection (gotta love Comcast in rural PA) so no sound for a bit
[20:55] <John_Schinker> It’s just people talking, Durff. You didn’t miss much πŸ™‚
[20:55] <csitterley> John-will you please share your video that was shared on twitter-it is powerful
[20:55] <jackiegerstein> Gret pics John
[20:55] <John_Schinker> umm.. The one of me just talking about challenges?
[20:55] <PeggyG> the one about how you can help???
[20:55] <csitterley> Yes, John
[20:56] <cheri> How did your experiences change your focus in the classroom?
[20:56] <PeggyG> that is such an important point!
[20:56] <John_Schinker> @csitterley this is the video you’re talking about
[20:56] <durff> john – your hilarious
[20:57] <PeggyG> what a great solution–wireless adapters!
[20:57] <noble>
[20:58] <csitterley> Thanks, John
[20:58] <durff> Have middle schoolers who crave global interconnections?
[20:58] <durff> Only John could do this
[20:59] <PeggyG> that peer review process for flat classroom sounds fantastic, Durff!
[20:59] <durff> @Peggy you could be an expert advisor and a judge!
[21:00] <cheri> @durff – I’m both
[21:00] <PeggyG> I was on your blog post today Durff! I’m thinking about that πŸ™‚
[21:00] <durff> DO IT!!
[21:00] <PeggyG> those are exactly the same things that teachers in NA say πŸ™‚
[21:00] <durff> John likes fish?
[21:01] <cheri> How can they continue to get the professional development they need without Internet connectivity? Without visitors with resources?
[21:02] <John_Schinker> Durff: that’s our little secret
[21:02] <durff> can they access a connection on their cellphones?
[21:02] <John_Schinker> cheri: that’s a big challenge. In SA, we were able to connect them with a Ning so they can build learning communities. In Kenya, it’s a lot harder.
[21:02] <PeggyG> patience is very good advice!
[21:03] <durff> A Ning? Which one?
[21:03] <John_Schinker> we set up one specifically for them. Several, actually.
[21:03] <durff> Can the world join?
[21:04] <PeggyG> do they also use this one?
[21:04] <csitterley> SOunds like you learned lessons that we all need to learn and to help others understand
[21:04] <cheri> Welcome JodyM
[21:04] <JodyM> Hi
[21:04] <durff> @John can the world join their ning in SA?
[21:05] <noble> yes they use the twb-canada site: and their ning:
[21:05] <PeggyG> what a great point! more inclined to make what I have work for me!
[21:06] <PeggyG> that really puts things into perspective!
[21:06] <cheri> that reminds us that it’s not about the technology – it’s about the pedagogy – the learning
[21:08] <PeggyG> how much of this experience have you shared with your students/teachers?
[21:09] <durff> The Lion King?
[21:09] <durff> oh boy!
[21:09] <John_Schinker> @Peggy I talk about it to people who are interested. I try really hard not to overwhelm / bore them.
[21:09] <John_Schinker> @durff there’s a lot of swahili in Lion King.
[21:10] <PeggyG> I’ll bet it’s hard not to be sharing it when it was such a powerful experience!! Not sure I could do it!
[21:10] <csitterley> Maybe we owe it to people here to be less patient with their immediacy-their demands-maybe it will help them to try to work things out for themselves
[21:10] <John_Schinker> @Peggy there are lots of outlets for that — don’t worry, it’s not staying all bottled up.
[21:11] <cheri> We North Americans can be very impatient when we’re not supported the way we want to be – adult temper tantrums
[21:11] <PeggyG> that’s so true about impatience–if it doesn’t work the first time it’s tried they say "forget it"
[21:12] <PeggyG> that would be so excited to have a spontaneous skype call from Kenya!!
[21:12] <cheri> Or – "your the tech person, you fix it" – while they are trying to get their own students to be problem-solvers
[21:12] <cheri> "you’re the tech person"
[21:12] <PeggyG> yes cheri!! interesting contradiction
[21:14] <PeggyG> that personal experience really made a big difference! much more engaging for the students because it was so real!
[21:14] <cheri> modeling is multi-faceted … sometimes we forget that … we model the obvious and forget about the little things
[21:14] <csitterley> Truly living Global Connectedness
[21:15] <PeggyG> you got to meet Obama’s step mother? exciting!
[21:15] <John_Schinker> grandmother
[21:15] <cheri> john talked
[21:17] <PeggyG> profound statement, Noble!!
[21:17] <John_Schinker> Mama Sarah: and
[21:18] <PeggyG> the ripple effect from the drop in the ocean!!
[21:19] <PeggyG> thank you Noble!!
[21:19] <cheri> thanks Noble!
[21:19] <noble> thanks for the opportunity all and hope to see you join us on our web site!
[21:19] <PeggyG> sometimes it just takes time to see the difference you really made!
[21:20] <PeggyG> good point John!! reasonable expectations!
[21:20] <cheri> flexibility!
[21:21] <PeggyG> I’m sure an important key was responding to their needs and not just bringing in what you through they needed
[21:21] <cheri> The overall theme of this team is selflessness – it was all for them – adapt to their needs, to what was available
[21:22] <PeggyG> your stories really bring this experience to life for me!! thank you so much for sharing them!
[21:23] <cheri> sounds like good teaching!
[21:23] <PeggyG> listening for the teachable moments!! what great advice!
[21:23] <PeggyG> chocolate for you for for them?
[21:23] <cheri> something we should be doing with our students in our classes
[21:23] <Sharon> brown-outs
[21:23] <durff> i’ll take chocolate
[21:24] <PeggyG> how did you do it?
[21:24] <PeggyG> flip videos, portable recorders, battery powered laptops–fantastic!
[21:24] <cheri> me too durff
[21:24] <cheri> and your peanut butter
[21:25] <durff> cellphones in this country and in Europe get online – is it via satelite – can they as well in Africa?
[21:25] <PeggyG> what powerful feedback!!
[21:25] <John_Schinker> yes.
[21:25] <John_Schinker> They can get internet in some places with cells. but it’s very expensive
[21:25] <durff> they could blog, twitter, manage email from cellphones
[21:25] <durff> I do this all from an old cellphone
[21:26] <durff> via Dial2Do
[21:26] <PeggyG> πŸ™‚ hakuna micada!! πŸ™‚ not sure how to spell it but I can relate!
[21:26] <durff> someone would just need to set these up before going out into unconnected country
[21:26] <PeggyG> what an awesome team!!!!!
[21:27] <John_Schinker> Notice how she waited until Noble left before saying that πŸ™‚
[21:27] <durff> shhh!
[21:27] <cheri> clapping!!!
[21:27] <PeggyG> that was such an incredible experience and I’m so glad we have been able to hear this!!
[21:27] <LesleyE> This has been inspiring, thank you!
[21:27] <cheri> this has been excellent
[21:28] <PeggyG> we should save our WOWs of Week for next time!!
[21:28] <PeggyG> this has been so inspiring!!
[21:28] <cheri> Wonderful – thanks to all of you for coming tonight
[21:29] <PeggyG> huge thanks to the team!! you have definitely inspired me!!
[21:29] <csitterley> THe TEAM could be welcomed in most schools here to demonstrate that
[21:29] <PeggyG> let’s save them to next week
[21:29] <Sue> Thanks this has been inspiring!
[21:30] <John_Schinker> I’d like to point out that we stopped recording EdTechWeekly about an hour ago and it’s *already* posted. Jmad rocks. πŸ™‚
[21:30] <cheri> Wonderfully WOW’d
[21:30] <PeggyG> too funny John!!
[21:31] <csitterley> @John-I think it is because of the new chat room….
[21:31] <PeggyG> I’m sure this did have a big impact on your families too!
[21:31] <LesleyE> WOW indeed!
[21:31] <durff> in 3D
[21:31] <PeggyG> yes take us out Sharon!! we’ll be back on the first Sunday in December–our shows are first and third Sundays
[21:32] <durff> WOW in 3D – that’s a wow!
[21:32] <PeggyG> That will be December 6th–hope you can all come back!
[21:32] <PeggyG> fantastic conversation tonight!!
[21:32] <durff> don’t forget to sign up for another global project at
[21:33] <PeggyG> no first and third Sundays πŸ™‚
[21:33] <LesleyE> Thanks!  Wonderful conversation.  Your enthusiasm is infectious.

[21:33] <PeggyG> oh yes Nov. 15 is the next show!! sorry!
[21:33] <durff> and shinker who knows too much….
[21:34] <csitterley> Thanks everyone-Have a good week
[21:34] <durff> night!
[21:34] <LesleyE> Bye!


Africa, Cheri Toledo, Jody Meacher, Lois McGill-Horn, Noble Kelly, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, TWBC, Teachers Without Borders Canada, education, john schinker

WOW2 Show #114 (or so) Teachers Without Borders and Tribute to Jen Wagner

Tribute to Jen Wagner




















Tribute to Jen Wagner – our WOW2 founder!


Tonight (May 26th) was the last night Jen Wagner was with us as a WOW2 host.


Team members from Teachers Without Borders Canada join us for a lively conversation about their upcoming trip to South Africa and Kenya to provide professional development workshops for needy teachers.


Please consider joining our TWB community at

We are also looking for donors of Flip cameras for teachers who would like to be involved in a global project with a class in either of those countries.


Please support John Schinker’s proposal to win a Flip camera to take with us to Africa:


21:04:31 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I’m hearing edtech a

21:04:34 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Mr. Chase   πŸ™‚

21:04:36 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: now we can begin = i am here

21:04:40 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: audio good

21:04:42 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Hey Sue  πŸ™‚

21:04:43 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: audio great

21:04:50 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I think many of us are shifting over from eluminate and M wesch

21:04:54 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: dragging in one more person

21:05:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: sop, what is the future of WOW2.0 now that JDub is moving on?? Hopefully it continutes

21:05:26 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Sharon’s carrying the mantle.

21:05:30 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: so far I only hear Sharon tho…haven’t heard Jen

21:05:31 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: On break until Seeptember

21:05:34 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: and then — who knows

21:06:02 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: everyone but Sharon is low

21:06:23 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: in 20 seconds you should hear us

21:06:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Got it Jen…so you might stay on next fall??

21:06:33 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: Peggy too soft

21:06:40 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: ahhh Nope 

21:06:42 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: πŸ™‚

21:07:18 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: cool Jen…audio is better now

21:07:24 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Jody Meacher

21:07:26 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: hearing everyone now

21:07:27 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:  Sharetabs for tonight πŸ™‚

21:07:28 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: can hear everyone

21:07:35 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: peggy speak

21:07:37 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk:

21:07:44 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: cough cough

21:07:50 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: every say sth

21:08:22 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:09:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: is K12 09 happening btw??

21:09:19 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: amazing line up of people

21:09:26 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: I was just wondering that the other day…..

21:09:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:09:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Yep, wiac 09 was fantastic…very organic

21:09:33 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: about K12 ONLine

21:09:37 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk:

21:10:42 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: WiAOC2009

21:10:53 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: It is a great analogy

21:10:56 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: great funny and thought provoking post

21:11:01 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: @matt — I have not heard about K12 — but when I asked — I was told I was early in asking

21:11:30 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: weird, because I thought by this time last year proposals were in

21:11:34 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: archives, as edited, uploaded to

21:11:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: but who knows

21:11:41 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: @matt agreed

21:11:49 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: wonder what is going on…??

21:12:02 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @matt remember they extended the dealine, but started accepting by now

21:12:03 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: I heard it will be soon

21:12:16 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that sounds about right Derrall

21:12:30 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: let’s all get durff through the week first

21:13:11 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:13:18 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk:

21:13:29 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:13:31 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Listen carefully Durff — Mac is saying HEY

21:13:42 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: hey Mac!

21:13:47 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:14:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: You always find such fun links to share Cheri!!

21:14:02 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk:

21:14:21 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: like duck, duck, goose?

21:14:35 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that’s exactly what it reminded me of Durff!!

21:14:40 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk:

21:14:40 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: kind of like addictomatic, then.

21:15:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: It’s not too late to change your mind Jen!!!!

21:16:05 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: smiles, thanks Sharon   πŸ™‚

21:16:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: A name is everything with a web 2.0 company…Google, Twitter, etc-all great names

21:16:14 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk:

21:16:14 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: She’s going to be the first guest, right?

21:16:22 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: louder

21:16:30 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: I need the clapping hands like in Elluminate

21:16:32 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: LOL — for your new show in September — Teachers Without Borders

21:16:38 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Steve is so excited about DropBox that it’s hard to resist!!

21:16:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: πŸ™

21:16:44 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: cannot hear Sharon

21:16:50 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: funny story about Drop Box and Steve

21:16:57 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk:

21:17:03 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Drop Box was mentioned at EdubloggerCon — 3 times……

21:17:08 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: no, don’t go Jen!!!!

21:17:13 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: but it didn’t click with him until April

21:17:25 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: LOL, Matt — need to.  But thanks

21:18:09 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I heard that story JenW–isn’t it amazing how that happens sometimes–it takes the right moment for things to click!! πŸ™‚

21:18:11 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @JenW…I hear you, but we’re going to miss you on Tuesday nights!!!

21:18:49 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I’m so excited to hear the team talk about Teachers Without Borders tonight!!!

21:20:06 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks Matt  πŸ™‚

21:21:55 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @JenW agree with Matt, how are we going to get through the week if we don’t get to hear you’re heartfelt laugh once a week

21:22:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: It’s Mr Chase!

21:22:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: How was this particular team put together?

21:22:30 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: Elmer’s

21:26:09 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: It’s going to take something stonger than that, Mrs. Durff. Maybe a staple gun.

21:26:20 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: if you have any questions — please post them here

21:26:30 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: we will pass them on to Sharon and the team

21:26:39 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that background really helps to understand the context for TWB Sharon!! Thanks.

21:26:55 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Ohhh — we need to choose COLORS — far LEFT ICON!!!!   πŸ™‚

21:27:06 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: I call black.

21:27:13 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: choose your own adventure color

21:27:23 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: that is what I say about performance pay and more money…while I certainly wouldn’t mind making more money, it is farcical in a way to think that I’m going to be more motivated for more pay or something like that…

21:27:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: do you meet the teachers before you go to Africa–those that you will be mentoring?

21:27:27 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: I call (sighs Cheri picked my color)

21:27:50 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: mine has a tan

21:27:53 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Okay — 2nd choise — PURPLE

21:27:56 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: We’re starting to make connections with some of them. Using Moodle.

21:27:57 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: or CHOICE

21:28:23 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Do you know in advance what some of their interests/needs are?

21:28:31 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: but I like TEAL

21:28:31 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: red for a Passionate Redhead team member

21:28:44 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: John is the wires/box guy

21:28:59 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: @JDub…Teal, so circa ’92 πŸ™‚

21:29:00 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Oh, yes. We’ve been working quite a bit with the NGOs on the ground regarding their needs, and we’re trying to tailor the workshops to their needs.

21:29:12 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: What is your date that you leave??

21:29:19 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: crum Matt — I was so hoping to hit circa ’82

21:29:25 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: JohnS-can you talk about that a bit on the Skype call?

21:29:27 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: Right after NECC —

21:29:40 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: and what is a NGO??

21:29:42 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: ahh…thanks for that date Jw

21:29:50 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Sharon will talk about it. We just have to feed her some ideas here.

21:29:53 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Non government organization

21:29:56 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: We’re using google docs to organize he workshop schedules. Once we’ve a working draft, we share it out for feedback.

21:30:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: ok πŸ™‚

21:30:01 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: She’ll take a breath in about 35 more minutes.

21:30:10 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: probably — she is on a roll

21:30:12 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: non-governmental organizatinos – NGO

21:31:02 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: I kept it brief so she had no idea what she was in for.

21:31:33 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I’m a HUGE fan of group skype chats…

21:32:42 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I love that question!! It has my mind spinning. πŸ™‚

21:33:02 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: are there things you are expected to bring/pack and things you’re not allowed to bring?

21:33:45 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: Get your shots JS πŸ˜‰

21:34:00 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Can you drink the water????

21:34:00 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: what shots did you get for the trip?

21:34:25 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Got the shots. Seven holes in the arm.

21:34:42 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: We can drink the water in SA. Not so much in Kenya.

21:34:56 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: what a great idea!! creating the RSS feeds to learn current happenings in Africa and Kenya πŸ™‚

21:35:15 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: I’m guessing there will be some other cold beverages for the team to sample along the way πŸ˜‰

21:35:27 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: we are bringing one more person into the conversation — Betty Ann

21:35:36 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Sadly, Matt, those selections are a bit limited.

21:35:40 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: What an exciting conversaton tonight!!!

21:36:33 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: it would be cool if there was some decent local varieties to sample…you’ll probably stumble across PBR or something like that πŸ˜‰

21:37:09 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: There are a few, Matt. But I’m planning to learn a bit about the fruit of the vine. I hear Sharon’s quite the expert.

21:37:22 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: not that there is anything wrong with PBR πŸ˜‰

21:37:32 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: ahh…that’ll be fun.

21:37:51 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: well gang, I gotta get crackin’

21:37:53 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: how do you know that you’re preparing training for resources that will be available to them in their classrooms?

21:38:04 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Thanks for all of your support, Matt.

21:38:15 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: still in the office here and the last I checked I don’t get paid for OT

21:38:39 [Message] matt montagne -> -EdTechTalk: yep, looking forward to keeping up with the TWB 2009 Team’s progress

21:38:43 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: How is your trip financed?

21:39:37 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: If we join the TWB-Canada Ning, what are some things you might like us to contribute? How can we help??

21:39:38 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: Team members didn’t know about the getting up early bit

21:40:01 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:40:54 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Here are some ways you can help:

21:41:16 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Oh, and if you haven’t voted yet… πŸ™‚

21:41:21 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: John — how are you in the Small Grant (sorry don’t remember what it is called)

21:41:27 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: ahhh — you beat me to the link

21:41:37 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: I’m SECOND.. Can you believe that? Demoralizing.

21:41:37 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Excellent, JohnS!! Very helpful info!

21:44:51 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: that’s a really big question!!

21:44:55 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: Is pedagogy loaded with culture? Paolo Friere had a lot to say

21:45:20 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: if you concluded that it "was" imperialistic" would you still go?

21:45:22 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Can there be culture-free pedagogy?

21:46:42 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: I think culture impacts your pedagogy, but I am continually amazed at the commonalities in pedagogy across many differenct countries and cultures.

21:47:27 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: why oh why have I not been checking twitter this eve…this is MUCH better than terrible tv πŸ™‚

21:47:39 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: πŸ™‚

21:47:48 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: so glad you’re here Kristin!

21:47:48 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Betty Anne and Sharon: How did your relationships with and attitudes toward your colleages in NA change after your trip?

21:47:50 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: horrible tv doesn’t start for 2 more hours here   πŸ™‚

21:48:05 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: Hi Kristin

21:48:18 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: @kerisin- really missing AI?

21:48:25 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: What we teach is quite geo-centric, but how we teach can, I’d like to believe, be geo-neutral.

21:48:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:  Sharetabs for tonight in case you missed them earlier πŸ™‚

21:48:33 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: @linda YES πŸ™‚

21:48:42 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: @Kristin can’t spell tonight

21:48:45 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: although now I can get back into my WOW time

21:49:02 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

21:49:22 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk:

21:49:26 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: @khokanson this is the season finale of WOW2.

21:49:40 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: aaargh John NO

21:49:54 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: unless you want to do it next week, of course πŸ™‚

21:49:54 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: wow! what a challenge!!

21:50:25 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: no live from NECC this year?

21:51:02 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: We’re actually leaving for Africa FROM Necc…

21:52:24 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Do you plan to blog while you’re there? How do you plan to share your experience both during and after??

21:53:27 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: I, for one, will be blogging about my experience. I’m pretty sure most of the team will be doing similar things. We’ll also be posting regularly on the TWB-C site as well, both during and after the trip.

21:54:51 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: Let’s not foget flickr.

21:55:06 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: forget

21:55:22 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: ICT = information and communications technologies.

21:56:03 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: yes zac PICTURES πŸ™‚

21:56:30 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk: No tech will be turned away.

21:56:43 [Message] mrchase -> -EdTechTalk:

21:57:09 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: From Jody:

21:57:20 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: My blog:

21:57:44 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: We all know your site JohnS — I think it was a ??? on our Posse Competition   πŸ™‚   was it not

21:57:46 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk:

21:58:05 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Will you be twittering

21:58:17 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: Bandwidth permitting, yes.

21:58:37 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Take over Sharon!!

21:58:57 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: you could always do like the astronaut and email your tweet to someone

21:59:09 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: We need your help to create our wordle!! Please drop 3 words into the chat that describe Jen for you

21:59:25 [Message] JenW -> -EdTechTalk: tired, tired, tired    πŸ™‚

21:59:28 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I’ll add them to the wordle immediately and then share the link with all of you and Jen!!!

21:59:36 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: No can’t use those Jen!!

21:59:55 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: learner collaborator caring

21:59:57 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: 3 words that immediately come to your mind when you think of Jen!!

22:00:26 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: I was listening to ETW #3 last week, and these guys were absolutely head-over-heels about the WOW pilot

22:00:31 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: any others???

22:00:51 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: kind generous caring trustworthy

22:00:52 [Message] khokanson -> -EdTechTalk: connected, kind & funny

22:01:07 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: energetic sharing darling

22:01:13 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: sharing, laughing, smiling, helping, caring

22:01:23 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: that is not three

22:01:35 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: right!

22:01:37 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: yours wasn’t either

22:01:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: mine is new math

22:01:54 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: mine too!

22:01:56 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: mwow!

22:01:59 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: I want to add laughing to mine then

22:02:00 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: meow

22:02:17 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: wait I like sharing too

22:02:23 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: go for it!

22:02:26 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: web2 instead of web2.0 ?

22:02:51 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: wow highbrow futuristic

22:03:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk:  how many years?

22:03:05 [Message] JohnS -> -EdTechTalk: uh oh… it’s the cliffhanger ending…

22:03:11 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: wow

22:03:46 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: kleenex all around

22:03:59 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

22:03:59 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: i”m crying. are you?

22:04:08 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: sniff sniff

22:04:15 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Here’s our tribute to you Jen!!!! We love you and will miss you!!

22:05:11 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: thank you all for adding your words–Jen is the one who inspired us to use a chat room to create a Wordle!! You are the best Jen!!!!

22:05:24 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: indeed

22:05:32 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: Oh THAT IS what is has done for me

22:05:47 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: walking by and recognize your face

22:05:54 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: it was my chance to hear and listen to those who I had only read from blogs or on twitter

22:05:55 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: through a window no less

22:05:57 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: hope to see the gang at NECC

22:06:09 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and have you come out to hug us

22:06:11 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: This has always been a special place to connect with people- a home on the web

22:06:23 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: I’ll be wearing my WOW shirt and carrying my WOW mug!! In honor of Jen!!

22:06:31 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and invite us in to eat with you, Meg, and Konrad

22:06:36 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you so much Jen!!

22:06:50 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk:

22:06:56 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: @peggy our WOW shirts will become collector items

22:07:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: and Jen who was an honor to meet at Educon

22:07:30 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you to all who shared about TWB tonight!!! You have us all very excited!!!

22:07:54 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: where is the clap button?

22:08:07 [Message] PeggyG -> -EdTechTalk: Good night everyone! sniff-clap-sniff-clap….

22:08:09 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: thanks everyone!!

22:08:12 [Message] sroseman -> -EdTechTalk: Thank you all …

22:08:16 [Message] Cheri T -> -EdTechTalk: see you in the fall

22:08:31 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: thank you WOW2.0 and JenW

22:08:41 [Message] sharonp -> -EdTechTalk: Thank YOU!

22:08:56 [Message] LindaN -> -EdTechTalk: Thank YOU WOW2.0 and Jen!

22:09:03 [Message] derrallg -> -EdTechTalk: night

22:13:04 [Message] mrsdurff -> -EdTechTalk: night all……



Cheri Toledo, Jen Wagner, Jody Meacher, Peggy George, Sharon Peters, Teachers Without Borders, Zac Chase, education, john schinker

WOW2 Show #113 with Robin Ellis

May 12, 2009

Robin Ellis joins us for our lively discussion about Open PD

Instructional Technology Specialist in the Quakertown Community School District in Quakertown, Pennsylvania. She has been working in the


instructional branch of the technology department for the past 8 years. Her job focuses on working with teachers and students in the classroom on anything that relates to technology and the curriculum. Robin currently maintains the Connecting Through Conversations blog, she teaches an online professional development course OpenPD with Darren Draper. She has presented at several conferences including the Pennsylvania Educational Technology Conference (2005, 2008), EduCon2.0 2008, Utah Coalition for Educational Technology (2008) and the Pennsylvania School Board Association Excellence Fair (2007).


About Open PD

Open PD is an open staff development course that any teacher, administrator, or technology specialist can join to learn more about the many free, online tools that can be used to enhance your teaching.


Classes are held once weekly, in five week blocks, with the global participants joining the face-to face participants in Utah, USA using



Ustream and the Open PD wiki.

Robin Ellis Sites:

Our delicious tag for the show: wow2_20090512

Cheri Toledo, Jen Wagner, Open PD, Peggy George, Robin Ellis, Sharon Peters, education, instructional technology