Making Connections #34

What web tools does every teacher need? 

Chat:

19:00:27  sheila A – Hi
19:00:39  Cathy E – can we skype you
19:01:07  sheila A – ok
19:02:40  kingre – I don’t hear anything!
19:03:24  ballardfr – I don’t either
19:04:12  dougsymington – hi all
19:04:44  dougsymington – don’t have voice capabilities at present, but listening on stream
19:04:52  Cathy E – sorry
19:06:55  dgoodman – hello everyone
19:07:04  dougsymington – hello
19:07:38  dgoodman – hi cathy
19:07:52  dgoodman – fell off the face of the earth, so to speak
19:09:04  dgoodman – just need a google account not gmail
19:09:36  sheila A – @dgoodman – that’s what I thought too
19:09:40  dgoodman – voicethread, social bookmarking, google docs, wiki and blogs
19:09:43  dougsymington – gmail spam filters have allowed me to use accounts that had been useless due to spam
19:10:10  dougsymington – I have 5 email accounts that come in through Gmail–helps manage the deluge
19:10:18  dgoodman – our middle and high school students really need to know about diigo
19:10:35  dgoodman – yes, sunshine
19:10:38  dgoodman – sure
19:12:46  mrsdurff – hey!
19:12:50  dgoodman – hi durf
19:12:55  sheila A – Hi!
19:13:04  dougsymington – @mrsdurff "in the house"
19:13:46  mrsdurff – we could say mr symington in the house
19:13:57  mrsdurff – please don
19:14:19  mrsdurff – my mic somehow doesn’t work but earing does
19:14:41  mrsdurff – this is the last USB with any sound at all
19:14:44  Cathy E – please list your top 3 web 2.0 tools
19:14:47  mrsdurff – hi!
19:15:15  dougsymington – this is perhaps a bit more "advanced" than beginner tool
19:15:25  mrsdurff – favs: Google Reader, twitter, classblogmeister
19:15:29  helenotway – Hi all
19:15:32  dougsymington – but I keep coming back to twemes
19:15:34  etalbert – Hi all!
19:15:39  mrsdurff – hi
19:15:43  dougsymington – Hi
19:15:57  etalbert – google-all apps, del.icio.us, slideshare
19:16:04  mrsdurff – i like wikispaces best
19:16:07  dougsymington – http://twemes.com/makingconnections
19:16:09  mrsdurff – wetpaint?
19:16:22  dougsymington – haven’t used wetpaint, but many like it
19:16:38  mrsdurff – it’s confusing to me
19:16:40  dougsymington – keep coming back to wikispaces, myself
19:16:42  etalbert – Hard to do 3, since they have different purposes
19:16:43  dgoodman – have seen wetpaint, seems to be user friendly
19:16:54  mrsdurff – yes i like wikispaces
19:17:24  dougsymington – VoiceThread is another one that powerful, and relatively easy to use
19:17:27  dgoodman – photo shring sites are great to use as well – ovi
19:17:27  etalbert – If I did another wiki, I’d try wetpaint
19:17:30  mrsdurff – yes
19:17:41  dgoodman – @etalbert  I agree
19:17:47  mrsdurff – wetpaint is confusing
19:17:53  mrsdurff – hi jpecke
19:18:01  jepcke – Hi Durff!
19:18:25  jepcke – Who’s the guest tonight?
19:18:26  etalbert – Photo sharing – I use picasa – it’s google again!
19:18:34  dgoodman – twitter and edtechtalk has become my prof dev of the time
19:18:38  dougsymington – all great tools–we forget that FF an Skype are new to so many
19:18:50  dgoodman – yes tey are doug
19:18:51  etalbert – To get it all going – Firefox for browsing.
19:19:27  jepcke – We have FF on all computers, but students have to use Safari due to our proxy server easier to filter
19:19:31  etalbert – Now Twitter, but only because of a google gadget!
19:19:31  dgoodman – network is sooooo important
19:19:48  sheila A – @dgoodman – I rely on twitter and edtechtalk now too.
19:20:05  etalbert – Yep, filtering, now that’s a vexed question!
19:20:55  etalbert – I like diigo groups too.
19:20:59  dgoodman – good bedside manners are important with your tech folks
19:21:29  dgoodman – and your secretary
19:21:39  jepcke – and your custodian
19:21:43  etalbert – Who has a secretary?
19:21:59  dgoodman – school secretary…
19:22:32  etalbert – We use admin. staff.
19:22:54  jepcke – Oh I love Scratch!
19:23:38  dgoodman – 21classes is like that too
19:23:57  jepcke – What’s 21classes?
19:23:58  etalbert – Wordle has some interesting possibilities.
19:25:31  mrsdurff – hi mjsamberg
19:25:47  mjsamberg – Hi!
19:25:51  etalbert – What will happen with all this "intelligent chat"?
19:26:03  dougsymington – it will be archived
19:26:04  mrsdurff – it is archived
19:26:08  dougsymington – and posted with audio
19:26:13  dougsymington – hi Ben
19:26:17  mrsdurff – so anyone can view it later
19:26:21  mrsdurff – hi ben
19:26:29  Ben Hazzard – hi folks
19:26:38  Ben Hazzard – Just back from dinner!
19:26:46  Cathy E – Hello Ben
19:26:49  dgoodman – http://21classes.com
19:26:57  dougsymington – excellent, welcome
19:27:01  dgoodman – hi ben and mark
19:27:05  etalbert – Sorry, I am new to this, view latter, for PL?
19:27:22  Ben Hazzard – Doug, Cathy, MrsDurff, dgoodman, et al… it is great to join you!
19:27:39  dgoodman – did we loose sound or is it me
19:27:50  dougsymington – still on here
19:27:53  mrsdurff – yes etalbert
19:28:04  kingre – I do not have sound
19:28:12  dgoodman – sound is very weak
19:28:19  mrsdurff – click on ETT A
19:28:21  dgoodman – that’s ok
19:28:24  mrsdurff – black icon
19:28:26  dougsymington – click on the icons on the rigt side of this page
19:28:37  dougsymington – for stream
19:28:54  dgoodman – nice and loud

19:29:07  mrsdurff – there is a beta version?
19:29:16  dgoodman – wow, gotta try that
19:29:27  mrsdurff – I have 3.8
19:29:28  dougsymington – @Cathy hey, I resemble that comment
19:29:31  Ben Hazzard – loving the forms
19:29:40  mrsdurff – you resemble?
19:29:46  mrsdurff – or ?
19:29:57  dougsymington – click once, an then r-click to add to conference
19:29:58  mrsdurff – resent?
19:30:00  dougsymington – I think
19:30:11  Ben Hazzard – using google spreadsheets  with form embedded in a webpage to take RSVPs for my inlaws anniversary
19:30:14  dougsymington – oh no, it’s resemble 🙂
19:30:23  mrsdurff – i think there i am disruptive
19:30:27  dgoodman – maybe mark can demo that for us
19:30:40  Cathy E – pdtogo.com
19:30:46  Ben Hazzard – Also great for collecting open ended response
19:31:01  etalbert – 21classes looks interesting!
19:31:08  Ben Hazzard – Too kind
19:31:20  Ben Hazzard – thanks!
19:31:35  Ben Hazzard – not true… we get multiple takes!
19:31:39  etalbert – Finally got sound! This is pretty cool!
19:32:12  dgoodman – is it frieda making a list
19:32:42  ballardfr – yes
19:32:45  kingre – Yes……Freda is making tthe list
19:33:02  dgoodman – You are welcome to use my wiki I created for a conf   – http://ncaect07.pbwiki.com
19:33:14  ballardfr – great, thanks
19:33:34  dgoodman – I met her cathy – she attended the Geocaching training
19:33:37  dougsymington – Cheryl Oakes had a great post today about UDL as well
19:33:41  dougsymington – brb with a link
19:33:59  dgoodman – I agree with cathy
19:34:07  mrsdurff – food? did someone mention food?
19:34:34  mrsdurff – i’ll take the vegan portion please
19:34:50  dougsymington – http://www.techlearning.com/blog/2008/07/assistive_technology_goes_main.php
19:34:58  dgoodman – I think with any project-create a rubric so students know exactly what is expected and then grade accordingly
19:35:31  dgoodman – fizz is great – just joined today
19:35:31  mrsdurff – on blogs – have them write blogs, and grade online
19:35:53  jepcke – @dgoodman That is very important for the teacher too. Many don’t know what they expect fromt he kids with regard to tech projects
19:35:54  etalbert – Wiki study guides – sounds good!
19:36:03  dgoodman – we are having someone in in a couple weeks to do training and then well have our own environemnt
19:36:20  mrsdurff – for audio podcasts – have them create according to rubric and have them grade each other’s work
19:36:33  mjsamberg – https://www.fi.ncsu.edu/fizz/
19:37:08  dgoodman – getting students use to reflective writing is great -will pay off as they get to higher grades – blogs are great for this
19:37:27  dgoodman – having srudents to respond to blogs first before writing their own
19:37:54  etalbert – Good point about wikis.
19:38:20  dgoodman – it has certainly made me look at roadkill in a diff light
19:38:43  dgoodman – dont you try to identify it
19:38:43  mrsdurff – roadkill? gross!
19:38:47  etalbert – Roadkill?
19:38:53  mrsdurff – yuckoo!
19:38:54  sheila A – http://www.ryejrhigh.org/roadkill
19:39:01  mrsdurff – not me thanks
19:39:12  dgoodman – h come on durf
19:39:16  sheila A – high roadkill # indicates # population
19:39:22  mjsamberg – Fizz sample sites: http://www.fareel.com, www.ccreel.com, hctube.hertford.k12.nc.us
19:40:22  dgoodman – @mark  first two links didn’t work
19:40:35  Ben Hazzard – Did you discuss the 3 things that are web 2.0 (and popular) that should not be shared with newbies?
19:40:53  mrsdurff – hi mjsamberg
19:40:56  mjsamberg – @deborah – they worked OK for me.  www.fareel.com and www.ccreel.com
19:40:59  jepcke – @ben Really good idea!
19:41:07  etalbert – Newbie kids or newbie teachers?
19:41:26  Ben Hazzard – Newbie teachers (I think) but both would be appropriate…
19:41:35  dgoodman – its very busy for newnies
19:41:36  mrsdurff – i use jott for that
19:41:37  jepcke – @ben What are you’re 3?
19:41:52  mrsdurff – on speed dial on the cell phone
19:41:53  Ben Hazzard – Twitter
19:41:58  mrsdurff – yup
19:41:59  dgoodman – links worked that time mark
19:42:03  dougsymington – funny
19:42:05  etalbert – It is the purpose not the tool.
19:42:06  mrsdurff – yes
19:42:23  dougsymington – was going to say the same thing–yes, Twitter has a tendancy to overwhelm
19:42:40  etalbert – I wouldn’t pick Twitter first for any teacher.
19:43:08  Ben Hazzard – microblogging sites, animoto, wikis/blogs
19:43:11  dgoodman – so many people tell me that they just dont get twitter but after they get more comfy with web 2.o in general they go bacl and look and get it
19:43:36  sheila A – That was me Deborah!
19:43:42  Ben Hazzard – microblogging = too confusing and don’t know the noise to vitamin ratio is too small
19:43:48  etalbert – I like twitter if we tweet mostly about professional matters.
19:44:02  dgoodman – its al in who you follow
19:44:04  Ben Hazzard – animoto – cool but shiny and not as well understood
19:44:06  dougsymington – Twitter makes perfect sense the first time you use it to find an answer to a particular question
19:44:21  etalbert – I wold start teachers with an igoogle page and go from there.
19:44:50  Ben Hazzard – blogging and wikis – without a good idea of the possibilities it is not going to take hold
19:44:59  dgoodman – same as you cathy
19:45:25  etalbert – This is definately where web filtering policies come in.
19:45:40  Ben Hazzard – My question when picking what people should do first: what do they already do in real life?
19:45:53  etalbert – A lot of what we are mentioning are blocked in my state in Oz.
19:45:58  dgoodman – gotta check out animoto more closely – have heard it mentioned quite a bit lately
19:46:13  Ben Hazzard – Do they have a digital camera? Then picasa, Flickr!
19:46:23  dgoodman – how about flip video camera
19:46:36  mjsamberg – What about the flip?
19:46:44  jepcke – Don’t think I’d show a newbie Second Life.
19:46:45  mjsamberg – Really cool piece of hardware.
19:46:49  mjsamberg – No.
19:46:58  dgoodman – no no no second life for newbie
19:47:15  etalbert – Media creation and sharing appeals to teachers and kids.
19:47:23  dgoodman – @mark loving the flip
19:47:25  Ben Hazzard – jepcke – excellent! stay away from SL… back up from the mouse!
19:47:33  jepcke – We are having great success with newbies and Moodle
19:47:41  etalbert – moodle is becoming popular here too.
19:47:43  jepcke – Newbies to tech that its
19:47:44  Ben Hazzard – loving the flip as well
19:47:45  mjsamberg – A few tools – I worry sometimes that we overwhelm teachers by showing them a ton of tools so that they dont’ know where to start.
19:47:51  jepcke – and we have an inhouse Moodle expert
19:48:00  dgoodman – @mark  I agree
19:48:34  etalbert – Identify the purpose and learning need and then pick tool, product etc
19:48:38  dgoodman – highlight a few at a time-show real application o the tool and then move on
19:48:48  Ben Hazzard – @mjsanberg – a multitude of options does not overcome knowing the professionals we work with.  INstead of rapid fire do the more individualized approach
19:49:05  jepcke – show them a site/tool that will help them solve a problem
19:49:16  mjsamberg – I’m going to do new teacher training differently – separate them by discipline and grade level to work with them in a less general setting.
19:49:30  Ben Hazzard – As what do you want to know?  What do tools do you use in your personal life?
19:49:32  jepcke – differentiate for techers too
19:49:46  Ben Hazzard – amen jepcke
19:50:00  etalbert – Yes, relevance to teaching subject is important.
19:50:17  jepcke – many mid-range tech users get turned off when things are always so basic
19:50:37  jepcke – and the hig-end users just check out
19:51:03  etalbert – The late majority need coaxing! What’s in it for me!
19:51:03  sheila A – Years ago, we used a rubric for our technology skills. Is there anything out there that has Web 2.0 concepts on rubric/continuum
19:51:10  jepcke – Some teachers think I’ve taught with it for so many years so I don’t need it now
19:51:14  sheila A – for staff
19:51:21  dgoodman – good discussion as usual -thanks cathy
19:51:26  jepcke – @etalbert Very true
19:51:36  dgoodman – Intel has a datbase of rubrics for blogs, wikis, etc
19:51:47  dgoodman – its been great
19:51:59  mrsdurff – I did nothing
19:52:06  mrsdurff – but it was fun
19:52:11  sheila A – Thanks!
19:52:20  jepcke – @durff your presence is always reassuring
19:52:27  mrsdurff – coolcatteacher has good rubrics
19:52:31  kingre – Thanks Cathy!
19:52:44  ballardfr – Thanks everyone!
19:52:49  Ben Hazzard – Thanks!
19:52:53  sheila A – thanks for the rubric leads!
19:52:54  etalbert – Bye all!
19:53:01  mrsdurff – i was trying to re-attach a resume to an email
19:58:46  dgoodman – I heard about that at NECC
19:59:46  mrsdurff – audio gone – anyone else or just me?
20:00:03  dgoodman – i still hear
20:00:29  dgoodman – i think teachers teaching teachers discuss that last week
20:00:34  mrsdurff – then i need a browser restart-thanks
20:01:01  dgoodman – i am
20:01:03  Cathy E – http://flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157605880686325/
20:01:45  dgoodman – he is a great presenter

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