EdTechWeekly#56 with bonus Open Content Declaration disussion

EdTechWeekly#56

with bonus Open Content Declaration discussion

December 2, 2007

December 8, 21:30GMT  – The Edublog Awards

This week’s Del.icio.us Links


Chat Log Below


18:27:33  John ->  Compelling audio, Jeff πŸ™‚ Aren’t you going to sing some Christmas carols or something?

18:29:44  jeff ->  yikes-  you were listening to the sound check?

18:34:35  John ->  mostly, it was just you breathing on ustream

18:35:41  John ->  do you know Lisa’s last name from the conference this week?

18:56:47  Cathy E ->  It does not sound bad to me

18:57:00  dave ->  my favourite part is the professionalism

19:01:03  JenniferW ->  do I hear COMPLAINING??

19:01:04  Cathy E ->  ya’ll sound like my inlaws

19:01:12  JenM ->  tee hee!

19:01:23  John ->  Still preshow, Jdub. The light, happy dave hasn’t joined us yet

19:01:31  JenniferW ->  ahhhh — that’s it

19:02:03  JenniferW ->  I voted for ETT

19:02:16  JenniferW ->  figured a vote for ETT was kinda a vote for WOW2 — right??

19:03:21  Durff ->  the washer?

19:03:29  Durff ->  he does the wash?

19:03:30  John ->  yeah, probably

19:03:43  jeff ->  I used to help, but I got fired

19:03:57  Durff ->  oh well

19:04:00  Gary ->  But he stays in the same room as the washer during the show?

19:04:21  Durff ->  must be in the basement

19:05:04  dave ->  http://www.onthemedia.org/episodes/2007/11/30/segments/89741

19:05:24  JenniferW ->  oh goodie — the old fashioned way

19:06:13  JenM ->  for Alice Mercer: http://www.weebly.com/

19:06:25  Durff ->  finishing lesson plans – not ignoring anyone

19:06:27  John ->  we should do a show on olpc/eee/other cheap computers

19:06:44  dave ->  we should get them donated to test πŸ™‚

19:06:48  JenM ->  http://www.readprint.com/

19:07:35  jeff ->  http://www.amazon.com/kindle

19:07:47  jeff ->  http://21apples.org/articles/2007/11/20/e-book-reader-that-might-be-worth-it

19:09:14  John ->  http://muve.gse.harvard.edu/rivercityproject/index.html

19:10:08  JenniferW ->  River City like Music Man??

19:10:49  John ->  trouble. with a capital T

19:10:54  dave ->  http://teachtech.education.uconn.edu/3require.htm

19:12:14  Cathy E ->     9/25/2002

19:13:01  Gary ->  Some classrooms may only have this level still.

19:13:19  susant ->  hello

19:13:20  JenM ->  http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/30/eye-fi-wifi-enabled-sd-card-finally-shipping … and … http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/01/eye-fi-embeds-wifi-into-your-sd-flash/

19:13:32  dave ->  hi Susant

19:14:10  susant ->  how do you manage to listen and chat at same time?  I’m no multitasker:-(

19:14:26  jeff ->  http://www.utterz.com/

19:14:28  John ->  we don’t listen to each other

19:14:35  susant ->  lol

19:14:42  dave ->  I don’t even listen to myself

19:14:49  jeff ->  http://claimid.com/about

19:15:14  John ->  http://www.labnol.org/software/download/download-camtasia-studio-free/1829/ and http://www.labnol.org/software/download/free-download-snagit-with-serial-number/1841/

19:15:20  dave ->  the most important thing to remember Susant is to take what works for you

19:15:27  dave ->  If the audio works

19:15:29  dave ->  just listen to it

19:15:34  dave ->  if you like the text… focus on that

19:15:43  dave ->  you’re the audience… you get to choose πŸ™‚

19:15:44  susant ->  Ok got it

19:15:50  lisaparisi ->  and dave, what if you like both πŸ˜‰

19:15:54  JenniferW ->  Backtrack – why do I want to have an OPEN ID???

19:16:09  dave ->  http://www.techsupportalert.com/review-linux-for-windows-users-part-3.htm

19:16:34  John ->  Jen: so you don’t have to register at each site — you just give them your openid.

19:16:58  JenniferW ->  excellent — I have Camtasia 5.0 — but it didn’t come with Snagit — downloading it now.

19:17:36  susant ->  why not vista?

19:18:00  lisaparisi ->  susan..vista is not backwards compatible

19:18:06  lisaparisi ->  causes many problems

19:18:08  Gary ->  Notice is says “normal” users.

19:18:11  susant ->  Ok

19:18:18  JenM ->  http://cit.ucsf.edu/embedmedia/step1.php

19:18:38  John ->  Jdub: separate link for snagit.

19:18:55  dave ->  people have complained that my language has been impolite

19:19:00  JenniferW ->  WOW, the new show is confrontational??

19:19:03  dave ->  so now… it’s ‘poop on you’

19:19:06  JenniferW ->  the new format???

19:19:21  jeff ->  http://edublogawards.com/

19:19:22  dave ->  I’m not even sure what the new format is πŸ™‚

19:19:36  JenM ->  the embedded media html generator is at: http://cit.ucsf.edu/embedmedia/step1.php

19:20:23  jeff ->  file:///C:/temp/dec02links.html

19:20:29  JenniferW ->  uhoh

19:20:32  lisaparisi ->  sound?

19:20:34  JenniferW ->  lost sound???  

19:20:37  JenniferW ->  just me??

19:20:41  lisaparisi ->  me too jen

19:20:41  jeff ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/forum/214

19:20:42  injenuity ->  lost sound here too

19:20:52  Cathy E ->  me too

19:20:53  lisaparisi ->  jeff?

19:20:56  Gary ->  Also here

19:20:59  susant ->  me too

19:21:17  lisaparisi ->  back again

19:21:22  JenniferW ->  yeah!!

19:21:23  lisaparisi ->  nope

19:21:25  JenniferW ->  and sighs

19:21:29  lisaparisi ->  lol

19:21:38  JenniferW ->  happens to the best of them — I guess

19:21:46  John ->  hang on — Jeff is fixing it

19:21:48  lisaparisi ->  I’m so glad I’m not the only one who has trouble streaming

19:22:00  dave ->  we’ll be back soon

19:22:08  dave ->  doo doo doo doop doo doo do do

19:22:16  lisaparisi ->  If Jeff has problems then it’s okay for me to also. πŸ™‚

19:22:19  JenniferW ->  singing Christmas carols here

19:22:30  lisaparisi ->  rockin around the christmas tree

19:22:30  dave ->  audio back?

19:22:32  injenuity ->  sound back

19:22:39  JenniferW ->  Ihtink Dave was singing jeopardy

19:22:46  susant ->  yes!

19:22:50  dave ->  oh christmas tree, oh christmas tree (right on JW)

19:23:07  JenniferW ->  lets play NAME THAT TUNE _- next time they drop the stream

19:23:42  dave ->  oh christmas tree, oh christmas tree

19:23:53  JenniferW ->  rocking around the Christmas tree —

19:24:03  JenniferW ->  next Christmas tree song ????

19:24:09  jeff ->  http://www.webcastacademy.net/forum/214

19:24:20  JenniferW ->  oh — LOL — are they back on???

19:24:20  jeff ->  http://evo08sessionscfp.pbwiki.com/

19:24:27  lisaparisi ->  yes

19:24:34  John ->  Refresh the ustream

19:24:40  JenniferW ->  just kidding — I knew

19:25:16  John ->  http://blogsforlearning.msu.edu/

19:25:49  lisaparisi ->  sound is good here

19:26:15  JenniferW ->  AHHHH — NOOOOOOOOOO

19:26:24  jeff ->  people listening to audio – go to https://edtechtalk.net/studio

19:26:24  lisaparisi ->  i didn’t even know about ustream

19:26:25  susant ->  no really?

19:26:26  JenniferW ->  he is moving us to USTREAM

19:26:46  JenniferW ->  stay in this chatroom???

19:26:50  JenniferW ->  or move ???

19:26:52  jeff ->  you can

19:26:58  jeff ->  or re-login there

19:27:02  JenniferW ->  I shall — and am listening to Ustream

19:27:10  dave ->  http://www.fatlester.com/articles/what-is-spam.htm

19:27:15  susant ->  hello again

19:27:24  jeff ->  ustream audio OK?

19:27:43  susant ->  no big difference here

19:27:47  lisaparisi ->  ahhh

19:28:50  JenM ->  http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071124/LOCAL/711240506/1196/LOCAL11 … and …. http://www.indiana.edu/~ceep/

19:28:52  JenniferW ->  it is a bit crisper — and NO 30 second delay

19:29:05  dave ->  fight fight fight

19:29:18  lisaparisi ->  Is there a pic or just the logo

19:29:38  loria ->  hi all is there suppose to be sound?

19:29:46  dave ->  yup

19:29:48  lisaparisi ->  in ustream lori

19:29:56  jeff ->  http://moodle.org/mod/data/view.php?d=13&rid=686

19:30:16  Durff ->  no

19:30:21  lori a ->  is there a link please?

19:30:29  jeff ->  http://wiki.contribs.org/Main_Page

19:30:31  susant ->  i”d have to know what you sound like usually

19:30:31  JenniferW ->  don’t be distracted by what you read  πŸ™‚  You sound fine

19:30:55  lori a ->  to the ustream?

19:31:05  John ->  http://www.katw.org/pages/about.cfm

19:31:12  jeff ->  https://edtechtalk.net/cmtc2007

19:31:12  lisaparisi ->  jeff I think you sound fine

19:31:22  jeff ->  thank you lisa

19:31:25  Durff ->  lori see the screen to your left?

19:31:30  lisaparisi ->  I just saw this link this week.

19:31:32  lisaparisi ->  Very cute

19:31:34  jeff ->  https://edtechtalk.net/studio

19:31:35  JenniferW ->  the wiki.contribs link wouldn’t open for me

19:31:52  lori a ->  yes thanks

19:32:02  Durff ->  got sound?

19:32:03  jeff ->  me neither now – must be down -worked a few minutes ago

19:32:04  dave ->  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071127-banning-wikipedia-at-school-good-idea-or-missed-opportunity.html

19:32:15  Cathy E ->  Good link – John I am going to use it this week

19:33:19  lisaparisi ->  I’ve been having this conversation with my librarian.

19:33:23  JenniferW ->  Then they are not teaching what PRIMARY SOURCE is — if they are using Wikipedia as an example!!!  That is the problem

19:33:27  JenniferW ->  not wikipedia

19:33:45  JenM ->  To make a Flip Book: (PC)_ – http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/FlipbookPrinter/ … and (Mac) See Movie Flipper – http://www.lamarchefamily.net/nakedsoft/

19:33:46  JenniferW ->  isn’t a primary source an EYEwitness??

19:33:50  JenniferW ->  to the event??

19:33:56  lisaparisi ->  yes jen…

19:33:59  dave ->  yes… and that is happening in wikipedia

19:34:01  JenniferW ->  isn’t wikipedia a secondary source

19:34:04  lisaparisi ->  wikipedia is a secondary source

19:34:15  lisaparisi ->  the question really is..is it a good source

19:34:16  JenniferW ->  unless someone WAS an eyewitness — RIGHT??

19:34:19  John ->  more on banning wikipedia: http://ryancollins.org/wp/2007/11/29/banning-wikipedia/#comments

19:34:22  dave ->  many different ‘primary events’ are being recorded in wikipedia

19:34:25  JenniferW ->  I let my kids use Wikipedia

19:34:36  JenniferW ->  but they have to back it up with other documentation too

19:34:40  JenniferW ->  never allow just ONE source

19:34:42  dave ->  of course

19:34:45  dave ->  same as anything else

19:34:48  JenniferW ->  yep

19:34:54  dave ->  yay

19:34:56  dave ->  we agree!

19:34:58  John ->  It depends on how accurate you need the information to be

19:34:59  lisaparisi ->  me too but librarian said, “If they have to confirm information on wikipedia, then why bother using it at all/”

19:35:05  JenniferW ->  I think that teacher wasted paper by posting the wikipedia stuff

19:35:11  lisaparisi ->  Totally missed the point about being an evaluator

19:35:24  lisaparisi ->  Jeff, you are making me feel so good tonight!

19:35:26  JenniferW ->  Dave — we almost always agree  πŸ™‚

19:35:35  jeff ->  http://englishteachinglab.blogspot.com/2007/11/english-grammar-practice-on-web.html

19:35:35  dave ->  you should confirm ALL sources

19:35:39  dave ->  always

19:35:47  dave ->  no source is ‘trustworthy’

19:35:48  jeff ->  http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/

19:35:51  John ->  use my favorite example, cheetahs. Wikipedia says they can run 70-75 miles per hour. Other sources claim 70 MPH, or even 60. But all I need to know is if I can outrun one in my car. And it turns out that I better have a pretty good head start.

19:35:59  jeff ->  http://freeprompter.com/

19:36:12  jeff ->  http://www.celtx.com/overview.html

19:36:20  JenM ->  for all the links we did and didn’t cover tonight: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202

19:36:21  JenniferW ->  clapping for FREEPROMPTER!!

19:36:24  JenniferW ->  how cool is that

19:36:28  jeff ->  http://befuddlr.com/

19:36:29  susant ->  great links

19:36:42  techicebreaker ->  Is there a way to save all of the links that are being presented?

19:36:43  JenM ->  to contribute links, add a del.icio.us tag of “for:edtechtalk”

19:36:59  John ->  http://60secondscience.org/

19:37:03  JenniferW ->  John was at Christa TOO???

19:37:09  jeff ->  you can see all of today’s links at: http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202

19:37:21  jeff ->  this chat log will also be archived

19:37:27  techicebreaker ->  Thanks Jeff!

19:37:33  JenniferW ->  sighs — was everyone I want to meet at Christa McAuliffe??

19:37:35  JenM ->  techicebreaker, you can go to http://del.icio.us/edtechtalk/20071202 and then click “save as” to save it into your own del.icio.us folder …

19:37:41  dave ->  i wasn’t πŸ™

19:37:47  JenniferW ->  almost everyone??

19:38:03  John ->  I wasn’t there. I just listened in

19:38:14  JenniferW ->  the format meeans voice changes??

19:38:55  John ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/

19:39:22  JenniferW ->  Ohhhh — not just links — now we have depth and conversation — I LIKE IT!!!

19:39:31  jeff ->  http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2007/11/criticizing-cape-town-declaration.html

19:39:44  dave ->  what? stephen downes disagrees?

19:40:26  John ->  http://opencontent.org/blog/archives/397

19:41:43  JenniferW ->  those are not comments — those are NOVELS………..much too much to read.  Will get a Kindle to read Stephen’s comments

19:42:59  Durff ->  lol

19:43:46  JenniferW ->  its much to academic for casual reading……everyone will have a viewpoint — and it will just get me confused even more

19:45:03  JenniferW ->  I understood the original site — its the viewpoints that are confusing me  πŸ™‚

19:45:33  JenniferW ->  I will wait for the Wikipedia article  LOL

19:45:45  John ->  aren’t you going to write it?

19:46:04  JenniferW ->  sighs — it would end up being very short — Ahhh, HUH??

19:46:21  John ->  That’s all you have to do. Someone else will pick up the ball from there.

19:46:46  JenniferW ->  If Jen had not mentioned this site — I would never have known about it.

19:46:56  John ->  πŸ™‚

19:47:10  JenniferW ->  so it can’t be a global standard if it is not known  — right??

19:47:10  JenM ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/faq

19:47:36  JenniferW ->  how could anything then though be a global standard  or universal??

19:48:05  JenniferW ->  now you have me thinking —- which might not be a good thing  πŸ™‚

19:48:54  JenniferW ->  is creative commons a global standard???

19:49:00  dave ->  not really

19:49:06  JenniferW ->  hmmmmm

19:49:11  dave ->  it’s a popular standard

19:49:20  dave ->  it works in alot of places

19:49:25  JenniferW ->  what is ??  can you think of soemthing that is a global standard??

19:49:38  dave ->  metric system

19:49:40  dave ->  no wait

19:49:43  Lee BAber ->  Hello

19:49:46  dave ->  there’s a countyr that doesn’t like it πŸ˜›

19:49:52  JenniferW ->  yes  πŸ™

19:49:59  JenniferW ->  too academic for us  πŸ™‚

19:50:18  JenniferW ->  is there anything you can think of that is a global standard??

19:50:33  dave ->  i wasn’t joking about the metric system

19:50:38  dave ->  it is a global system

19:50:40  JenniferW ->  I know you were not

19:50:53  JenniferW ->  it is accepted globally — but not used globally

19:51:21  JenniferW ->  and I am not joking about a global standard — I am really a bit perplexed here

19:51:57  lisaparisi ->  Heading off.  Thanks for stretching my brain just a bit more.

19:52:02  lisaparisi ->  Good night.

19:52:11  susant ->  gnight Lisa

19:52:12  John ->  Good night, lisa.

19:52:24  JenniferW ->  I don’t think so — not internationally

19:54:13  Durff ->  isn’t he always?

19:55:11  Durff ->  internetology?

19:55:18  Durff ->  that is original

19:55:48  Lee BAber ->  An interesting twist.. in the program I am in I am using the internet or specifically our comnty./ network/ etc and bringing it back to the institution..

19:55:59  Lee BAber ->  So they need us

19:56:00  Durff ->  Children!

19:56:03  Lee BAber ->  to make it real

19:56:36  susant ->  use the internet

19:56:44  JenniferW ->  I like the new format — as long as you don’t call Jen names  πŸ™‚

19:56:55  JenM ->  tee hee!

19:57:01  dave ->  is anarchist a ‘name’?

19:57:13  JenniferW ->  ahhh I thought you said antichrist  πŸ™‚

19:57:19  JenM ->  πŸ™‚

19:57:23  JenM ->  JW!! πŸ™‚

19:57:24  JenniferW ->  πŸ™‚

19:57:25  dave ->  ha

19:58:19  Durff ->  and it sbows that he is 12

19:58:54  JenniferW ->  but would students really do that — would you have done that??

19:59:05  JenniferW ->  are most students TRULY self — motivated??

19:59:11  JenniferW ->  not arguing – just wondering

19:59:30  JenniferW ->  my students would not

19:59:46  JenniferW ->  the majority would not

19:59:48  Cathy E ->  They will do what it takes to get the grade

20:00:02  John ->  right. but not necessarily a lot more

20:00:07  JenniferW ->  did I say I like this NEW format

20:00:17  JenniferW ->  age level???

20:00:20  John ->  changing your mind, jdub?

20:00:23  JenniferW ->  NO

20:00:30  JenniferW ->  I like the discussion

20:00:50  Durff ->  it’s raw – it’s real

20:00:57  JenniferW ->  its quite good

20:01:07  Lee BAber ->  I think they are going to participate.

20:01:14  JenniferW ->  I can’t find my headphones — or I would call in

20:01:45  John ->  new place…. they’ll turn up. congrats, btw.

20:01:49  JenniferW ->  I really LIKED it — I liked the off the cuff — non prepared chat

20:02:07  JenniferW ->  did you prepare — SORRY

20:02:08  JenniferW ->  LOL

20:02:10  susant ->  I liked it

20:02:25  JenniferW ->  I guess not scripted responses??

20:02:27  JenniferW ->  is that better

20:03:09  JenniferW ->  and you agreed to perhaps disagree — without name calling (well almost NO name calling)

20:03:13  JenniferW ->  it was good

20:03:14  JenM ->  some other “takes” on this – http://nogoodreason.typepad.co.uk/no_good_reason/2007/11/the-cape-town-d.html … and … http://www.funnymonkey.com/are-we-there-yet … and … http://www.tuttlesvc.org/2007/11/breadth-of-commercial-use.html

20:04:14  Cathy E ->  It’s Elementary did it not long ago

20:04:25  Durff ->  what?

20:04:56  jeff ->  To chime in, call jen

20:05:08  Cathy E ->  @Durff- the copyright show

20:05:09  JenM ->  iuistjen

20:05:54  Durff ->  ah copyright

20:06:38  Cathy E ->  http://www.learnnc.org/lp/multimedia/4596

20:07:09  JenniferW ->  sorry — GPL????

20:07:17  JenniferW ->  sometimes I don’t get all the acronyms right away

20:07:27  JenniferW ->  Global Personal Learning??

20:07:29  jeff ->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpl

20:07:36  jeff ->  The GNU General Public License (GNU GPL or simply GPL) is a widely used free software license, originally written by Richard Stallman for the GNU project. It is the license used by the Linux kernel. The GPL is the most popular and well-known example of the type of strong copyleft license that requires derived works to be available under the same copyleft. Under this philosophy, the GPL is said to grant the recipients of a computer program the rights of the free software definition and uses copyleft to ensure the freedoms are preserved, even when the work is changed or added to. This is in distinction to permissive free software licences, of which the BSD licenses are the standard examples.

20:07:38  JenniferW ->  ahhh wikipedia — I should have thought of that

20:07:45  JenniferW ->  thanks

20:08:28  John ->  sorry, jen

20:08:54  JenniferW ->  no worries — I just blank out on acronyms sometimes

20:11:46  alicemercer ->  Howdy?

20:12:03  susant ->  hi alice

20:12:42  alicemercer ->  What’s this on now?

20:13:08  susant ->  openeducation copyright doing away with text books

20:13:10  alicemercer ->  Well, not all would do it.

20:13:32  alicemercer ->  BUT…if 5% of California elementary sci teachers did it.

20:13:40  JenniferW ->  It is the new EdTechTalk Format on Sundays

20:13:47  alicemercer ->  Aha

20:13:50  JenniferW ->  a round table of chat

20:13:55  JenniferW ->  on a certain topic

20:14:37  JenniferW ->  I don’t have the link to what started the discussion — sorry

20:14:47  alicemercer ->  I still haven’t gotten a chance to share Intl. Human Rights Day. Either I’m gone, or Doug S. is gone.

20:14:52  jeff ->  http://www.capetowndeclaration.org/

20:14:58  jeff ->  http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2007/11/criticizing-cape-town-declaration.html

20:15:00  alicemercer ->  It’s next Monday.

20:15:07  dave ->  contiguity

20:15:12  dave ->  an ETT first

20:15:13  dave ->  nice one

20:16:03  alicemercer ->  Anyone interested or will I need to do an Alice’s Restaurant on it?

20:16:46  Gary ->  New textbooks today often come with on-line resources.  This may even increase the price but the resources are often not that good because they need to be constantly updated (e.g. biology textbooks) and the publisher is not willing to do that forever.

20:17:13  dave ->  and it doesn’t affect the bottom line att he publisher

20:17:22  dave ->  they need to ‘have’ an online resource

20:17:30  alicemercer ->  Gary, new social studies from Scott Forsman for elementary are in workbooks that are replaced each year.

20:17:39  alicemercer ->  Kids could write on text,

20:17:40  JenniferW ->  I think if parents started complaining about back issues due to weight of backpacks — and schools took a stand too — digital textbooks or online textbooks WOULD become the norm

20:17:50  alicemercer ->  no seperate work books, and printed in color

20:18:03  alicemercer ->  JW, Calif tried to deal with that.

20:18:03  JenniferW ->  and demand that they have current information and NOT outdated textbooks

20:18:16  JenniferW ->  its a huge mindset change

20:18:22  alicemercer ->  The back pack issue, cause there are no lockers in most schools anymore

20:18:31  JenniferW ->  and people are refusing to budge from the comfort zone and the “norm”

20:18:58  JenniferW ->  we could start a REVOLUTION……….I don’t mind being a Norma Rae

20:19:05  Gary ->  Text books have a use but they become outdated so quickly.

20:19:07  alicemercer ->  JW, the publisher were going to be required to split books into volumes

20:19:10  alicemercer ->  which is more money

20:19:23  JenniferW ->  it will not go away until people REFUSE to purchase

20:19:28  alicemercer ->  Well, there is a new adoption every 4-5 years here

20:19:31  JenniferW ->  just like gas prices — sorry

20:19:38  alicemercer ->  State pays for half…

20:19:53  alicemercer ->  JW, I hear ya

20:20:12  JenniferW ->  we might gripe — but the admin still buys —

20:20:23  JenniferW ->  I hate the weight kids are carrying in the backpacks

20:20:36  alicemercer ->  Well, the stuff at colleges is a laugh. Those readers cost a ton

20:20:44  alicemercer ->  And university is making money.

20:20:50  alicemercer ->  And professors too.

20:21:03  JenniferW ->  its a HORRID circle

20:21:21  alicemercer ->  They complained about publishers, but now the university has gotten into the biz with readers.

20:21:31  susant ->  school in 4 hrs!  bye all

20:21:39  Gary ->  Parents often want textbooks – one reason – so that they can take their kids on a holidy and the teacher can tell them what pages to cover.

20:21:45  JenniferW ->  How will ETT graciously accept the award when they are hosting the awards??

20:21:46  alicemercer ->  Adios Susan

20:21:55  alicemercer ->  Gary, well there is that.

20:22:08  alicemercer ->  I like online resources, but this is the funny thing…

20:22:24  JenniferW ->  This was an EXCELLENT discussion

20:22:29  Gary ->  I am not joking – they actually that question.

20:22:35  alicemercer ->  THe pub is not puttting up stuff. so like my son forgets his vocab and spelling list and has homework

20:22:44  JenniferW ->  ahhh John doesn’t want an hourly commitment  πŸ™‚

20:22:52  alicemercer ->  So I find resources from Matt Needleman and put up by teachers to get teh darn list

20:23:29  alicemercer ->  Shouldn’t publisher have that on the internet?

20:23:34  alicemercer ->  And not in PDF format?

20:24:07  alicemercer ->  Once again no Doug

20:24:12  JenniferW ->  No Doug??

20:24:22  JenniferW ->  and is there not Teacher Talk on Thursday ??

20:24:43  JenniferW ->  ahhh okay

20:24:47  JenniferW ->  thank you

20:25:00  alicemercer ->  It’s ELementary is on, when?

20:25:03  alicemercer ->  12/10?

20:25:05  JenniferW ->  Good show – thanks

20:25:11  alicemercer ->  Not tomorrow I hope, lol

20:25:18  JenniferW ->  and Jen — thanks for coming to see my new place!!

20:25:28  Gary ->  Nice format change.

20:27:00  dave ->  ‘night folks

20:27:03  dave ->  thanks Gary

20:27:32  JenniferW ->  do we have a time for the edublog awards??

20:28:42  jeff ->  2130GMT Dec. 8 (I think)

20:28:54  jeff ->  1:30pm PST

20:28:56  JenniferW ->  okay —

20:29:44  JenniferW ->  so if my wiki wins — should I accept or should MacsMom show up in Second Life??  πŸ™‚

20:30:45  JenniferW ->  wowow   1.5 hours with you all tonight.  Nice!!!

20:30:49  alicemercer ->  I don’t have a presence in second life, is there an audio only stream

20:30:59  JenniferW ->  Good night everyone!!  I do like the extra conversation!!

20:31:03  jeff ->  for edublogs, yes

20:31:14  jeff ->  we’ll be on ETT A and Ustream (we hope)

20:31:24  alicemercer ->  Excellent, thank you

20:31:25  JenM ->  Jeff: here it is http://montereyinstitute.org/index.html

20:33:43  Cathy E ->  night all

20:34:35  alicemercer ->  So Jeff, I can watch ustream even if I’m not in Second Life?

20:34:41  jeff ->  yes

20:35:06  alicemercer ->  Awesome thanks for info. Many nonSL types are wondering WTH to do.

20:35:14  alicemercer ->  I’ll try to share on my blog too.

20:35:37  alicemercer ->  I’m not ready to make that SL leap yet

20:35:51  alicemercer ->  Maybe next summer?

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