EdTechWeekly#197 / EdTechTalk #85 – ETT’s 6th Anniversary

EdTechTalk#85/EdTechWeekly#197
June
5, 2011

6 Year Anniversary Celebration of EdTechTalk#1

Chat Log Below



 19:00:45  Harold ->  Hi Dave
& gang
 19:01:22  dawn ->  thx
 19:01:59  Harold ->  Happy friggin’
Anniversary!
 19:02:41  Harold ->  I think I’m
listening on IceCast – working
 19:03:33  Harold ->  Icecast died –
now on ustream
 19:04:15  Harold ->  youz guys
& gals are experts!
 19:04:55  Harold ->  irony is OK,
but don”t be too cynical, IMO
 19:06:29  Harold ->  It’s hurting
right now
 19:06:50  JenM ->  content or audio
quality?
 19:06:54  Harold ->  audio, Jeff
 19:07:08  Harold ->  I was around
for that one
 19:07:27  canugurl ->  sounds okay
from here….
 19:07:31  Harold ->  Icecast kicks
in when listening to ustream
 19:07:42  Harold ->  I keep getting
double-speak
 19:07:43  Jennifer W ->  Happy
Anniversary!!
 19:07:44  JenM ->  is that Jdub????
 19:07:50  JenM ->  yeahhhh!
 19:08:06  Jennifer W ->  Sorry — I
have been AWOL —
 19:08:26  Harold ->  I have to keep
turning off one of the streams – weird
 19:09:37  Harold ->  I must say that
you folks were the leaders & a great inspiration – maybe not
tonight though πŸ˜‰
 19:09:39  Jennifer W ->  Jen — are
you still in IL???
 19:10:18  Harold ->  #84 Rocks!
 19:11:24  JenM ->  @JW … yes …
in Chi-town
 19:11:58  Jennifer W ->  When I
watch Cake Boss — Hoboken, I believe — I think of you, JenM 
πŸ™‚
 19:12:42  Harold ->  Eliminate is a
much better descriptor
 19:13:17  Paula Naugle ->  Can’t
hear anything what am I doing wrong?
 19:13:33  Jennifer W ->  Did you
click on the USTREAM LINK??
 19:13:39  jhando ->  @Paula the
Icecast worked for me
 19:13:43  Harold ->  click on one of
the options on the right, Paula
 19:14:10  Paula Naugle ->  Okay got
it. Thanks.
 19:17:00  Paula Naugle ->  This
looks like a vodcast when you click on ustream link.
 19:17:13  jhando ->  There’s now
video which is innovation.
 19:17:37  Harold ->  Technology is
the application of organised and scientific knowledge to solve
practical problems.
 19:18:05  Jennifer W ->  I think
EdTechTalk was a master of trying new things — which sometimes worked
and sometimes didn’t (grins) — but always trying new things
 19:18:07  Harold ->  I remember th
eearly shows as being very interactive (despite my crappy audio quality)
 19:18:18  Bud ->  Happy anniversary,
y’all.
 19:18:33  Harold ->  Hi Bud!
 19:18:34  Jennifer W ->  and using
us as guinea pigs….dragging us along to try new things as
well.   (esp chat rooms & video feeds)
 19:19:20  Jennifer W ->  and of
course — my all time favorite — POST SHOW!!!   LOVE
Post Show!!!
 19:20:04  jhando ->  I remember not
being able to paste links into chat…. hasn’t changed πŸ˜‰
 19:20:07  JenM ->  I used to say
“the convergence of messy and magical” πŸ˜‰
 19:20:08  Bud ->  What I always
liked about the space here is that y’all do – you ship – you get audio
out –
 19:20:58  Jennifer W ->  and when
Jeff or Dave did the 365 experiment??   that was
fun…..  
 19:21:11  jhando ->  Everyone’s
probably busier now with so many other technologies, talks, books, etc
in this space
 19:21:20  Jennifer W ->  I liked the
fact that you URGED us to fail — but you were there to help us
 19:22:03  Jennifer W ->  and how we
PUSHED things til they broke….just to see how far we could push
 19:22:34  Bud ->  I still miss the
guests.  Y’all’re good interviewers.
 19:22:44  Paula Naugle ->  Went to
first tech conference – NECC in New Orleans in 2004. Didn’t know what
they were talking about – podcasts, wikis, blogs, Nings, Moodle, etc.
Come away determined to learn. Boy that seems so long ago.
 19:23:29  Jennifer W ->  and another
memory — Jen’s husband waiting in the closet til the show was
over.   πŸ™‚  
 19:23:46  JenM ->  @JW .. oh, yay!
 19:24:27  Bud ->  But, Jeff – you’re
good at it.
 19:24:35  Jennifer W ->  where is
John Schinker???
 19:24:45  Bud ->  aw, heck
 19:24:50  Bud ->  I was responding
to him
 19:24:55  Bud ->   you are
a fine team.
 19:24:58  JenM ->  … at a family
picnic … he should be joining us soon
 19:25:05  Bud ->  I;’ll explicitly
mention Jen and Dave and Jeff. Bravo, TEAM.
 19:25:21  Jennifer W ->  you were
our twitter before twitter
 19:26:00  Bud ->  You know, maybe
interviews aren’t so good
 19:27:53  JenM -> 
http://www.delicious.com/edtechtalk
 19:28:14  Harold ->  LMS = snake oil
 19:28:30  Paula Naugle ->  I use
Edmodo as my LMS with 4th graders.
 19:28:41  Harold ->  yes, Dave – WP
is a better option than an LMS
 19:29:17  Cathy E ->  Don’t forget
that many of us in the US don’t have bandwidth either
 19:29:20  Harold ->  Oligopolies
rule Canada πŸ™
 19:29:45  Jennifer W ->  WordPress
began in 2003
 19:29:56  Jennifer W ->  so says
their website
 19:30:19  dawn ->  I wonder about
edublog verson. Does it allow students to have their own blog?
 19:30:37  Harold ->  but blogger is
not open source – own your data
 19:31:03  jhando ->  Unfortunately
we are driven by assessments here so Moodle is still best option ie.
gradebooks etc
 19:31:12  Jennifer W ->  DRUPAL —
what a headache — but what a triumph.   Learned a
lot but lost a lot of hair
 19:31:12  Harold ->  even Microsoft
shifted their Live accounts to WordPress
 19:31:34  Harold ->  Drupal is great
(for industrial strength applications)
 19:31:59  Jennifer W ->  being able
to tear drupal apart made me not hesitate at all with tweaking my word
press (self-hosted) blog
 19:32:01  JenM -> 
http://jmaddrell.blogspot.com/
 19:33:49  Jennifer W ->  crum—
where is Durff and Doug??   gonna tweet this out again
 19:34:49  Paula Naugle ->  Durff’s
at the beach.
 19:35:21  Jennifer W ->  @Paula —
thinking of past shows…..where are all the hosts?  

 19:36:32  Jennifer W ->  for 3+
years of my life — this was my Home on the Web
 19:36:33  Harold ->  social – on the
institution’s terms – is not social
 19:37:18  Bud ->  Oh,
Furl.  How I miss thee.
 19:37:29  Paula Naugle ->  I’ve only
attended a half dozen times. Need to add this to Google calendar so I
remember to come.
 19:37:30  Harold ->  I remember when
Furl was my social bookmark tool too πŸ™‚ went south just like Magnolia
 19:37:33  Bud ->  It’s true.
 19:37:56  jhando ->  Is this social?
 19:38:15  Harold ->  yes, it’s still
Bud’s message on Skype πŸ˜‰
 19:38:43  JenM -> 
http://jmaddrell.blogspot.com/2005_10_01_archive.html
 19:38:51  Bud ->  Why mess with what
works?
 19:39:57  Harold ->  CONTROL
 19:40:07  jhando ->  Rubrics are for
progress and improvement, gradual improvement
 19:41:03  dave -> 
http://wikieducator.org/User:Davecormier/Books/Educational_Technology_and_the_Adult_Learner
 19:41:06  jhando ->  Same things
happens in workplace ie. appraisals
 19:41:25  Jennifer W ->  If a
teacher only judges the project based on a rubric, I believe they will
miss a lot about the projects.   Rubrics (to me)
limit creativity
 19:41:47  Jennifer W ->  limit
uniqueness perhaps would be a better word choice
 19:42:36  jhando ->  Rubric should
be written by students
 19:43:07  jhando ->  It’s like goal
setting in learning process
 19:43:17  Paula Naugle ->  I find I
want to change project rubric after proects are turned in because I see
things I didn’t include on original rbric.
 19:43:36  jhando ->  @Paula v true
 19:45:06  jhando ->  Schools are
addicted to measuring unfort
 19:45:34  jhando ->  Or is it
parents addicted to it? Or governments?
 19:45:35  Paula Naugle ->  Rubrics
seem like easy way out when grading, definitely need to include a box
which require instructor to add comments.
 19:46:04  jhando ->  Students always
tell me that comments are the most important feedback
 19:46:06  jeff ->  we should start
our post show soon
 19:46:24  Cathy E ->  What about
ISTE?  Anybody going?
 19:46:38  Harold ->  “am I some kind
of idiot?” (I refuse to answer that)
 19:46:52  JenM ->  @harold … he he
he
 19:47:09  jhando ->  Question:
what’s the largest number of ppl in EdTechTalk chat over 6 years?
 19:47:16  Jennifer W ->  No — to
ISTE
 19:47:30  Paula Naugle ->  I’m going
to ISTE.
 19:48:12  dave ->  in the chat?
maybe close to 100 once…
 19:48:16  Jennifer W ->  It is WAY
too early for POST SHOW
 19:48:56  Jennifer W ->  I think the
night WOW2 had the Posse group on, we were close to 100.
 19:49:13  jhando ->  100 and nothing
broke?
 19:49:25  Jennifer W ->  we broke
skype before we broke EdTechTalk
 19:49:44  Paula Naugle ->  Hi Maria.
 19:49:47  jhando ->  there was a
time when skype broke often
 19:49:52  MariaK ->  hello
 19:50:00  jhando ->  now the
interface (at least on Mac) is broken πŸ˜‰
 19:50:12  jhando ->  hi MariaK
 19:50:20  jhando ->  where are u
from?
 19:50:37  MariaK ->  Thought i’d
catch the last 10 minutes instead of listening later!
 19:51:12  Bud ->  keep up the good
work, ysll.  Especially Dave. Because I’d hate for him to feel
left out.
 19:51:44  Cathy E ->  My staff gets
much more PD online
 19:52:09  JenM ->  An attempt to
describe informal PD via twitter: http://bigthink.com/ideas/38698
 19:52:10  Jennifer W ->  My staff
needs to start considering PD online
 19:52:50  Jennifer W ->  JenM — I
was #1 on that list….   it was nice of Scott to
include me.   πŸ™‚
 19:52:57  Paula Naugle ->  I’m
presenting an all day workkshop for 25 tech coordinators on Wed. I’m
very nervous.
 19:53:09  jhando ->  Accreditation
is probably number one factor for choosing pd events
 19:53:28  jhando ->  @Paula what’s
the focus of preso?
 19:53:37  Cathy E ->  We are using
the chat in Google Apps for PD
 19:53:53  Harold ->  those who own
accreditation, control the system
 19:53:56  Cathy E ->  very informal
– but it works
 19:53:59  Jennifer W ->  I list WOW2
on my resume
 19:54:01  Paula Naugle ->  Beleive
it or not they asked me to present Web 2.0 tools.
 19:54:16  MariaK ->  It also depends
on the school district. Some districts accept a variety of PD – not
just formal. We use a portfolio based PD reporting so my reflections
about how I learn and how it affects my practice can include EdTechTalk.
 19:54:22  jhando ->  @Paula good
luck with it
 19:54:32  JenM ->  Oh, yeah …
http://twitter.com/#!/jenwagner/status/76105131342561280
 19:54:42  dawn ->  @MariaK 
nice
 19:54:48  Paula Naugle ->  @jhando
Thank you.
 19:55:59  jhando ->  Why wld a
teacher care if they already are trained and earning their dough?
 19:56:10  Jennifer W ->  That post
was very easy to knee-jerk to if you did not read it
carefully.  He seemed to be knocking neighbor fence
conversations but he really was not
 19:56:11  Paula Naugle ->  Is there
any info on number of admins, principals, teachers, who blog?
 19:56:28  Jennifer W ->  NO NO NO —
not post show???
 19:56:31  Jennifer W ->  its too
early
 19:56:46  jhando ->  I wld estimate
there’s 1-2 in each school blogging, if that
 19:56:47  Jennifer W ->  HAPPY
ANNIVERSARY!!!!
 19:56:59  Cathy E ->  Ya’ll ROCK!!!
 19:57:09  Jennifer W ->  OH, we are
starting a new show in September — but will talk with you later
 19:57:11  Paula Naugle ->  Happy
Anniversary to you.
 19:57:32  Jennifer W ->  you will be
around in September???
 19:57:39  MariaK ->  So glad i could
be here to say Happy Anniversary. meet most of my best friends here!
 19:57:42  Jennifer W ->  and
remember the 24 hour sessions???
 19:57:42  jhando ->  Good on
everyone for sticking with it for 6 yrs
 19:58:33  Harold ->  nothing in life
is permanent
 19:58:43  Jennifer W ->  understood
but sadness
 19:59:07  Paula Naugle ->  You have
been responsible for helping so many to learn. Thank you.
 20:01:21  dawn ->  wow good for you
 20:02:01  Jennifer W ->  EdTechTalk
gave me confidence to talk out my thoughts…..so THANK YOU for all you
have offered generously to us all.
 20:02:30  dave ->  he’s just about
to say that he misses talking to us
 20:02:32  dave ->  anytime now
 20:02:45  dave ->  he’s going to say
“talking to you guys is something i really mis”
 20:03:28  JenM ->  @jw … great
point … “confidence to talk” … and I’ll add … ability to
summarize a whole bunch of stuff you are seeing out there in the world
 20:04:15  Paul Ellerman ->  WOW its
been 6 years!   Holy cow!! 
 20:04:52  Jennifer W ->  Dr Jen??
 20:05:31  MariaK ->  EdTechTalk help
me begin my new life – connected learning, connected classroom,
connected person. Gave me the energy to keep going. A new beginning. My
6 year anniversary of listening is July.
 20:05:40  Paul Ellerman ->  I
remember those old shows….
 20:06:07  Jennifer W ->  well if
EDTECHTALK is ending the season — WE HAVE TO HAVE A FINAL
CELEBRATION!!!
 20:06:23  sr ->  everything I know
about tech I learned at edtech talk
 20:06:30  Jennifer W ->  POST
SHOW!!!!!
 20:06:33  MariaK ->  Better than
EdTech Corpse!
 20:06:35  Harold ->  EdTechTalk Rulz!
 20:06:38  Jennifer W ->  …..happy
dance……
 20:07:29  Jennifer W -> 
CONGRATULATIONS …..  you have changed lives!!!
 20:08:03  dawn ->  200 shows = cake
πŸ˜€
 20:08:12  Jennifer W ->  POST SHOW
COMMENCES!!!
 20:08:43  Jennifer W ->  oops —
wrong button
 20:09:08  Jennifer W ->  we need a
memory show
 20:09:24  Jennifer W ->  how old ARE
Oscar and Posey now??
 20:09:30  dave -> 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe
 20:10:18  Jennifer W ->  he dressed
as a frog??
 20:10:34  Cathy E ->  they are sooo
cute
 20:11:10  JenM -> 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe/5752591501/in/photostream
 20:13:16  dave -> 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/opoe/5739269203/in/photostream
 20:13:36  JenM -> 
http://www.worldnakedbikeride.org/
 20:14:00  Jennifer W ->  I thought
that was your EdTechTalk set up area   πŸ™‚
 20:14:55  Jennifer W ->  I cannot

 20:14:56  JenM -> 
http://chicagonakedride.org/
 20:14:59  Jennifer W ->  but I will
next week
 20:15:10  Jennifer W ->  please
don’t make this your last show
 20:15:14  Jennifer W ->  but thank
you for POST SHOW
 20:15:47  Jennifer W ->  LOL —
gotta love topics on Post Show.   πŸ™‚
 20:16:04  JenM -> 
http://wiki.worldnakedbikeride.org/index.php?title=Halifax
 20:16:17  Jennifer W ->  EXACTLY !!
 20:16:29  Jennifer W ->  we must
have tried 10 different chat room scenarios
 20:16:34  Cathy E ->  can’t see the
chat on my ipad
 20:16:54  Jennifer W ->  I could not
paste URL eithers — or text
 20:16:58  dawn ->  chrome helps
 20:17:28  JL -> 
https://edtechtalk.net/EdTechTalk1_part1
 20:18:41  Jennifer W ->  the new
look (sorry it might not be new) is DRUPAL — or WordPress??
 20:19:08  dawn ->  gotta run..thanks
for the show
 20:19:30  sr ->  Thank you all…
gotta run too
 20:21:32  Jennifer W ->  do you
think your audience is much more TALKING than WRITING??
 20:22:05  Cathy E ->  I still have
my tee shirt
 20:22:17  MariaK ->  I still have my
WOW hat – thanks JenW
 20:22:19  Jennifer W ->  4th of July
Pops
 20:22:32  Jennifer W ->  wow, Maria
— you probably own the only one
 20:22:35  MariaK ->  Driving up to
PEI in July with Amanda from Brisbane
 20:23:32  MariaK ->  YEs sir
 20:23:45  MariaK ->  we must!
 20:23:55  MariaK ->  tell me how.
 20:24:01  Jennifer W ->  and you
must do the Anne of Green Gables tour — and take lots of pictures
 20:24:08  MariaK ->  Looking for a
place to stay as I type. yes
 20:24:21  MariaK ->  yes we are
through ed tech talk hosts
 20:24:44  Jennifer W ->  you have
THAT much property??
 20:25:10  Jennifer W ->  that’s a
lot
 20:25:22  Jennifer W ->  but not
like 30 million acres   πŸ˜‰
 20:25:33  Jennifer W ->  so it is
wooded
 20:25:47  Cathy E ->  will you have
internet out there?
 20:26:34  Jennifer W ->  how
exciting — congratulations
 20:26:36  Cathy E ->  welcome to my
world
 20:26:39  MariaK ->  @Cathy E –
unlike some folks who move and then lose their connectivity! πŸ™
 20:26:40  Cathy E ->  we have phone
box
 20:26:44  Cathy E ->  but no
broadband
 20:27:09  MariaK ->  What part of
PEI, Dave?
 20:27:11  Jennifer W ->  Do you have
room in your car, MariaK??
 20:27:23  Jennifer W ->  sounds
delicious
 20:27:24  MariaK ->  yes – we’re
leaving after ISTE
 20:27:39  Jennifer W ->  so it has
no buildings on it — you will be building??
 20:27:46  MariaK ->  Used to visit
PEI each summer for a few years.
 20:27:58  MariaK ->  Love the
Canadian maritimes
 20:28:15  Cathy E ->  my house is on
pilings – had to so we can get flood insurance
 20:28:55  JenM ->  Here is a cottage

http://www.48in48.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/20110604-032132.jpg
 20:28:56  Jennifer W ->  well I do
need to head out — but THANK YOU for this…… You all have helped me
greatly — and I do THANK YOU
 20:29:23  Cathy E ->  haha Jen
 20:30:36  Cathy E ->  we need to
have an edtech meetup at ISTE
 20:31:07  MariaK ->  Cathy – I won’t
ever forget when we met at ISTE, long ago. Can’t wait to see you again.
 20:31:24  MariaK ->  I can’t get the
links to work
 20:33:20  Cathy E ->  thanks for all
you have done
 20:33:24  JenM -> 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmaddrell/5797962884/
 20:34:06  MariaK ->  Thanks Jeff and
Dave and Jen. Great to hear you live! Thanks for everything.
 20:34:27  MariaK ->  no
 20:34:30  MariaK ->  not yet
 20:34:37  MariaK ->  surely –
 20:34:43  MariaK ->  yes I will
 20:34:51  MariaK ->  yes I am
 20:34:59  Cathy E ->  night all
 20:35:32  MariaK ->  Amanda will
bring her Aussie rum!

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