EdTechWeekly #97

EdTechWeekly #97
October 5, 2008
ThisWeek’s Del.icio.us Links


 18:44:37  dave ->  hi
 18:44:55  dave ->  call me backpllease
 18:55:52  mrsdurff ->  what #?
 18:55:57  mrsdurff ->  91?
 18:56:01  mrsdurff ->  99?
 18:56:15  mrsdurff ->  ty
 18:58:00  Gary ->  Too much pleasureabout the beer
 18:58:10  mrsdurff ->  dave justisn’t listening when we are obnoxious
 18:58:16  sheila ->  you mean thosesnarky people?
 18:58:23  mrsdurff ->  yup
 18:58:37  Gary ->  See they don’tpay attention to us in any case
 18:58:46  mrsdurff ->  the creamwill never rise
 18:58:58  mrsdurff ->  no gary theydon’t
 18:59:10  mrsdurff ->  when is thatsolstice thing?
 18:59:16  mrsdurff ->  hi alvin
 18:59:23  Alvin Trusty ->  hi
 18:59:26  mrsdurff ->  97 jen
 18:59:32  mrsdurff ->  hi mharm
 18:59:42  mrsdurff ->  welcome tothe chaos
 18:59:47  mrsdurff ->  brb
 18:59:50  mharm ->  hi there
 19:00:08  Gary ->  Hello mharm
 19:00:20  mharm ->  what topic areyou addressing this evening?
 19:00:29  Gary ->  You ask for itand then ignore us
 19:00:48  mrsdurff ->  hey parisi
 19:00:54  Lisa Parisi ->  hello durff
 19:01:08  Gary ->  He or she willlearn
 19:01:13  mrsdurff ->  mharm see?they are chaotic
 19:01:23  JenM ->  @mharm…http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
 19:01:27  mrsdurff ->  lotsa add
 19:01:41  JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
 19:01:44  mharm ->  sorry it shouldbe nharm- Naomi Harm thanks for the invite on Twitter
 19:01:59  mrsdurff ->  smart is notthe word i would choose
 19:02:00  Lisa Parisi ->  Hello Peggy
 19:02:03  mrsdurff ->  hi peggy
 19:02:26  PeggyG ->  Hi all-almostlost track of time!
 19:02:28  JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20081005
 19:03:00  mrsdurff ->  dippty do dah
 19:03:05  mrsdurff ->  hi pam
 19:03:11  Lisa Parisi ->  Hello Pam
 19:03:16  mrsdurff ->  hi cathy
 19:03:16  Lisa Parisi ->  Hi Cathy
 19:03:18  shoemap ->  Hi all!
 19:03:29  PeggyG ->  loving thestream!
 19:03:29  Cathy E ->  Hello All
 19:03:33  mrsdurff ->  jen does theintro better
 19:03:39  JohnS ->  :-b
 19:03:47  JL -> http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
 19:03:52  mharm ->  Greetingseveryonene-
 19:03:58  PeggyG ->  no video for me:-) I’ll enjoy watching you
 19:04:07  mrsdurff ->  dave is on amerry go round
 19:04:19  Lisa Parisi ->  How manybeams fit on that page?
 19:04:20  JenM -> http://mfeldstein.com/thomson-suing-zotero/ …http://www.zotero.org/documentation/word_processor_integration
 19:04:44  JohnS ->  Y’all have toexcuse Dave tonight, folks. He’s a bit disadvantaged on thehardware/software side.
 19:05:55  JenM -> http://www.tamaleaver.net/2008/10/04/thomson-reutersendnote-sue-george-mason-uni-over-zotero/
 19:06:32  JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/tools
 19:07:07  PeggyG ->  Now that isawesome Jeff! Great resource!!
 19:07:24  PeggyG ->  and we even getto rate them 🙂
 19:07:25  mrsdurff ->  yeah thatwould be useful
 19:07:46  Cathy E ->  Jeff- the pageis great
 19:07:56  Gary ->  Great idea!
 19:08:02  mharm ->  hmmm- lost audiofrom the mebeam
 19:08:09  PeggyG ->  I’ll bet thatlist is going to grow by leaps and bounds
 19:08:21  Lisa Parisi ->  how do wefind that on ETT?
 19:08:33  mrsdurff ->  I am
 19:08:36  JohnS ->  PrinterShare:http://www.printeranywhere.com
 19:08:40  PeggyG ->  can we sort thelist or is it just alphabetical order?
 19:08:42  JL ->  For now, link onForums/Tools up top
 19:08:54  Lisa Parisi ->  Ah..thanksJeff
 19:09:18  mrsdurff ->  idea – groupby tools?
 19:09:21  JL ->  If people areinterested, can add a more obvious link
 19:09:31  Cathy E ->  Ha – I wasusing PrintShare last week and all of a sudden people from India wereprinting to my printer
 19:09:32  PeggyG ->  you mean youcan print to your work computer from home? Wow!
 19:09:35  mrsdurff ->  yeah likepeggy said
 19:10:08  PeggyG ->  @Cathy E-nowthat’s a scary thought! how do you prevent it?
 19:10:09  dave -> http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html
 19:10:23  PeggyG ->  Yeah Dave!
 19:10:24  Cathy E ->  @ Peggy – Iuninstalled it
 19:10:25  Cathy E ->  :0
 19:10:51  PeggyG ->  delete! 🙂
 19:11:08  mrsdurff ->  finallysomeone tells the truth! kudos to dave
 19:11:21  Gary ->  iBook G4 – oursstill works great – new harddrive
 19:11:22  JohnS ->  Did the shelffall down?
 19:11:49  JenM ->  Ebook ReaderUpdates (Kindle and Sony) …http://mashable.com/2008/10/04/amazon-kindle-2/ … and …http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081003-sony-goes-after-kindle-with-new-touchscreen-ebook-reader.html
 19:12:25  PeggyG ->  what’s themaximum memory capacity for MacBookPro? Need more & thinnk I’mmaxed out
 19:12:45  mrsdurff ->  wow peggy – iwant to try that printshare!
 19:13:02  mrsdurff ->  my 8thgraders would love that!
 19:13:05  mharm ->  Thanks forsharing the printshare site with us!
 19:13:21  JL -> http://aceonlineschools.com/frippery-froth-a-user-critique-of-online-dictionaries/
 19:13:33  mrsdurff ->  mharm theirentire delicious links list is awesome
 19:13:41  mrsdurff ->  hi nancy
 19:14:05  nancykeane ->  Hidurff. 
 19:14:36  JL -> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
 19:15:27  mrsdurff ->  i let youpeople do it john
 19:15:37  mrsdurff ->  i just usethe stuff
 19:16:08  mharm ->  Editors are notusing a lot in our western Wi area- teachers are usingww.sites.google.com and are bypassing the html code
 19:16:17  Alvin Trusty ->  TheMicrosoft Live software is nice for publishing online
 19:16:46  JohnS ->  Splicd:http://www.splicd.com/
 19:16:47  Gary ->  @mharm – but htmlis so much fun
 19:16:55  mrsdurff ->  for you
 19:17:22  JohnS ->  Example fromRandy Pauch’s Last Lecture: http://splicd.com/ji5_MqicxSo/151/174
 19:17:38  mharm ->  I agree- i tooenjoy html- my teachers don’t have the time- or are nnot willing tolearn
 19:17:47  mrsdurff ->  welcome back
 19:17:53  Cathy E ->  @JS whatformat does it save it in?
 19:18:07  JohnS ->  It just pointsack to the flash vid
 19:18:07  PeggyG ->  rats! gotbooted out 🙁
 19:18:14  JohnS ->  back
 19:18:15  mrsdurff ->  because wehave people like you mharm
 19:18:21  dave -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman
 19:18:26  Gary ->  It is old Dave
 19:18:46  mrsdurff ->  hi angela
 19:19:17  angelamaiers ->  Hi there!How are you all doing tonight?
 19:19:29  mrsdurff ->  weekend istoo short
 19:19:43  mharm ->  Hi Angela!
 19:19:54  angelamaiers ->  Yes itis! Still working on getting sound!
 19:20:14  mrsdurff ->  click thearrow to your right
 19:20:25  angelamaiers ->  @Durff-put another 8th grade lesson up today-love to see what your kids think!
 19:20:28  PeggyG ->  is there a wayto back up delicious and diigo bookmarks?
 19:20:29  mrsdurff ->  the big arrowon the ustream thumbnail
 19:20:39  angelamaiers ->  Yeah-Ihave sound!!!
 19:20:54  angelamaiers ->  What istonights topic?
 19:21:01  nancykeane ->  Just thethought of losing my delicious bookmarks makes my stomach hurt!
 19:21:02  mrsdurff ->  i alreadyposted lessons angela
 19:21:16  mrsdurff ->  will have tobe another week
 19:21:19  angelamaiers ->  Nancy-me,too! Bad thought!
 19:21:32  dave ->  @gary yeah… iknow it’s old… i just don’t remember the mac hotkeys
 19:21:46  PeggyG ->  @nancykeane-metoo! never thought about it-just trusting–this show is scaring me!
 19:21:53  mrsdurff ->  edtechweeklyis a fast roundup of links
 19:22:01  mrsdurff ->  with a gameshow at the end
 19:22:02  JenM ->  VIDEO ScreenCapture Fox … http://www.advancity.net/eng/products/capturefox.html
 19:22:07  mrsdurff ->  $5
 19:22:18  mrsdurff ->  i wasexplaining to angela
 19:22:25  JohnS ->  It’s ten becausethey mentioned your name.
 19:22:26  dave ->  JenM tested [email protected]!??
 19:22:29  mrsdurff ->  notsuggesting anything dave
 19:22:36  angelamaiers ->  How doesit compare to snag it?
 19:22:40  mrsdurff ->  you aretouchy tonight
 19:22:44  dave ->  🙂
 19:22:58  mrsdurff ->  it’s thatapple computer
 19:23:17  nancykeane ->  OK justexported my delicious bookmarks. Feeling better.
 19:23:35  mharm ->  Jing Rocks!
 19:23:41  mrsdurff ->  did i missthat nancy
 19:23:49  mrsdurff ->  export themto what?
 19:24:00  JL -> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
 19:24:03  PeggyG ->  Jeff is anamazing Jing user-those short tutorials are so helpful!
 19:24:15  JenM ->  @dave can benasty …
 19:24:16  nancykeane ->  justexported them to my harddrive. Now I don’t have to worry about losingthem.
 19:24:30  angelamaiers ->  GreatQuestion!
 19:24:36  Gary ->  @ Dave – tryKeyCue http://www.macility.com/products/keycue/
 19:24:41  mrsdurff ->  oh i see nancy
 19:24:53  JL -> http://www.yuuguu.com/newsletter/2008/09/29/yuuguu-supports-linux-customers/?utm_source=newsletter_sep08&utm_medium=email&utm_term=linux&utm_campaign=yuuguu_email
 19:24:59  mrsdurff ->  what aboutcrossposting with Diigo?
 19:25:02  JohnS ->  Congress acts,sort of saves Internet radio:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080930-congress-acts-sort-of-saves-internet-radio.html
 19:25:21  mrsdurff ->  see how theyare?
 19:25:32  angelamaiers ->  Do youhave the Twitter Question link?
 19:25:50  JL ->  Twitter link:http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
 19:25:58  angelamaiers ->  Thanks JL!
 19:26:03  mharm ->  how aboutfavtape?
 19:26:29  mrsdurff ->  have we allseen Jango?
 19:26:39  Sarah S ->  Bummer . . thecapture fox addon is only for windows.
 19:26:52  dave -> http://www.nccmembership.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_WEBART/view.asp?Q=BF_WEBART_305924
 19:27:12  mrsdurff ->  go pc!
 19:27:27  PeggyG ->  @mrsdurff-don’tknow about Jango-tell us
 19:28:03  angelamaiers ->  Just dida presentation-asked 80 teachers about Web 2.0-only two could definewhat it was. Great link-thanks!
 19:28:13  mrsdurff ->  it’s herehttp://www.jango.com/users/16496175/edit?l=0
 19:28:27  mrsdurff ->  i love it!
 19:28:55  Alvin Trusty ->  Just dida workshop.  Asked 80 teacher about Delicious.  Onlytwo knew what it was.
 19:28:56  JenM ->  Simple CC FlickrSearch … http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
 19:29:11  mrsdurff ->  it startsplaying on it’s own
 19:29:44  Alvin Trusty ->  that’s aFlickr term
 19:29:48  mrsdurff ->  pizza parlor
 19:29:57  PeggyG ->  Jango is cool!Thanks!
 19:30:02  mrsdurff ->  $5
 19:30:03  Gary ->  I found thatstrange also
 19:30:32  mharm -> www.pics4learning.com
 19:31:00  Alvin Trusty ->  Here theinterestingness link – http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/
 19:31:03  JL -> http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Pays+for+Searching+Til+April+2009+Firefox+Users+Not+Welcome/article13100.htm
 19:31:16  mrsdurff ->  hi maggir
 19:31:20  mrsdurff ->  maggie
 19:32:02  JohnS ->  Pixel Pipe:http://www.pixelpipe.com/
 19:32:03  mharm -> http://ideas.wisconsin.edu (database collection copyright images)
 19:32:32  JohnS ->  SmushIT:http://smushit.com/
 19:32:54  PeggyG ->  glad youmentioned PixelPipe again-I bookmarked that and couldn’t remember whotold me about it.
 19:32:56  Alvin Trusty ->  here isanother CC image search site – http://www.behold.cc/
 19:33:29  mharm ->  You sound good
 19:33:33  PeggyG ->  not wonky for me
 19:33:37  dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_nanometer
 19:34:01  mrsdurff ->  hi msomustek
 19:34:23  msomustek ->  eee, hi.first time over here. saw it it twitter!
 19:34:30  msomustek ->  in
 19:34:42  Gary ->  Thanks Alvin
 19:34:48  mrsdurff ->  green likeKermit?
 19:34:58  JenM ->  Study CurveSocial Networking Site: http://www.studycurve.com/
 19:35:11  PeggyG ->  I thought youmeant cleaning up your desktop (green) 🙂
 19:35:18  dave ->  hey @msomustek
 19:35:24  Alvin Trusty ->  Floatyour machine in the ocean, ultimate green machine -http://gizmodo.com/5047050/google-patents-floating-server-farm-powered-by-ocean-waves
 19:35:30  mrsdurff ->  SimpleGreen -great product
 19:35:35  msomustek ->  hey dave
 19:35:48  msomustek ->  what’s thebenes over Ning w/studycurve?
 19:35:52  dave ->  @msomustek areyou getting the audio?
 19:35:57  msomustek ->  yes
 19:36:02  msomustek ->  sounds good
 19:36:13  JL -> http://www.spellingcity.com/
 19:36:19  dave ->  @msomustek thoseguys don’t really know what they’re taking about
 19:36:39  angelamaiers ->  I justchecked this out-spelling city is great!
 19:36:51  JL -> http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4917QU20081002?feedType=RSS&feedName=internetNews&rpc=22&sp=true
 19:37:22  JL -> http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
 19:37:30  msomustek ->  @dave whatguys in particular; most guys don’t know what they’re talking about :p
 19:38:10  JenM ->  Skype …http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
 19:38:23  mrsdurff ->  jutecht
 19:39:54  JohnS ->  MAA Minute Math:http://maaminutemath.blogspot.com/
 19:39:54  mrsdurff ->  a clip fromJLs past
 19:39:54  PeggyG ->  hahaha!
 19:39:54  dave ->  @msomustek johnis particularly problematic… he’s talking now
 19:40:13  mrsdurff ->  welcome backcathy
 19:40:33  angelamaiers ->  Hi Cathy!
 19:40:36  dave -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3353
 19:40:41  msomustek ->  might bebetter than Sudoku
 19:41:11  Cathy E ->  I ammulti-tasking and keep leaving chat – sorry
 19:41:30  PeggyG ->  some of us (me)are still trying to get caught up from week 1 of Connectivism
 19:41:34  mrsdurff ->  working tohard cathy
 19:42:09  JenM ->  George SeimensRecording from Madison Distance Learning Conf …http://mediasite.ics.uwex.edu/pyle4/Viewer/Viewers/Viewer320TL.aspx?mode=Default&peid=ee8c7a70-6cbc-4c05-8d4d-e493acb6d3e2&pid=8f6d878a-5b6f-45d4-b8f5-cd0d77a6d7f4&playerType=Port25#
 19:42:19  Gary ->  Some of usavoided it from the start
 19:42:23  mharm ->  Go WI!
 19:42:27  PeggyG ->  love followingthe conversations and glad to have YOU ask the hard questions 🙂
 19:42:28  mrsdurff ->  figures
 19:43:20  JL -> http://www.thelocal.se/14688.html   http://torrentfreak.com/slacker-uprising-bittorrent-takedown-sent-to-dns-provider-081002/
 19:43:29  mharm ->  WI has two unitsin WI- we are using for our WEMTA conference march 22-24, 2009
 19:43:38  PeggyG ->  Mediasite issometimes problematic on Macs–for some reason
 19:43:44  JenM ->  @mharm … I grewup in Lodi and went to Madison for by BBA …
 19:43:50  JenM ->  *my
 19:44:20  Gary ->  Michael Moore’smovie is also available through iTunes
 19:44:22  PeggyG ->  loveSlackerUprising-free rental from iTunes 🙂 29 days rental
 19:44:54  msomustek ->  it does
 19:45:01  mharm ->  I use to live inWest Salem, WI- am the CESA #4 tech director there- but now live inBrownsville, MN.
 19:45:08  mrsdurff ->  the policyapplies to dave
 19:45:17  JohnS ->  Spectra:http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i//msnbc/Components/spectra/spectra.html
 19:45:53  Alvin Trusty ->  Spectraworks with Firefox.
 19:46:05  PeggyG ->  haveSlackerUprising on my iPod today 🙂 wonder if it has the same 24 hourlimit for viewing that it does on iTunes>
 19:46:41  JohnS ->  I’m using itwith firefox.
 19:46:48  Gary ->  @Peggy – samehere – did not use iTunes
 19:46:51  dave -> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/police_iphone_left_in_hot_car_for
 19:46:52  mrsdurff ->  the look ofRSS to come – the future?
 19:47:08  JenM ->  PaperlessLearning Environments …http://digitaldialogues.blogs.com/learning_technologies/2008/09/the-paperless-l.html
 19:47:16  mrsdurff ->  cream of thecrop?
 19:47:33  Alvin Trusty ->  No,Michigan beat them at home.
 19:47:41  msomustek ->  yeah, lookscool @JenM
 19:47:42  mharm ->  Go WI- thanksfor mentioning the cheddar head state many times tonight!
 19:47:45  JohnS -> http://www.bucknuts.com/news/articles/2008/10/5/buckeyes-sing-happy-song-after-win-at-wisconsin
 19:48:02  dave ->  @mharm that wouldbe for Jmad.
 19:48:03  JohnS -> http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8639134?MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002
 19:48:06  JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
 19:48:34  PeggyG ->  have you seenthe CarbonRally challenges for going green? really informative and funto commit to different challenges
 19:49:22  JohnS ->  18th FirstAnnual Ig Nobel Awards: http://improbable.com/ig/2008/
 19:49:56  mrsdurff ->  why is therealways one last link fifteen times?
 19:50:20  PeggyG ->  too funnymrsdurff!
 19:50:31  mrsdurff ->  no cream ofthe crop?
 19:50:37  mrsdurff ->  boo!
 19:50:41  angelamaiers ->  Tonightsshow was GREAT!
 19:50:53  mharm ->  Thanks for agreat show tonight!
 19:51:05  msomustek ->  hahaha
 19:51:07  mrsdurff ->  oh no!
 19:51:09  PeggyG ->  must have acelebration coming up for show 100 🙂
 19:51:15  angelamaiers ->  Just onemore please…
 19:51:19  mrsdurff ->  it was fun!
 19:51:21  PeggyG ->  great show!!thanks!
 19:51:31  mrsdurff ->  ignore dave
 19:51:32  msomustek ->  where?
 19:51:48  mrsdurff ->  herehttps://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
 19:51:55  PeggyG ->  add somethingto Jeff’s list of tools? no problem 🙂
 19:51:56  JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/tools
 19:52:08  mrsdurff ->  so dave ishappy
 19:52:55  angelamaiers ->  Is therea link to cream of the crop tools
 19:53:09  mrsdurff ->  evidently not
 19:53:16  mrsdurff ->  tthey misledus
 19:53:24  mrsdurff ->  probably onpurpose
 19:53:25  angelamaiers ->  They needto make one!
 19:53:31  mrsdurff ->  i agree
 19:53:45  PeggyG ->  haha–ballotstuffing–do you care?
 19:53:50  mrsdurff ->  they had thatround on last week’s show
 19:54:05  dave ->  @PeggyG yes. yeshe does care.
 19:54:08  mrsdurff ->  ballotstuffing? not fair!
 19:54:17  mrsdurff ->  me
 19:54:22  Alvin Trusty ->  only forthis chat
 19:54:23  PeggyG ->  I’m on ETTevery day!
 19:54:24  DaveC ->  besides today?
 19:54:27  msomustek ->  stuffing,tools, cream . . . 😕
 19:54:28  sheila ->  rarely
 19:54:54  PeggyG ->  sometimes I login and sometimes I don’t-was on this morning
 19:55:12  angelamaiers ->  How iscapture fox different than Snag it
 19:55:46  Alvin Trusty ->  Is therestill a free version of Snag It?  My old link doesn’t work anymore.
 19:56:31  angelamaiers ->  N0-Ithink it is about 40 bucks-I love it-well worth it. Is Capture Fox free
 19:57:01  JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
 19:57:12  Alvin Trusty ->  how do Irate something in /TOOLS
 19:57:24  PeggyG ->  curious if youthink the weekly newsletter is contributing to the future of ETT?
 19:57:42  JenM ->  @angela …capture fox is free and it catpures video, but it appears to be Windowsonly …
 19:57:54  angelamaiers ->  thanksJen!
 19:57:57  mrsdurff ->  Peggy willvolunteer
 19:58:01  DaveC ->  you need avolunteer to do that too.
 19:58:19  Alvin Trusty ->  mycomment went into moderation.  how long until it makes thelist?
 19:58:31  mrsdurff ->  I volunteerto be a member at large
 19:58:43  PeggyG ->  I’m stillwaiting for some "role descriptions" before I volunteer for anythingmore
 19:58:57  msomustek ->  Maybe moredetail on… yeah, what @PeggyG said.
 19:59:05  dave ->  @Alvin irfan?
 19:59:31  PeggyG ->  I’m smiling atsome of these titles–pretty scary!
 19:59:51  angelamaiers ->  Have agreat night friends-gotta get kids ready for school Monday! Have aGREAT week!
 19:59:58  mrsdurff ->  how would onemoderate comments?
 20:00:01  PeggyG ->  Bye Angela
 20:00:15  mrsdurff ->  come againangela
 20:00:17  JohnS ->  Someone alreadyapproved them.
 20:00:29  Alvin Trusty ->  @dave yes
 20:00:36  dave ->  moderated it
 20:00:39  JohnS ->  BTW, if you login, you don’t get moderated.
 20:00:51  Alvin Trusty ->  @dave howdo I add a rating?
 20:01:04  mrsdurff ->  yeah so coulda dummy like me moderate comments?
 20:01:12  mrsdurff ->  john?
 20:01:18  PeggyG ->  interestingdistinction with Worldbridges and ETT-always thought it was the otherway around
 20:01:18  Cathy E ->  @ Alvin – areyou logged in on the ETT page?
 20:01:30  DaveC ->  So a communityLiaison type person…
 20:01:39  Alvin Trusty ->  @CE yes,had to be logged in to make a comment.
 20:01:52  Cathy E ->  Click thestars to vote
 20:02:12  Alvin Trusty ->  Triedclicking the stars.  Didn’t do anything… that I could tell.
 20:02:41  PeggyG ->  the ETTcommunity is very strong and growing–more and more people are cominginto to be part of the conversations on all of the shows and cite it asone of their primary resources. I do!
 20:02:52  mrsdurff ->  hey drezac
 20:02:54  DaveC ->  @Alvin, firstyou need to click on the tool name to open the page on it. Then you’ll see the voting stars
 20:02:56  Cathy E ->  @ AT click thetitle of the software first
 20:02:59  Cathy E ->  then the stars
 20:03:26  drezac ->  I know I’mlate, but I thought I’d see if I could cathc up
 20:03:40  Alvin Trusty ->  @CE triedthe main page and the program page.  I only see the averageand can’t click stars.
 20:03:42  Gary ->  Agree with Dave -am involved in other communities and often finances dominate what theleaders do (unfortunately).
 20:03:46  DaveC ->  I’ve been on anumber of committees and volunteer efforts, and the biggest problem ispeople keeping up with their commitment.
 20:04:27  msomustek ->  @DaveCabsolutely agree.
 20:05:05  PeggyG ->  I feel ifpeople feel their contributions are being valued (used) they willmaintain their commitment
 20:06:18  Gary ->  Agree with Jenalso – this is a place I come to that does not involve too muchcommitment on my part and I get away from other commitments
 20:06:53  PeggyG ->  There willalways be lurkers but some will get very involved and contribute a lot.It has worked great for 4 of us to share the newsletter work so eachdoes one week a month. Agree with your point
 20:07:50  drezac ->  People arestarting to have SOP many communities.
 20:08:15  drezac ->  We have tostart bringing them together or making a choice about where are timegoes
 20:08:24  dave ->  @drezac we dohave some somewhere… maybe https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
 20:09:25  DaveC ->  What aboutpeople who have an idea for an episode, but not for a series?
 20:10:10  DaveC ->  Still earlyadopters….
 20:10:15  PeggyG ->  if you use acommon tag for ETT shows we can save the search on Tweetdeck and nevermiss a show. I use ETT and podcast and webcast but I don’t get all ofthem that way. I follow ETT on Twitter too.
 20:10:23  sheila ->  Yes DaveC
 20:10:25  JohnS ->  yeah, DaveC.We’ve had that conversation, too. We used to do that in webcastathons.
 20:10:35  Cathy E ->  And you havethose of us who can’t get our show posted
 20:10:55  mrsdurff ->  so dideveryone volunteer for something?
 20:11:09  Gary ->  This show goesmuch further than those that participate each week.  Most ofus probably share many of the links.
 20:11:56  PeggyG ->  @Gary-excellentpoint–the show definitely goes mjuch further than those whoparticipate live and online.
 20:12:14  DaveC ->  Thesite/community is also mentioned on other shows.  Plus, didn’tDave just make top 100 list of people to follow on twitter?
 20:12:38  mrsdurff ->  i don’t thinkso
 20:13:39  PeggyG ->  didn’t you sayonce that there are many more people subscribed to the showhostnewsletter than actual showhosts?
 20:13:54  mrsdurff ->  true
 20:14:16  mrsdurff ->  communitieswaver, sway, change
 20:14:56  PeggyG ->  what do youmean pacify the community?
 20:15:19  dave ->  did i say pacify?
 20:15:29  PeggyG ->  true-not a showhost and not in Skype chat for showhosts
 20:15:47  PeggyG ->  yes-I probablyspelled it wrong 🙁
 20:15:50  mrsdurff ->  but we tellyou peggy
 20:16:16  PeggyG ->  I don’t feelleft out at all-I don’t need to be pacified 🙂 This is my favoritecommunity!
 20:16:26  DaveC ->  Download thelogs from China…
 20:16:42  mrsdurff ->  are thereshowhosts who are not in the skype chat?
 20:17:00  Gary ->  and probablythose of us that don’t participate at that level probably have reasonsfor that.
 20:17:03  PeggyG ->  Greatsuggestion Jen
 20:17:23  mrsdurff ->  watch outgary – dave in on a run
 20:17:31  dave ->  🙂
 20:17:33  DaveC ->  @Gary, right! Noone should take lack of participation for lack of appreciation or lackof caring. Sometimes it is just time.
 20:18:08  dave ->  well… that’strue for jeff
 20:18:10  mrsdurff ->  it wasn’tthat easy for us
 20:18:20  mrsdurff ->  were wespecial?
 20:18:33  mrsdurff ->  what wouldhappen? john would do it
 20:18:35  sheila ->  So a smaller"executive board?"
 20:18:39  dave ->  john does it now
 20:18:50  mrsdurff ->  exactly
 20:19:26  mrsdurff ->  please do JL
 20:19:31  Gary ->  @DaveC – thanks -I am deeply involved in 2 other groups – EdTechWeekly is part of myescape (as strange as that may sound)
 20:19:48  PeggyG ->  I think it’sthe names of all of those "commitees" that are scary 🙂
 20:20:41  PeggyG ->  this is a lotlike "parent involvement"-everyone can’t be involved in the same waysbut it doesn’t mean they don’t care.
 20:20:43  mrsdurff ->  volunteerPeggy
 20:21:10  PeggyG ->  I did volunteerto help with the newsletter
 20:21:15  drezac ->  This communityhas helped me in my early days of my career very much.
 20:21:24  sheila ->  Some people arevisionaries and others are doers; each can play a role.
 20:21:57  mrsdurff ->  and thatmight happen
 20:22:01  mrsdurff ->  🙂
 20:23:18  DaveC ->  Is there apriority of placement of people? Looking at the list, there are a lotof position and only so many people able to step up right now.
 20:23:28  PeggyG ->  yes Sheial-andsome are both visionaries and doers 🙂
 20:23:35  Gary ->  In groups I aminvolved in money is very important and takes a great deal oftime.  As a result those that are involved at that levelvolunteer or are elected for fixed periods of time.
 20:23:59  JohnS ->  It’s an ideal,with a lot of sustainability built in. Realistically, we would havepeople in more than one position.
 20:24:05  JohnS ->  Ghost runner onfirst.
 20:24:08  PeggyG ->  I don’t thinkthe "community" knows there is a need
 20:24:10  mrsdurff ->  what? I am
 20:24:17  mrsdurff ->  just multitasking
 20:24:24  sheila ->  @Peggy – Iagree.
 20:24:37  mrsdurff ->  i will get toit then – volunteering for sth
 20:24:42  drezac ->  This needs totip, a la the Tipping Point
 20:25:04  PeggyG ->  this show talksabout the organizational planning but it doesn’t get mentioned on othershows
 20:25:10  DaveC ->  Titles scare me,they don’t always describe the position.
 20:25:22  mrsdurff ->  a paypalbutton like we did for Lee
 20:25:32  Gary ->  Many groups haveexecutive directors who get paid to do the day to day work.
 20:25:48  drezac ->  5013c?
 20:26:04  dave ->  @drezac 75% donethe application process
 20:26:07  Gary ->  The executive maygive guidance but does not do most of the things
 20:26:10  JohnS ->  @drezacEducation Bridges is moving in that direction.
 20:26:16  drezac ->  Gotcha!
 20:26:30  sheila ->  We had some ofthe same issues with NHSTE – started looking in to Going from Good toGreat for non-profits. There are issues with volunteers.
 20:26:31  JohnS ->  501c3 isUS-specific, though.
 20:27:09  drezac ->  so you can’tget money from overseas…
 20:27:27  JohnS ->  we can, it justgets more complicated.
 20:27:33  Cathy E ->  So we just getrid of every bus
 20:27:45  DaveC ->  I can help withthat part… (hosting)
 20:27:50  mrsdurff ->  2009?
 20:28:38  PeggyG ->  some peoplemight be willing to make donations towards the server when they don’thave time to commit
 20:28:56  mrsdurff ->  i think so too
 20:28:57  Gary ->  Many of us wouldprobably pay for some sort of supporting membership
 20:29:06  drezac ->  Can anyone justcreate their own show here?
 20:29:07  mrsdurff ->  dave nixesall my ideas
 20:29:17  mrsdurff ->  you suggestpeggy
 20:29:21  JohnS ->  @Gary — thatalso gets odd in an International arena.
 20:29:23  PeggyG ->  Yes-andsometimes when people pay something they contribute more
 20:29:35  mrsdurff ->  drezac – yes& no
 20:30:05  JohnS ->  @drezac newshows addressed here: https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
 20:30:15  mrsdurff ->  most drezacgo thru webcastacademy
 20:30:26  mrsdurff ->  ah john foundit
 20:31:09  mrsdurff ->  benevolent?who said dave is kind?
 20:31:26  PeggyG ->  regardless ofsharing the "work" load I think there still needs to be leaders whocarry forward the vision
 20:31:30  dave ->  benevolence isn’talways about kindness 😐
 20:31:37  JohnS ->  (John had apretty good idea where it was)
 20:31:59  drezac ->  Got that. Ijust wonder if it were more open for creating content, that you mighthave a more give and take community
 20:32:59  mrsdurff ->  good pt therejohn
 20:33:19  mrsdurff ->  i think weshould
 20:33:30  mrsdurff ->  despite thenaysayers
 20:33:30  PeggyG ->  is there a"blurp" that we could post in the newsletter very week about this kindof involvement? lots of peopple get that newsletter
 20:33:36  DaveC ->  Does anyone knowwhere the majority of people are located who participate?
 20:33:49  DaveC ->  (or follow shows)
 20:33:51  mrsdurff ->  north america
 20:34:09  dave ->  @DaveC there’ssome stuff around somewhere
 20:34:19  DaveC ->  Oz/Nz educatorsgroup has "feasts" from time to time to bring the community closer andadd faces to voices.
 20:34:43  mrsdurff ->  you have oneDaveC then i will attend
 20:34:54  mrsdurff ->  if you sendthe cab
 20:35:05  drezac ->  Thanks so much.I will continue to check out, and be a part of the community, as longas it’s around.
 20:35:06  PeggyG ->  volunteers areessential–don’t need/expect to be paid
 20:35:06  DaveC ->  I’ll pick you upon the way 🙂
 20:35:44  Gary ->  Jeff – notice howmany people stayed on to talk about this – it probably is important.
 20:35:56  mrsdurff ->  waot – idon’t want paid
 20:36:18  mrsdurff ->  it is Gary
 20:37:10  DaveC ->  Well we’re doingNECAP testing tomorrow, so I guess I’ll write answers to some questionson the volunteer form.
 20:37:21  Cathy E ->  I love youJeff and Dave
 20:37:25  Gary ->  Thanks again!
 20:37:27  PeggyG ->  can you give ussome kind of plea/description we can put in the newsletter every weekto inform people about ways they can contribute?
 20:37:45  DaveC ->  hahah
 20:37:49  sheila ->  I want to seethat!
 20:37:55  sheila ->  "SEE"
 20:37:57  mrsdurff ->  i have workto do yet – miles to go before i sleep – nite!
 20:38:01  PeggyG ->  I didn’t knowthis conversation was about structure 🙂
 20:38:07  Cathy E ->  nite
 20:38:11  DaveC ->  nite all.
 20:38:22  JL ->  night all – thanks

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