18:44:37 dave -> hi
18:44:55 dave -> call me backpllease
18:55:52 mrsdurff -> what #?
18:55:57 mrsdurff -> 91?
18:56:01 mrsdurff -> 99?
18:56:15 mrsdurff -> ty
18:58:00 Gary -> Too much pleasureabout the beer
18:58:10 mrsdurff -> dave justisn’t listening when we are obnoxious
18:58:16 sheila -> you mean thosesnarky people?
18:58:23 mrsdurff -> yup
18:58:37 Gary -> See they don’tpay attention to us in any case
18:58:46 mrsdurff -> the creamwill never rise
18:58:58 mrsdurff -> no gary theydon’t
18:59:10 mrsdurff -> when is thatsolstice thing?
18:59:16 mrsdurff -> hi alvin
18:59:23 Alvin Trusty -> hi
18:59:26 mrsdurff -> 97 jen
18:59:32 mrsdurff -> hi mharm
18:59:42 mrsdurff -> welcome tothe chaos
18:59:47 mrsdurff -> brb
18:59:50 mharm -> hi there
19:00:08 Gary -> Hello mharm
19:00:20 mharm -> what topic areyou addressing this evening?
19:00:29 Gary -> You ask for itand then ignore us
19:00:48 mrsdurff -> hey parisi
19:00:54 Lisa Parisi -> hello durff
19:01:08 Gary -> He or she willlearn
19:01:13 mrsdurff -> mharm see?they are chaotic
19:01:23 JenM -> @mharm…http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
19:01:27 mrsdurff -> lotsa add
19:01:41 JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk
19:01:44 mharm -> sorry it shouldbe nharm- Naomi Harm thanks for the invite on Twitter
19:01:59 mrsdurff -> smart is notthe word i would choose
19:02:00 Lisa Parisi -> Hello Peggy
19:02:03 mrsdurff -> hi peggy
19:02:26 PeggyG -> Hi all-almostlost track of time!
19:02:28 JenM -> http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20081005
19:03:00 mrsdurff -> dippty do dah
19:03:05 mrsdurff -> hi pam
19:03:11 Lisa Parisi -> Hello Pam
19:03:16 mrsdurff -> hi cathy
19:03:16 Lisa Parisi -> Hi Cathy
19:03:18 shoemap -> Hi all!
19:03:29 PeggyG -> loving thestream!
19:03:29 Cathy E -> Hello All
19:03:33 mrsdurff -> jen does theintro better
19:03:39 JohnS -> :-b
19:03:47 JL -> http://mebeam.com/edtechtalk
19:03:52 mharm -> Greetingseveryonene-
19:03:58 PeggyG -> no video for me:-) I’ll enjoy watching you
19:04:07 mrsdurff -> dave is on amerry go round
19:04:19 Lisa Parisi -> How manybeams fit on that page?
19:04:20 JenM -> http://mfeldstein.com/thomson-suing-zotero/ …http://www.zotero.org/documentation/word_processor_integration
19:04:44 JohnS -> Y’all have toexcuse Dave tonight, folks. He’s a bit disadvantaged on thehardware/software side.
19:05:55 JenM -> http://www.tamaleaver.net/2008/10/04/thomson-reutersendnote-sue-george-mason-uni-over-zotero/
19:06:32 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/tools
19:07:07 PeggyG -> Now that isawesome Jeff! Great resource!!
19:07:24 PeggyG -> and we even getto rate them 🙂
19:07:25 mrsdurff -> yeah thatwould be useful
19:07:46 Cathy E -> Jeff- the pageis great
19:07:56 Gary -> Great idea!
19:08:02 mharm -> hmmm- lost audiofrom the mebeam
19:08:09 PeggyG -> I’ll bet thatlist is going to grow by leaps and bounds
19:08:21 Lisa Parisi -> how do wefind that on ETT?
19:08:33 mrsdurff -> I am
19:08:36 JohnS -> PrinterShare:http://www.printeranywhere.com
19:08:40 PeggyG -> can we sort thelist or is it just alphabetical order?
19:08:42 JL -> For now, link onForums/Tools up top
19:08:54 Lisa Parisi -> Ah..thanksJeff
19:09:18 mrsdurff -> idea – groupby tools?
19:09:21 JL -> If people areinterested, can add a more obvious link
19:09:31 Cathy E -> Ha – I wasusing PrintShare last week and all of a sudden people from India wereprinting to my printer
19:09:32 PeggyG -> you mean youcan print to your work computer from home? Wow!
19:09:35 mrsdurff -> yeah likepeggy said
19:10:08 PeggyG -> @Cathy E-nowthat’s a scary thought! how do you prevent it?
19:10:09 dave -> http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english.html
19:10:23 PeggyG -> Yeah Dave!
19:10:24 Cathy E -> @ Peggy – Iuninstalled it
19:10:25 Cathy E -> :0
19:10:51 PeggyG -> delete! 🙂
19:11:08 mrsdurff -> finallysomeone tells the truth! kudos to dave
19:11:21 Gary -> iBook G4 – oursstill works great – new harddrive
19:11:22 JohnS -> Did the shelffall down?
19:11:49 JenM -> Ebook ReaderUpdates (Kindle and Sony) …http://mashable.com/2008/10/04/amazon-kindle-2/ … and …http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081003-sony-goes-after-kindle-with-new-touchscreen-ebook-reader.html
19:12:25 PeggyG -> what’s themaximum memory capacity for MacBookPro? Need more & thinnk I’mmaxed out
19:12:45 mrsdurff -> wow peggy – iwant to try that printshare!
19:13:02 mrsdurff -> my 8thgraders would love that!
19:13:05 mharm -> Thanks forsharing the printshare site with us!
19:13:21 JL -> http://aceonlineschools.com/frippery-froth-a-user-critique-of-online-dictionaries/
19:13:33 mrsdurff -> mharm theirentire delicious links list is awesome
19:13:41 mrsdurff -> hi nancy
19:14:05 nancykeane -> Hidurff.
19:14:36 JL -> http://www.w3.org/Amaya/Overview.html
19:15:27 mrsdurff -> i let youpeople do it john
19:15:37 mrsdurff -> i just usethe stuff
19:16:08 mharm -> Editors are notusing a lot in our western Wi area- teachers are usingww.sites.google.com and are bypassing the html code
19:16:17 Alvin Trusty -> TheMicrosoft Live software is nice for publishing online
19:16:46 JohnS -> Splicd:http://www.splicd.com/
19:16:47 Gary -> @mharm – but htmlis so much fun
19:16:55 mrsdurff -> for you
19:17:22 JohnS -> Example fromRandy Pauch’s Last Lecture: http://splicd.com/ji5_MqicxSo/151/174
19:17:38 mharm -> I agree- i tooenjoy html- my teachers don’t have the time- or are nnot willing tolearn
19:17:47 mrsdurff -> welcome back
19:17:53 Cathy E -> @JS whatformat does it save it in?
19:18:07 JohnS -> It just pointsack to the flash vid
19:18:07 PeggyG -> rats! gotbooted out 🙁
19:18:14 JohnS -> back
19:18:15 mrsdurff -> because wehave people like you mharm
19:18:21 dave -> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/sep/29/cloud.computing.richard.stallman
19:18:26 Gary -> It is old Dave
19:18:46 mrsdurff -> hi angela
19:19:17 angelamaiers -> Hi there!How are you all doing tonight?
19:19:29 mrsdurff -> weekend istoo short
19:19:43 mharm -> Hi Angela!
19:19:54 angelamaiers -> Yes itis! Still working on getting sound!
19:20:14 mrsdurff -> click thearrow to your right
19:20:25 angelamaiers -> @Durff-put another 8th grade lesson up today-love to see what your kids think!
19:20:28 PeggyG -> is there a wayto back up delicious and diigo bookmarks?
19:20:29 mrsdurff -> the big arrowon the ustream thumbnail
19:20:39 angelamaiers -> Yeah-Ihave sound!!!
19:20:54 angelamaiers -> What istonights topic?
19:21:01 nancykeane -> Just thethought of losing my delicious bookmarks makes my stomach hurt!
19:21:02 mrsdurff -> i alreadyposted lessons angela
19:21:16 mrsdurff -> will have tobe another week
19:21:19 angelamaiers -> Nancy-me,too! Bad thought!
19:21:32 dave -> @gary yeah… iknow it’s old… i just don’t remember the mac hotkeys
19:21:46 PeggyG -> @nancykeane-metoo! never thought about it-just trusting–this show is scaring me!
19:21:53 mrsdurff -> edtechweeklyis a fast roundup of links
19:22:01 mrsdurff -> with a gameshow at the end
19:22:02 JenM -> VIDEO ScreenCapture Fox … http://www.advancity.net/eng/products/capturefox.html
19:22:07 mrsdurff -> $5
19:22:18 mrsdurff -> i wasexplaining to angela
19:22:25 JohnS -> It’s ten becausethey mentioned your name.
19:22:26 dave -> JenM tested [email protected]!??
19:22:29 mrsdurff -> notsuggesting anything dave
19:22:36 angelamaiers -> How doesit compare to snag it?
19:22:40 mrsdurff -> you aretouchy tonight
19:22:44 dave -> 🙂
19:22:58 mrsdurff -> it’s thatapple computer
19:23:17 nancykeane -> OK justexported my delicious bookmarks. Feeling better.
19:23:35 mharm -> Jing Rocks!
19:23:41 mrsdurff -> did i missthat nancy
19:23:49 mrsdurff -> export themto what?
19:24:00 JL -> http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
19:24:03 PeggyG -> Jeff is anamazing Jing user-those short tutorials are so helpful!
19:24:15 JenM -> @dave can benasty …
19:24:16 nancykeane -> justexported them to my harddrive. Now I don’t have to worry about losingthem.
19:24:30 angelamaiers -> GreatQuestion!
19:24:36 Gary -> @ Dave – tryKeyCue http://www.macility.com/products/keycue/
19:24:41 mrsdurff -> oh i see nancy
19:24:53 JL -> http://www.yuuguu.com/newsletter/2008/09/29/yuuguu-supports-linux-customers/?utm_source=newsletter_sep08&utm_medium=email&utm_term=linux&utm_campaign=yuuguu_email
19:24:59 mrsdurff -> what aboutcrossposting with Diigo?
19:25:02 JohnS -> Congress acts,sort of saves Internet radio:http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080930-congress-acts-sort-of-saves-internet-radio.html
19:25:21 mrsdurff -> see how theyare?
19:25:32 angelamaiers -> Do youhave the Twitter Question link?
19:25:50 JL -> Twitter link:http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dhn2vcv5_819cbw8pngh
19:25:58 angelamaiers -> Thanks JL!
19:26:03 mharm -> how aboutfavtape?
19:26:29 mrsdurff -> have we allseen Jango?
19:26:39 Sarah S -> Bummer . . thecapture fox addon is only for windows.
19:26:52 dave -> http://www.nccmembership.co.uk/pooled/articles/BF_WEBART/view.asp?Q=BF_WEBART_305924
19:27:12 mrsdurff -> go pc!
19:27:27 PeggyG -> @mrsdurff-don’tknow about Jango-tell us
19:28:03 angelamaiers -> Just dida presentation-asked 80 teachers about Web 2.0-only two could definewhat it was. Great link-thanks!
19:28:13 mrsdurff -> it’s herehttp://www.jango.com/users/16496175/edit?l=0
19:28:27 mrsdurff -> i love it!
19:28:55 Alvin Trusty -> Just dida workshop. Asked 80 teacher about Delicious. Onlytwo knew what it was.
19:28:56 JenM -> Simple CC FlickrSearch … http://johnjohnston.name/flickrCC/
19:29:11 mrsdurff -> it startsplaying on it’s own
19:29:44 Alvin Trusty -> that’s aFlickr term
19:29:48 mrsdurff -> pizza parlor
19:29:57 PeggyG -> Jango is cool!Thanks!
19:30:02 mrsdurff -> $5
19:30:03 Gary -> I found thatstrange also
19:30:32 mharm -> www.pics4learning.com
19:31:00 Alvin Trusty -> Here theinterestingness link – http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/
19:31:03 JL -> http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Pays+for+Searching+Til+April+2009+Firefox+Users+Not+Welcome/article13100.htm
19:31:16 mrsdurff -> hi maggir
19:31:20 mrsdurff -> maggie
19:32:02 JohnS -> Pixel Pipe:http://www.pixelpipe.com/
19:32:03 mharm -> http://ideas.wisconsin.edu (database collection copyright images)
19:32:32 JohnS -> SmushIT:http://smushit.com/
19:32:54 PeggyG -> glad youmentioned PixelPipe again-I bookmarked that and couldn’t remember whotold me about it.
19:32:56 Alvin Trusty -> here isanother CC image search site – http://www.behold.cc/
19:33:29 mharm -> You sound good
19:33:33 PeggyG -> not wonky for me
19:33:37 dave -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/32_nanometer
19:34:01 mrsdurff -> hi msomustek
19:34:23 msomustek -> eee, hi.first time over here. saw it it twitter!
19:34:30 msomustek -> in
19:34:42 Gary -> Thanks Alvin
19:34:48 mrsdurff -> green likeKermit?
19:34:58 JenM -> Study CurveSocial Networking Site: http://www.studycurve.com/
19:35:11 PeggyG -> I thought youmeant cleaning up your desktop (green) 🙂
19:35:18 dave -> hey @msomustek
19:35:24 Alvin Trusty -> Floatyour machine in the ocean, ultimate green machine -http://gizmodo.com/5047050/google-patents-floating-server-farm-powered-by-ocean-waves
19:35:30 mrsdurff -> SimpleGreen -great product
19:35:35 msomustek -> hey dave
19:35:48 msomustek -> what’s thebenes over Ning w/studycurve?
19:35:52 dave -> @msomustek areyou getting the audio?
19:35:57 msomustek -> yes
19:36:02 msomustek -> sounds good
19:36:13 JL -> http://www.spellingcity.com/
19:36:19 dave -> @msomustek thoseguys don’t really know what they’re taking about
19:36:39 angelamaiers -> I justchecked this out-spelling city is great!
19:36:51 JL -> http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSTRE4917QU20081002?feedType=RSS&feedName=internetNews&rpc=22&sp=true
19:37:22 JL -> http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
19:37:30 msomustek -> @dave whatguys in particular; most guys don’t know what they’re talking about :p
19:38:10 JenM -> Skype …http://share.skype.com/sites/en/2008/10/skype_president_addresses_chin.html
19:38:23 mrsdurff -> jutecht
19:39:54 JohnS -> MAA Minute Math:http://maaminutemath.blogspot.com/
19:39:54 mrsdurff -> a clip fromJLs past
19:39:54 PeggyG -> hahaha!
19:39:54 dave -> @msomustek johnis particularly problematic… he’s talking now
19:40:13 mrsdurff -> welcome backcathy
19:40:33 angelamaiers -> Hi Cathy!
19:40:36 dave -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3353
19:40:41 msomustek -> might bebetter than Sudoku
19:41:11 Cathy E -> I ammulti-tasking and keep leaving chat – sorry
19:41:30 PeggyG -> some of us (me)are still trying to get caught up from week 1 of Connectivism
19:41:34 mrsdurff -> working tohard cathy
19:42:09 JenM -> George SeimensRecording from Madison Distance Learning Conf …http://mediasite.ics.uwex.edu/pyle4/Viewer/Viewers/Viewer320TL.aspx?mode=Default&peid=ee8c7a70-6cbc-4c05-8d4d-e493acb6d3e2&pid=8f6d878a-5b6f-45d4-b8f5-cd0d77a6d7f4&playerType=Port25#
19:42:19 Gary -> Some of usavoided it from the start
19:42:23 mharm -> Go WI!
19:42:27 PeggyG -> love followingthe conversations and glad to have YOU ask the hard questions 🙂
19:42:28 mrsdurff -> figures
19:43:20 JL -> http://www.thelocal.se/14688.html http://torrentfreak.com/slacker-uprising-bittorrent-takedown-sent-to-dns-provider-081002/
19:43:29 mharm -> WI has two unitsin WI- we are using for our WEMTA conference march 22-24, 2009
19:43:38 PeggyG -> Mediasite issometimes problematic on Macs–for some reason
19:43:44 JenM -> @mharm … I grewup in Lodi and went to Madison for by BBA …
19:43:50 JenM -> *my
19:44:20 Gary -> Michael Moore’smovie is also available through iTunes
19:44:22 PeggyG -> loveSlackerUprising-free rental from iTunes 🙂 29 days rental
19:44:54 msomustek -> it does
19:45:01 mharm -> I use to live inWest Salem, WI- am the CESA #4 tech director there- but now live inBrownsville, MN.
19:45:08 mrsdurff -> the policyapplies to dave
19:45:17 JohnS -> Spectra:http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i//msnbc/Components/spectra/spectra.html
19:45:53 Alvin Trusty -> Spectraworks with Firefox.
19:46:05 PeggyG -> haveSlackerUprising on my iPod today 🙂 wonder if it has the same 24 hourlimit for viewing that it does on iTunes>
19:46:41 JohnS -> I’m using itwith firefox.
19:46:48 Gary -> @Peggy – samehere – did not use iTunes
19:46:51 dave -> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/police_iphone_left_in_hot_car_for
19:46:52 mrsdurff -> the look ofRSS to come – the future?
19:47:08 JenM -> PaperlessLearning Environments …http://digitaldialogues.blogs.com/learning_technologies/2008/09/the-paperless-l.html
19:47:16 mrsdurff -> cream of thecrop?
19:47:33 Alvin Trusty -> No,Michigan beat them at home.
19:47:41 msomustek -> yeah, lookscool @JenM
19:47:42 mharm -> Go WI- thanksfor mentioning the cheddar head state many times tonight!
19:47:45 JohnS -> http://www.bucknuts.com/news/articles/2008/10/5/buckeyes-sing-happy-song-after-win-at-wisconsin
19:48:02 dave -> @mharm that wouldbe for Jmad.
19:48:03 JohnS -> http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/8639134?MSNHPHCP>1=39002
19:48:06 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
19:48:34 PeggyG -> have you seenthe CarbonRally challenges for going green? really informative and funto commit to different challenges
19:49:22 JohnS -> 18th FirstAnnual Ig Nobel Awards: http://improbable.com/ig/2008/
19:49:56 mrsdurff -> why is therealways one last link fifteen times?
19:50:20 PeggyG -> too funnymrsdurff!
19:50:31 mrsdurff -> no cream ofthe crop?
19:50:37 mrsdurff -> boo!
19:50:41 angelamaiers -> Tonightsshow was GREAT!
19:50:53 mharm -> Thanks for agreat show tonight!
19:51:05 msomustek -> hahaha
19:51:07 mrsdurff -> oh no!
19:51:09 PeggyG -> must have acelebration coming up for show 100 🙂
19:51:15 angelamaiers -> Just onemore please…
19:51:19 mrsdurff -> it was fun!
19:51:21 PeggyG -> great show!!thanks!
19:51:31 mrsdurff -> ignore dave
19:51:32 msomustek -> where?
19:51:48 mrsdurff -> herehttps://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
19:51:55 PeggyG -> add somethingto Jeff’s list of tools? no problem 🙂
19:51:56 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/tools
19:52:08 mrsdurff -> so dave ishappy
19:52:55 angelamaiers -> Is therea link to cream of the crop tools
19:53:09 mrsdurff -> evidently not
19:53:16 mrsdurff -> tthey misledus
19:53:24 mrsdurff -> probably onpurpose
19:53:25 angelamaiers -> They needto make one!
19:53:31 mrsdurff -> i agree
19:53:45 PeggyG -> haha–ballotstuffing–do you care?
19:53:50 mrsdurff -> they had thatround on last week’s show
19:54:05 dave -> @PeggyG yes. yeshe does care.
19:54:08 mrsdurff -> ballotstuffing? not fair!
19:54:17 mrsdurff -> me
19:54:22 Alvin Trusty -> only forthis chat
19:54:23 PeggyG -> I’m on ETTevery day!
19:54:24 DaveC -> besides today?
19:54:27 msomustek -> stuffing,tools, cream . . . 😕
19:54:28 sheila -> rarely
19:54:54 PeggyG -> sometimes I login and sometimes I don’t-was on this morning
19:55:12 angelamaiers -> How iscapture fox different than Snag it
19:55:46 Alvin Trusty -> Is therestill a free version of Snag It? My old link doesn’t work anymore.
19:56:31 angelamaiers -> N0-Ithink it is about 40 bucks-I love it-well worth it. Is Capture Fox free
19:57:01 JL -> https://edtechtalk.net/node/3359
19:57:12 Alvin Trusty -> how do Irate something in /TOOLS
19:57:24 PeggyG -> curious if youthink the weekly newsletter is contributing to the future of ETT?
19:57:42 JenM -> @angela …capture fox is free and it catpures video, but it appears to be Windowsonly …
19:57:54 angelamaiers -> thanksJen!
19:57:57 mrsdurff -> Peggy willvolunteer
19:58:01 DaveC -> you need avolunteer to do that too.
19:58:19 Alvin Trusty -> mycomment went into moderation. how long until it makes thelist?
19:58:31 mrsdurff -> I volunteerto be a member at large
19:58:43 PeggyG -> I’m stillwaiting for some "role descriptions" before I volunteer for anythingmore
19:58:57 msomustek -> Maybe moredetail on… yeah, what @PeggyG said.
19:59:05 dave -> @Alvin irfan?
19:59:31 PeggyG -> I’m smiling atsome of these titles–pretty scary!
19:59:51 angelamaiers -> Have agreat night friends-gotta get kids ready for school Monday! Have aGREAT week!
19:59:58 mrsdurff -> how would onemoderate comments?
20:00:01 PeggyG -> Bye Angela
20:00:15 mrsdurff -> come againangela
20:00:17 JohnS -> Someone alreadyapproved them.
20:00:29 Alvin Trusty -> @dave yes
20:00:36 dave -> moderated it
20:00:39 JohnS -> BTW, if you login, you don’t get moderated.
20:00:51 Alvin Trusty -> @dave howdo I add a rating?
20:01:04 mrsdurff -> yeah so coulda dummy like me moderate comments?
20:01:12 mrsdurff -> john?
20:01:18 PeggyG -> interestingdistinction with Worldbridges and ETT-always thought it was the otherway around
20:01:18 Cathy E -> @ Alvin – areyou logged in on the ETT page?
20:01:30 DaveC -> So a communityLiaison type person…
20:01:39 Alvin Trusty -> @CE yes,had to be logged in to make a comment.
20:01:52 Cathy E -> Click thestars to vote
20:02:12 Alvin Trusty -> Triedclicking the stars. Didn’t do anything… that I could tell.
20:02:41 PeggyG -> the ETTcommunity is very strong and growing–more and more people are cominginto to be part of the conversations on all of the shows and cite it asone of their primary resources. I do!
20:02:52 mrsdurff -> hey drezac
20:02:54 DaveC -> @Alvin, firstyou need to click on the tool name to open the page on it. Then you’ll see the voting stars
20:02:56 Cathy E -> @ AT click thetitle of the software first
20:02:59 Cathy E -> then the stars
20:03:26 drezac -> I know I’mlate, but I thought I’d see if I could cathc up
20:03:40 Alvin Trusty -> @CE triedthe main page and the program page. I only see the averageand can’t click stars.
20:03:42 Gary -> Agree with Dave -am involved in other communities and often finances dominate what theleaders do (unfortunately).
20:03:46 DaveC -> I’ve been on anumber of committees and volunteer efforts, and the biggest problem ispeople keeping up with their commitment.
20:04:27 msomustek -> @DaveCabsolutely agree.
20:05:05 PeggyG -> I feel ifpeople feel their contributions are being valued (used) they willmaintain their commitment
20:06:18 Gary -> Agree with Jenalso – this is a place I come to that does not involve too muchcommitment on my part and I get away from other commitments
20:06:53 PeggyG -> There willalways be lurkers but some will get very involved and contribute a lot.It has worked great for 4 of us to share the newsletter work so eachdoes one week a month. Agree with your point
20:07:50 drezac -> People arestarting to have SOP many communities.
20:08:15 drezac -> We have tostart bringing them together or making a choice about where are timegoes
20:08:24 dave -> @drezac we dohave some somewhere… maybe https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:09:25 DaveC -> What aboutpeople who have an idea for an episode, but not for a series?
20:10:10 DaveC -> Still earlyadopters….
20:10:15 PeggyG -> if you use acommon tag for ETT shows we can save the search on Tweetdeck and nevermiss a show. I use ETT and podcast and webcast but I don’t get all ofthem that way. I follow ETT on Twitter too.
20:10:23 sheila -> Yes DaveC
20:10:25 JohnS -> yeah, DaveC.We’ve had that conversation, too. We used to do that in webcastathons.
20:10:35 Cathy E -> And you havethose of us who can’t get our show posted
20:10:55 mrsdurff -> so dideveryone volunteer for something?
20:11:09 Gary -> This show goesmuch further than those that participate each week. Most ofus probably share many of the links.
20:11:56 PeggyG -> @Gary-excellentpoint–the show definitely goes mjuch further than those whoparticipate live and online.
20:12:14 DaveC -> Thesite/community is also mentioned on other shows. Plus, didn’tDave just make top 100 list of people to follow on twitter?
20:12:38 mrsdurff -> i don’t thinkso
20:13:39 PeggyG -> didn’t you sayonce that there are many more people subscribed to the showhostnewsletter than actual showhosts?
20:13:54 mrsdurff -> true
20:14:16 mrsdurff -> communitieswaver, sway, change
20:14:56 PeggyG -> what do youmean pacify the community?
20:15:19 dave -> did i say pacify?
20:15:29 PeggyG -> true-not a showhost and not in Skype chat for showhosts
20:15:47 PeggyG -> yes-I probablyspelled it wrong 🙁
20:15:50 mrsdurff -> but we tellyou peggy
20:16:16 PeggyG -> I don’t feelleft out at all-I don’t need to be pacified 🙂 This is my favoritecommunity!
20:16:26 DaveC -> Download thelogs from China…
20:16:42 mrsdurff -> are thereshowhosts who are not in the skype chat?
20:17:00 Gary -> and probablythose of us that don’t participate at that level probably have reasonsfor that.
20:17:03 PeggyG -> Greatsuggestion Jen
20:17:23 mrsdurff -> watch outgary – dave in on a run
20:17:31 dave -> 🙂
20:17:33 DaveC -> @Gary, right! Noone should take lack of participation for lack of appreciation or lackof caring. Sometimes it is just time.
20:18:08 dave -> well… that’strue for jeff
20:18:10 mrsdurff -> it wasn’tthat easy for us
20:18:20 mrsdurff -> were wespecial?
20:18:33 mrsdurff -> what wouldhappen? john would do it
20:18:35 sheila -> So a smaller"executive board?"
20:18:39 dave -> john does it now
20:18:50 mrsdurff -> exactly
20:19:26 mrsdurff -> please do JL
20:19:31 Gary -> @DaveC – thanks -I am deeply involved in 2 other groups – EdTechWeekly is part of myescape (as strange as that may sound)
20:19:48 PeggyG -> I think it’sthe names of all of those "commitees" that are scary 🙂
20:20:41 PeggyG -> this is a lotlike "parent involvement"-everyone can’t be involved in the same waysbut it doesn’t mean they don’t care.
20:20:43 mrsdurff -> volunteerPeggy
20:21:10 PeggyG -> I did volunteerto help with the newsletter
20:21:15 drezac -> This communityhas helped me in my early days of my career very much.
20:21:24 sheila -> Some people arevisionaries and others are doers; each can play a role.
20:21:57 mrsdurff -> and thatmight happen
20:22:01 mrsdurff -> 🙂
20:23:18 DaveC -> Is there apriority of placement of people? Looking at the list, there are a lotof position and only so many people able to step up right now.
20:23:28 PeggyG -> yes Sheial-andsome are both visionaries and doers 🙂
20:23:35 Gary -> In groups I aminvolved in money is very important and takes a great deal oftime. As a result those that are involved at that levelvolunteer or are elected for fixed periods of time.
20:23:59 JohnS -> It’s an ideal,with a lot of sustainability built in. Realistically, we would havepeople in more than one position.
20:24:05 JohnS -> Ghost runner onfirst.
20:24:08 PeggyG -> I don’t thinkthe "community" knows there is a need
20:24:10 mrsdurff -> what? I am
20:24:17 mrsdurff -> just multitasking
20:24:24 sheila -> @Peggy – Iagree.
20:24:37 mrsdurff -> i will get toit then – volunteering for sth
20:24:42 drezac -> This needs totip, a la the Tipping Point
20:25:04 PeggyG -> this show talksabout the organizational planning but it doesn’t get mentioned on othershows
20:25:10 DaveC -> Titles scare me,they don’t always describe the position.
20:25:22 mrsdurff -> a paypalbutton like we did for Lee
20:25:32 Gary -> Many groups haveexecutive directors who get paid to do the day to day work.
20:25:48 drezac -> 5013c?
20:26:04 dave -> @drezac 75% donethe application process
20:26:07 Gary -> The executive maygive guidance but does not do most of the things
20:26:10 JohnS -> @drezacEducation Bridges is moving in that direction.
20:26:16 drezac -> Gotcha!
20:26:30 sheila -> We had some ofthe same issues with NHSTE – started looking in to Going from Good toGreat for non-profits. There are issues with volunteers.
20:26:31 JohnS -> 501c3 isUS-specific, though.
20:27:09 drezac -> so you can’tget money from overseas…
20:27:27 JohnS -> we can, it justgets more complicated.
20:27:33 Cathy E -> So we just getrid of every bus
20:27:45 DaveC -> I can help withthat part… (hosting)
20:27:50 mrsdurff -> 2009?
20:28:38 PeggyG -> some peoplemight be willing to make donations towards the server when they don’thave time to commit
20:28:56 mrsdurff -> i think so too
20:28:57 Gary -> Many of us wouldprobably pay for some sort of supporting membership
20:29:06 drezac -> Can anyone justcreate their own show here?
20:29:07 mrsdurff -> dave nixesall my ideas
20:29:17 mrsdurff -> you suggestpeggy
20:29:21 JohnS -> @Gary — thatalso gets odd in an International arena.
20:29:23 PeggyG -> Yes-andsometimes when people pay something they contribute more
20:29:35 mrsdurff -> drezac – yes& no
20:30:05 JohnS -> @drezac newshows addressed here: https://edtechtalk.net/node/1492
20:30:15 mrsdurff -> most drezacgo thru webcastacademy
20:30:26 mrsdurff -> ah john foundit
20:31:09 mrsdurff -> benevolent?who said dave is kind?
20:31:26 PeggyG -> regardless ofsharing the "work" load I think there still needs to be leaders whocarry forward the vision
20:31:30 dave -> benevolence isn’talways about kindness 😐
20:31:37 JohnS -> (John had apretty good idea where it was)
20:31:59 drezac -> Got that. Ijust wonder if it were more open for creating content, that you mighthave a more give and take community
20:32:59 mrsdurff -> good pt therejohn
20:33:19 mrsdurff -> i think weshould
20:33:30 mrsdurff -> despite thenaysayers
20:33:30 PeggyG -> is there a"blurp" that we could post in the newsletter very week about this kindof involvement? lots of peopple get that newsletter
20:33:36 DaveC -> Does anyone knowwhere the majority of people are located who participate?
20:33:49 DaveC -> (or follow shows)
20:33:51 mrsdurff -> north america
20:34:09 dave -> @DaveC there’ssome stuff around somewhere
20:34:19 DaveC -> Oz/Nz educatorsgroup has "feasts" from time to time to bring the community closer andadd faces to voices.
20:34:43 mrsdurff -> you have oneDaveC then i will attend
20:34:54 mrsdurff -> if you sendthe cab
20:35:05 drezac -> Thanks so much.I will continue to check out, and be a part of the community, as longas it’s around.
20:35:06 PeggyG -> volunteers areessential–don’t need/expect to be paid
20:35:06 DaveC -> I’ll pick you upon the way 🙂
20:35:44 Gary -> Jeff – notice howmany people stayed on to talk about this – it probably is important.
20:35:56 mrsdurff -> waot – idon’t want paid
20:36:18 mrsdurff -> it is Gary
20:37:10 DaveC -> Well we’re doingNECAP testing tomorrow, so I guess I’ll write answers to some questionson the volunteer form.
20:37:21 Cathy E -> I love youJeff and Dave
20:37:25 Gary -> Thanks again!
20:37:27 PeggyG -> can you give ussome kind of plea/description we can put in the newsletter every weekto inform people about ways they can contribute?
20:37:45 DaveC -> hahah
20:37:49 sheila -> I want to seethat!
20:37:55 sheila -> "SEE"
20:37:57 mrsdurff -> i have workto do yet – miles to go before i sleep – nite!
20:38:01 PeggyG -> I didn’t knowthis conversation was about structure 🙂
20:38:07 Cathy E -> nite
20:38:11 DaveC -> nite all.
20:38:22 JL -> night all – thanks