May 2, 2010
19:00:08 dave -> http://edfutures.com/forumpost/what-could-peer-evaluation-form-and-portfolio-look-course
19:00:21 PeggyG -> hi all!
19:00:45 PeggyG -> audio is a bit echoey for me tonight–not sure why??
19:02:24 SusanEttenheim -> hi all
19:02:26 PeggyG -> interesting observation that someone can’t take the course because there’s no accreditation–is that just personal priority for earning a degree?
19:02:32 SusanEttenheim -> is the stream on a or b?
19:02:35 PeggyG -> !
19:02:38 PeggyG -> A
19:02:45 SusanEttenheim -> thanks peggy
19:02:45 alicemercer -> It doesn’t count for credential
19:02:52 alicemercer -> in States
19:03:28 PeggyG -> I understood that–just wondering why the person said couldn’t take the course. Guess no time for learning that isn’t accredited???
19:04:22 PeggyG -> Hi Kim 🙂
19:04:25 SusanEttenheim -> oops not good in car… will catch later as podcast..
19:04:28 kcaise -> hi everyone!
19:04:32 alicemercer -> I would do it on my own, but I wouldn’t be crazy about paying for something I’m not getting credit for but….
19:05:08 PeggyG -> good point–paying and not getting credit for it–guess that’s sort of like going to a conference like ISTE 🙂
19:05:10 alicemercer -> If it’s nominal, there is a way to get PD type stuff count for salary credit, so that could be worth like $50 to me, but not $250
19:05:25 alicemercer -> But I will say…
19:05:43 alicemercer -> I was allowed to appeal and extension of my credential for teaching in lab
19:06:05 alicemercer -> because I could document 90 hours of PD in the year based on ISTE, CUE, It’s Elementary, etc.
19:06:16 alicemercer -> NOT IN CALIFORNI!
19:06:23 alicemercer -> No more requirements for renewal
19:06:41 alicemercer -> And there IS a way to improve salary
19:07:01 alicemercer -> BUT, they will not credit stuff without either seat time, or university credit…
19:07:49 alicemercer -> It would be worth money, just not as much as an accredited course because it doesn’t translate into as many hours on salary scale
19:07:51 PeggyG -> Hi Jackie
19:08:06 alicemercer -> So how much ya chargin?
19:08:10 alicemercer -> Hi all!
19:08:37 jackiegerstein -> http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2010/04/the-coming-meltdown-in-higher-education-as-seen-by-a-marketer.html
19:08:55 jackiegerstein -> Hi Peggy – getting the link to Seth’s blog about the meltdown of higher ed
19:09:00 alicemercer -> Okay, I suggest a new drinking game. A shot for each time Dave says "meta", lol
19:09:21 PeggyG -> the elluminate sessions are lively and really challenge your thinking!!
19:09:49 JenM -> ipad 3g .. I saw one … http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmaddrell/4569103244/ … and … http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmaddrell/4569102220/
19:10:05 jackiegerstein -> College Inc. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/collegeinc/?utm_campaign=collegeinc&utm_medium=googleads&utm_source=news
19:10:34 jackiegerstein -> Been thinking a lot this week about the future and purpose of higher education – a lot of links
19:10:36 dave -> it’s only a bit bigger
19:11:03 PeggyG -> I got to watch Kevin Honeycutt in action with his iPad this weekend–incredible!! he can make amazing music on his iPad!!!
19:11:03 jackiegerstein -> Waiting to buy mine on ebay
19:12:39 alicemercer -> A more expensive, slicker netbook that won’t run flash
19:12:45 alicemercer -> Better reader I would think
19:12:47 JohnS -> Why Schools are Turning to Google Apps: http://mashable.com/2010/04/28/schools-google-apps/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mashable+%28Mashable%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
19:12:57 alicemercer -> Tried to use android phone for reader. Too small
19:12:58 jackiegerstein -> How was the conference Peggy?
19:13:15 PeggyG -> Conference was awesome!!!! 🙂
19:13:19 alicemercer -> BUT, it’s too big not as portable as a mobile
19:13:22 jackiegerstein -> 🙂
19:14:29 alicemercer -> Forms has been great for me…
19:15:02 alicemercer -> Yeah, the drive thing is a PITA, etc.
19:15:36 alicemercer -> Hey, doesn’t Dave have issues with Google and privacy issues?
19:15:47 kcaise -> i thought Dave had lots of issues
19:15:54 alicemercer -> Well, yes…
19:15:59 kcaise -> 🙂
19:16:38 alicemercer -> Like trash talking about others…
19:17:03 alicemercer -> It’s like email
19:17:13 alicemercer -> you never can tell where it will be forwarded
19:17:19 alicemercer -> Yes?
19:17:39 silentshimmer -> hey everyone
19:17:43 alicemercer -> Hi!
19:17:48 kcaise -> hi
19:18:00 silentshimmer -> how is everyone?
19:18:47 PeggyG -> that’s a whole lot of CONTROL for social media!!
19:18:56 alicemercer -> Is it any different than email?
19:19:07 dave -> @alice yes.
19:19:11 dave -> very different
19:19:17 silentshimmer -> what’s different?
19:19:23 dave -> googleapps
19:19:26 dave -> is different
19:19:35 dave -> @silentshimmer are you hearing hte audio?
19:19:47 JohnS -> Data Liberation Front: http://www.dataliberation.org/home
19:20:28 jackiegerstein -> That is cool – getting serenaded
19:20:45 alicemercer -> @dave is that because you can share "un-deliberatly"?
19:20:59 silentshimmer -> no I don’t know how to use this much
19:21:04 dave -> @alice yeah… i think that’s part of it
19:21:07 silentshimmer -> how do you get the audio?
19:21:17 PeggyG -> I hadn’t heard about that before but am very glad to know about it!
19:21:25 jackiegerstein -> You need to click onto the EdTEchTalk A
19:21:35 dave -> http://harvardmagazine.com/2010/05/networked
19:21:46 jackiegerstein -> If you have itunes, the first icon, the mic works
19:22:11 jackiegerstein -> Trying 😉
19:22:32 silentshimmer -> where is EdTechtalk?
19:22:35 PeggyG -> read the chat John!! 🙂 the delay in audio and text is the culprit
19:23:03 JenM -> ipad competitors shrinking (before they began) while others chugging away … http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/microsoft-cancels-courier-tablet/ … and … http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-tablet-project/ … http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-looking-glass-tablet-leaks-tegra-2-coming-your-way-in-nove … and … http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/22/velocity-micros-cruz-tablet-has-android-2-1-with-full-flash-sup
19:23:11 PeggyG -> @silentshimmer go here for audio https://edtechtalk.net:8000/
19:23:16 dave -> https://edtechtalk.net:8000/listen.pls
19:23:33 jackiegerstein -> Nice article – I want to tweet about it – what is the hashtag for Edtechtalk
19:23:47 dave -> #edtechtalk ?
19:23:51 dave -> #ETT
19:23:52 jackiegerstein -> LOL dave
19:23:59 alicemercer -> I like the look of those new Dell mobiles
19:25:02 alicemercer -> How about the ASUS Keyboard computer?
19:25:07 JenM -> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-28/hewlett-packard-will-acquire-palm-for-1-2-billion-update3-.html
19:25:15 SteveEdiger -> aha, there we are…brain FAIL
19:25:34 alicemercer -> http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/01/asus-eeekeyboard-gets-really-really-official/
19:26:07 JohnS -> Dispose a Mail: http://www.disposeamail.com/ and Spam Gourmet: http://spamgourmet.com/
19:28:30 dave -> http://radar.oreilly.com/2010/04/ed-20-the-importance-of-owners.html
19:28:59 PeggyG -> AZ is listening 🙂
19:29:45 alicemercer -> That is not really learning though
19:30:54 alicemercer -> NO, not here, in response to it’s easier to sit in a class and passive listen.
19:31:01 alicemercer -> Sorry, comment out of sync with audio.
19:31:11 JenM -> Sony floppy disks going bye-bye … http://www.examiner.com/x-16352-Japan-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m4d24-Sony-to-discontinue-35-inch-floppy-disk-in-Japan
19:31:11 alicemercer -> This is learning, cause we just had that exchange
19:31:13 Gary -> Named after Corporal Radar O’Reilly? Taking control?
19:32:13 PeggyG -> can’t believe they’re finally getting rid of the floppy disks!! haven’t had them for YEARS on Macs 🙂
19:32:37 alicemercer -> Transfer!
19:32:59 PeggyG -> most of my content on old floppy disks can’t be read because they were created on old apps
19:33:17 alicemercer -> Dave, I learn a lot from you here!
19:33:43 SteveEdiger -> easier to boot from fdd than usb?
19:33:51 JohnS -> Amazon sends Kindles to Africa: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/32690/amazon-sends-kindles-to-africa
19:34:11 alicemercer -> last one did, but that would be 6 years ago now.
19:34:20 alicemercer -> The desktops in my lab have them
19:34:27 alicemercer -> and they are like 6-7 years old
19:35:23 alicemercer -> Oh I can think of WORSE uses, lol
19:35:30 Gary -> Technology & throwing out books???
19:35:52 JohnS -> E-book prices to rise as Amazon, Sony adopt agency model: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/04/e-book-prices-to-rise-as-amazon-sony-adopt-agency-model.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss
19:36:17 Gary -> Politicians making decisions?
19:36:22 alicemercer -> Well, they could have sent room freshener? That would be a real waste, lol
19:36:49 alicemercer -> @Gary, do not get me started on politicians!
19:37:00 JohnS -> Can The iPad Or The Kindle Save Book Publishers?: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=126196977
19:37:27 Gary -> @alice – Sorry – I have been reading your blog – should have known.
19:37:52 alicemercer -> @Gary, yeah, I rant, I rant…
19:38:03 Gary -> Good rants though.
19:38:15 alicemercer -> Someone has to care…
19:38:56 dave -> http://www.joannejacobs.com/2010/04/powerpoint-makes-us-stupid/
19:39:31 alicemercer -> The lowest decile schools in California in terms of poverty have to provide seperate texts to each student
19:39:39 dave -> http://www.slideshare.net/coarsesalt/futures-for-the-arts-humanities-and-social-sciences
19:39:40 alicemercer -> in paper or otherwise
19:40:14 jackiegerstein -> I really like slideshare!
19:40:24 PeggyG -> the true benefit of slideshare is combining audio with slides
19:40:38 JenM -> Like my new all-in-one printer / scanner etc … http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=2613&modelid=20009
19:41:07 jackiegerstein -> Then you wouldn’t need a show any longer
19:42:03 alicemercer -> Win 7 had better drivers with HP Printer (although the computers were Lenovos)
19:42:29 JohnS -> NSW gets world’s largest Wi-Fi network : http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/031610-nsw-gets-worlds-largest-wi-fi.html?hpg1=bn
19:42:49 PeggyG -> yes paperport!! still have an old one 🙂
19:42:59 alicemercer -> DOn’t mix it up with the shredder!
19:44:17 Gary -> $2.2 Billion (assume Australian)
19:44:30 alicemercer -> Gotta go folks, dh is back from camping, time for hubby. Night!
19:45:11 JohnS -> Mobile Milestone: Data Surpasses Voice Traffic: http://gigaom.com/2010/03/24/mobile-milestone-data-surpasses-voice-traffic/
19:46:29 JohnS -> Spark 112: Cell Phones in the Classroom: http://www.cbc.ca/spark/2010/04/spark-112-may-2-4-2010/
19:47:19 Gary -> John must love Canada
19:47:42 JenM -> @gary .. not as much as I do 🙂
19:48:05 Gary -> @JenM – fair enough.
19:48:17 JenM -> Gardening resources for teachers … http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/gardening
19:48:28 PeggyG -> Don’t forget about Women of Web show tonight–8:30pm Eastern-conversation with Susan Manning/Kevin Johnson re their book "Online Education for Dummies" 🙂 Love to have you join us!
19:50:29 PeggyG -> thanks!! please join us 🙂 should be a fun conversation!
19:50:41 SteveEdiger -> Thanks for those links Jen, forwarded them to my Env. Systems teacher who’s building our greenhouse
19:50:41 Gary -> Thanks again.
19:50:58 PeggyG -> good night all! see you next week
19:51:05 jackiegerstein -> thanks Happy Cincho de Mayo
19:51:20 DaveC -> But I’m here 🙂