EdTechWeekly #156
March 7, 2010
18:55:05 JenM -> hi, cathy e
18:55:55 Cathy E -> Hey Jen – long time no see
19:00:44 Gary -> Is UStream on?
19:00:53 dave -> ustream is not on gary
19:00:55 JenM -> no stream tonight
19:01:02 JohnS -> Just on ETT A.
19:01:06 Gary -> Thanks – thought it just might be me.
19:01:53 Gary -> Yes I am but delayed so I heard it. 🙂
19:02:55 cyndidannerkuhn -> Hello from Kansas State
19:03:26 JohnS -> National Writing Project: http://www.nwp.org/
19:04:07 JohnS -> National Writing Project Program Performance Report: http://www2.ed.gov/about/reports/annual/2001report/edlite-267.html
19:04:18 JohnS -> NWP Works!: http://nwpworks.ning.com/
19:05:11 Bud Hunt -> Turns out that small investments in good people can result in good and thoughtful work.
19:06:00 JohnS -> http://twitter.com/nwpfundingconvo/favorites
19:06:16 PeggyG -> all of the teachers I have met from the NWP on Teachers Teaching Teachers have been incredible! Doing awesome things with kids!
19:06:23 JohnS -> President’s Education Budget Signals Bold Changes for ESEA: http://www2.ed.gov/news/pressreleases/2010/02/02012010.html
19:10:02 PeggyG -> thanks for posting all of those great links JohnS!!
19:10:26 Gary -> Welcome everyone – a suddent increase in the chatroom.
19:10:43 robd -> those twitter posts help
19:11:00 PeggyG -> yes TTT has done a lot of shows featuring the great work of NWP teachers!!
19:12:51 Gary -> Does "competitive" mean "political"?
19:14:24 Bud Hunt -> Not necessarily, Gary. The intention is that it’s a merit based competition.
19:15:28 Gary -> Thanks Bud – I am similar to Dave in that I do not completely understand the American education system.
19:15:54 bcrosby -> Hmmm, can’t hear …
19:16:26 Gary -> @bcrosby – Use EdTech Talk A
19:16:33 Gary -> At the top right.
19:16:34 dave -> https://edtechtalk.net:8000/listen.pls
19:16:34 PeggyG -> even if you think you "understand" you don’t always 🙁
19:16:41 jeffmason -> forget sleep
19:17:27 bcrosby -> Thanks, got it!!!
19:17:55 PeggyG -> Race to the Top seems quite political from my vantage point–some states applied for extensions to see what made it through the first round…
19:18:41 cyndidannerkuhn -> Do you think they just overlooked it!!! Or theu just don;’t relaly undersatnd it value.
19:19:06 JohnS -> Open Letter on Behalf of the NWP: http://autodizactic.com/blog/?p=449
19:19:16 JenM -> … also happening … http://nwpworks.ning.com/page/house-dear-colleague-letter
19:19:23 JohnS -> Bud’s open letter: http://budtheteacher.com/blog/2010/03/07/an-open-letter-to-my-elected-congressfolk-please-support-the-nwp/
19:19:59 bcrosby -> Harry Reid is my Senator, (his grandson is in my wife’s class) … we’ll see what bug we can put in his ear too … not that we have any real connection there … but this would be worth trying.
19:20:11 JohnS -> What the F**K is Social Media: One Year Later: http://www.slideshare.net/mzkagan/what-the-fk-is-social-media-one-year-later
19:21:28 cyndidannerkuhn -> Good points!
19:21:42 MrChase -> @bcrosby great
19:21:54 JenM -> info on how to participate … http://nwpworks.ning.com/page/join-the-effort
19:23:07 bcrosby -> Same with RTTT issues … I’ve been trying to engage them @Edpressec there too.
19:28:05 dave -> i feel like i’m arguing against the rhizome… but that’s not quite what i mean
19:28:16 robd -> Agreed…people can’t understand social media until they do it for themselves and see the result
19:29:36 cyndidannerkuhn -> I will conact my congressman, all of them, than ks for alerting us to this issue.
19:29:52 PeggyG -> is the most important step to take sending the letters/signing the petition to Congress people?
19:30:01 PeggyG -> thanks Bud!!!
19:30:08 bcrosby -> Thanks Bud!
19:30:46 bcrosby -> Teaching a class right now for Writing Project here in Reno
19:30:57 PeggyG -> http://tedxnyed.com/
19:31:08 JohnS -> Thanks, Peggy
19:31:51 PeggyG -> Alex, Arvind and Vinnie focused on tedxnyed in their show this past week–sounded incredible!!
19:31:56 sroseman -> http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/blog/1340000334/post/650053065.html?nid=3714
19:32:39 bcrosby -> Do we know when the vids from TedXNYED will be up?
19:32:49 dawn -> 🙂
19:33:25 JohnS -> Not sure. It just says "soon"
19:33:28 PeggyG -> http://www.youtube.com/user/TEDxTalks#p/u this is the YouTube site where the TedX videos will be posted
19:33:43 bcrosby -> Thanks!
19:33:51 robd -> @peggyg – thanks
19:34:17 PeggyG -> I was at CUE during TedX and had to miss the live presentations so I can’t wait to see the recordings!
19:34:46 cyndidannerkuhn -> I actually work with Michael Wesch, he is amazing
19:34:59 monika -> hey @peggyg – i need help – can’t hear anything
19:35:55 Gary -> @monika – See EdTech Talk A at top left of page
19:36:04 Gary -> top right
19:36:20 JenM -> http://www.ted.com/pages/view/id/348
19:36:41 dawn -> @peggyG Thanks for the link
19:36:43 PeggyG -> if you click on EdTechTalk A it should open in a player–mine opens in iTunes
19:37:03 aforgrave (Andrew) -> TEDxOntarioEd is taking place April 9th in London, Ontario.
19:37:03 bcrosby -> The "Ignite" programs are similar and are happening all over the country. I did one here in Reno last summer.
19:37:22 PeggyG -> the Ignite programs are similar but not all focused on education
19:37:37 jackiegerstein -> http://www.ted.com/tedx
19:37:45 tomfullerton -> lessig’s is posted: http://blip.tv/file/3309463/
19:37:47 aforgrave (Andrew) -> http://www.mrhazzard.com/tedx/?page_id=11 TEDxOntarioEd
19:37:53 JenM -> @aforgrave … ok … great! another ED based tedx
19:38:08 cyndidannerkuhn -> so where is Chris’ presentation posted, I would love to share it with my pre-service teachers. link???
19:38:20 dendari -> Loved Dan Meyer
19:38:24 tomfullerton -> anyone have the link to chris’s presentation?
19:38:35 bcrosby -> @PeggyG yes, but you can do whatever you want and I think it delivers an audience that educators don’t always get to talk to.
19:38:52 jackiegerstein -> I found David Wiley’s & Jeff Jarvis stimulating
19:38:55 PeggyG -> I agree bcrosby! I’ve attended the Ignite Phoenix events
19:39:53 bcrosby -> I don’t think their presos are up yet … to be posted in future.
19:40:09 JohnS -> http://www.invisiblechildren.com/home.php
19:40:15 jackiegerstein -> http://weblogg-ed.com/2010/tedxnyed-amazingso-what/
19:40:37 jackiegerstein -> Yes – invisible children is great!
19:40:47 bcrosby -> Hi Dean!
19:40:57 monika -> we have one of their kids coming to our school mar 18
19:41:08 shareski -> Hi, going to make chicken wings and listen to the brilliance of Mr. Zac
19:41:53 bcrosby -> D’Arcy had a post about Ted a few weeks back … maybe you already talked about that though
19:41:58 JohnS -> Shareski in the chatroom? I’m star stuck.
19:42:54 shareski -> @JohnS you must be watching the Oscars
19:43:02 dave -> wonder if shareski left the bbq for long enough to listen to tedx yesterday
19:43:24 JohnS -> Aren’t the Neighbours having an Oscar party, Dean?
19:43:44 shareski -> @John, they just left..we entertained for a change
19:44:00 jackiegerstein -> http://teleogistic.net/2010/03/whats-wrong-with-tedxnyed/ Blog
19:44:38 robd -> it was probably the conversations in between the lectures that were more interesting
19:44:47 tomfullerton -> lectures to adults by inspirational speakers is different than K-12
19:44:53 aforgrave (Andrew) -> but there was considerable chatter between listeners enabled via tech — different dynamic from traditional ???
19:45:28 jackiegerstein -> I love a good lecture – but do good lectures facilitate change?
19:45:47 aforgrave (Andrew) -> anyone in the audience yesterday in NY? passive listeners, or a lot of folks simultaneously in the room and online
19:45:49 bcrosby -> Sir Ken Robinson, supposedly says he spent 100 hours prepping his Ted talk on Creativity that is so popular.
19:45:53 JohnS -> yes, but there are times when lectures to K12 can be just as inspirational. It just doesn’t happen every day with every teacher.
19:45:54 shareski -> lecture=presentation=communication it’s what we do everyday…just that we want to give lots a chance to "lecture"….and not for 45 minutes straight
19:46:23 robd -> a good lecturer is very rare
19:46:26 JohnS -> @bcrosby I’ve spent 100 hours on many presentations that went significantly less well.
19:46:27 jackiegerstein -> I think we need to differentiate between lecture and discourse
19:46:53 bcrosby -> The Ted talk "lectures" , at least the most popular ones, are also highly entertaining.
19:47:07 robd -> @jackiegerstein – what IS the difference between lecture and discourse?
19:47:23 Gary -> Maybe we need to sit around the campfire more often.
19:47:31 bcrosby -> @JohnS – really? 100 hours on an 18 minute preso?
19:47:32 tomfullerton -> we can lecture effectively in K-12 but it is over-used by less inspirational speakers
19:47:51 JohnS -> @brcrosby mine was 45 minutes, but yes.
19:47:51 robd -> @gary Aren’t we sitting around a campfire right now?
19:47:54 shareski -> Zac’s recent post about his student giving a lecture was pretty amazing
19:48:11 jackiegerstein -> @rob – one way vs. two way communication – awareness of presence of the other – voice by both sides
19:48:20 tomfullerton -> this pendulum swing in ed’l reform – lecture is "bad" lecture is "good" …..
19:48:26 tomfullerton -> can be both
19:48:30 Gary -> @robd – Good point! More often?
19:48:35 bcrosby -> Wow!
19:48:44 jackiegerstein -> We are engaged in discource
19:48:48 jackiegerstein -> discourse
19:48:52 tomfullerton -> how is this affected by the backchannel?
19:48:58 robd -> i wonder if you have to be a good listener before you can be a good lecturer?
19:49:09 tomfullerton -> do we enter into an asynchronous / synchronous discourse?
19:49:11 jackiegerstein -> Twitter during the talks yesterday made it more engaging for me
19:49:36 bcrosby -> I can’t even imagine having 100 hours to spend on a presentation.
19:49:36 aforgrave (Andrew) -> What about the "expert" dynamic created by the lecturer — yesterday, Jeff Jarvis welcomed "the people formerly known as the audience," acknowledging the changing role of the "listeners" …
19:49:49 robd -> @jackiegerstein Yep, I enjoyed Twitter watching while sitting at the CUE conference in California where they were talking in NY
19:50:04 jackiegerstein -> isn’t it such fun, Rob?!?
19:50:06 bcrosby -> Not even 10 hours …
19:50:09 JenM -> all the links we won’t get to tonight … http://delicious.com/edtechtalk/20100307
19:50:11 PeggyG -> oooohhhh robd! what a great multitasker!!
19:50:51 bcrosby -> Bye!
19:50:55 PeggyG -> everyone come and join us on Women of Web in 30 mins
19:51:03 lorenchuk -> Enjoyed it Thank you!
19:51:14 jackiegerstein -> What is the topic, Peggy – late for me 😉
19:51:20 aforgrave (Andrew) -> Thanks Dave, Jen, John, everybody!
19:51:24 tomfullerton -> calendar link on your site?
19:51:26 Gary -> Thanks again.
19:51:35 PeggyG -> Jill Galloway-project based learning @ 1-1 laptop New Tech HS
19:51:47 PeggyG -> http://www.newtechfoundation.org/
19:51:49 jackiegerstein -> Thanks!
19:52:17 jackiegerstein -> Dave – what is the course you and George are starting new month – couldn’t find it?
19:52:22 jackiegerstein -> next
19:52:25 robd -> Doesn’t YouTube have some type of feature that makes transcripts from recordings?
19:52:45 PeggyG -> you have to provide the transcript for YouTube to get the captions on dotsub
19:53:09 dawn -> @jackiegerstein i want to know too
19:53:11 PeggyG -> very stimulating conversation tonight!!!!
19:53:17 cyndidannerkuhn -> thnaks good show, very interesting
19:53:27 Gary -> Dave always has Oscar time.
19:53:29 csitterley -> Great conversation tonight-lots of ideas-and challenges as usual
19:53:34 JenM -> @gary … good one
19:53:39 PeggyG -> night everyone
19:53:44 JenM -> nite all
19:53:48 jackiegerstein -> thanks
19:53:52 sheila -> thanks all!
19:53:57 dendari -> night all
