EdTechTalk#26 Chat Transcript

EdTechTalk#26 – Chat Transcript

November 20, 2005

[dave-on-air] we’re 15 minutes from showtime…

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[dave-on-air] greetings

[dave-on-air] show starts in 10

[Damian] Hi there Dave.

[dave-on-air] pre-show is on now

[Damian] Where do we have sound?

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[Damian] Is there any control for mike feed or only text chat?

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[BobS] Hello all

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[JeffLebow] Hi Bob

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[BobS] I’m having trouble with the stream… in all formats… it plays for a few seconds and then stops (rebuffers)

[dave-on-air] hi bob

[dave-on-air] that shouldn’t be happening bob

[dave-on-air] anyone else having stream problems?

[mickiz] It’s working fine for me!!!

[dave-on-air] working fine for me as well

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[Damian] I have opened Windows Media Player still at 66% (56kbps dialup).

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[mickiz] My school computer rooms won’t let me use these programs…they are blocked!

[BobS] wow… weird… now I keep losing the chat…

[BobS] have to log out and log back in…

[BobS] I did try the 24kbs stream… same problem

[dave-on-air] new show time start 11:05

[dave-on-air] mmm…

[dave-on-air] not sure what to tell you bob…

[dave-on-air] you’re on a mac?

[BobS] i’ll play around. yes on mac

[dave-on-air] itunes…

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[Bob_S] lost chat again

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[Harold_Jarche] cool

[mickiz] πŸ˜€

[Harold_Jarche] hi guys πŸ™‚

[Harold_Jarche] is that bad?

[Jeff_from_Ann_Arbor] Harold always glad to have you, You had a real sense of competent computing for me.

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[RuthV] Hi again!

[mickiz] what’s your skype?

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[JeffLebow] worldbridges…. but please tune in to the audio by clicking the webcast links below… and then skype in later with questions

[JeffLebow] and comments

[teacherruth] Sounds good, Dave!

[Harold_Jarche] you really know what you’re talking about? πŸ˜‰

[mickiz] Is this your usual time???

[JeffLebow] yes

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[Harold_Jarche] moodle does have a wiki module, which is cool

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[JohnHibbs] Wow. Lots of people here – not manyin tapped in

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[JohnHibbs] the stream is lovely

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[Harold_Jarche] are #26 show notes online?

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[JeffLebow] learnerblogs.org

[JeffLebow] edublogs.org

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[Harold_Jarche] or uniblogs.org for higher ed πŸ™‚

[JeffLebow] show notes are kind of online – last minute post with very messy formatting

[Harold_Jarche] thx

[Daf] hi everybody!

[doris3m] Hello! Daf!

[dave-on-air] hi guys

[Daf] πŸ™‚

[doris3m] You’re my lazarillo!

[Moira] Hi Dafne

[Daf] lol

[JohnHibbs] Newbie question – in advance of the Brainstorm session, do you put up a web page in advance where the urls which yo mention are

[JohnHibbs] posted?

[doris3m] Love what you do!

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[Daf] they put them on the chat area, then on the notes

[Harold_Jarche] brainstorms are a lot of fun – that’s why I keep coming back

[JohnHibbs] so, if I google Brainstorming, I will find you?

[dave-on-air] edtechtalk.com

[dave-on-air] there are 11 brainstorms posted

[dave-on-air] and the times are annouced at the top of the page

[sroseman] these brainstorms have been incredible for me as well

[Daf] yesssss

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[RuthV] Hi Nellie!

[Harold_Jarche] I listen to you guys on my mp3 when I’m driving

[mickiz] hi Nellie!!!

[Daf] this is a homey webcast

[nelliemuller] Hi everyone

[Harold_Jarche] dave’s gone to the dark side πŸ˜‰

[nelliemuller] Hi Jeff

[Daf] hi Nelie

[JohnHibbs] ya, ya, Mac os ten — you will love it!

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[nelliemuller] Hi Daf

[Daf] πŸ™‚

[nelliemuller] Hi Mickiz

[JohnHibbs] Imon exactly that machine

[nelliemuller] where is the sound?

[JohnHibbs] crashed?

[Harold_Jarche] tell us about neo-office dave

[JohnHibbs] never had one yet!

[JohnHibbs] still cant’ get into elumniate though. ):

[sroseman] wow this ahould be an ad for Mac

[sroseman] should

[JohnHibbs] Sorry to tell you, you can’t use Talking Communities (iVocalize) which Alado uses to get in with a Mac

[nelliemuller] I use hotconference rooms

[JohnHibbs] Jeff, I hear him on the telephone too…have you guys been using the phone room?

[nelliemuller] I just had a marvelous demo on how to use them

[nelliemuller] they have white boards and sound

[JohnHibbs] worked fine for me a few days ago. but not now

[JohnHibbs] Alado (I think does not support Mac an more) they did for a while.

[JohnHibbs] I use safari, firefox and i.e.

[JohnHibbs] and tried them all with elumniate

[JohnHibbs] grrrrrr

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[nelliemuller] Ruth, David, gave Merav and I a demo on how to teach English online using the hotconference rooms

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[JeffLebow] http://superglu.com

[Jeff_from_Ann_Arbor] I used Mac Flock and upgraded my Java and I was good to go.

[nelliemuller] Ok, now I can hear “welcome”.

[JohnHibbs] superglue is a heck of an aggregator!

[ElizabethH-S] where is the stream?

[JeffLebow] webcast links below

[nelliemuller] Hello Elisabeth

[Harold_Jarche] http://jarche.suprglu.com my work in progress

[JohnHibbs] stream is hard to find. I had to go back to itunes to click on the url for it.

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[JohnHibbs] I could not get into http://wordbridges.com

[RuthV] Use IE John

[dave-on-air] worldbridges.com

[JohnHibbs] (actually, I clicked on the iTunes icon) …it found Worldbridges

[JeffLebow] http://elgg.net/

[RuthV] Firefox is bad with worldbridges

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[Harold_Jarche] go elgg go!

[JohnHibbs] I probably have to use I.E. — once you use an apple and firefox you just hate, hate, hate i.e.


[sroseman] here’s my suprglu

[sroseman] http://www.sroseman.suprglu.com/

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[ElizabethH-S] Have you upgrade your FireFox lately?

[nelliemuller] thank you, that

[nelliemuller] ‘s great

[ElizabethH-S] Dave–how do you get to the audio?

[JohnHibbs] agree!

[JohnHibbs] about superglue

[Daf] click on the icons below the chat area, Eliz

[JeffLebow] Click on one of the media player icons below

[lbaber] safari works well with worldbridges

[Harold_Jarche] ed musings suprglu has neat colour scheme πŸ™‚

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[RuthV] try http://worldbridges.com/stream.ram

[JohnHibbs] yup, I’m on safari now and listening with pleasure…and text chat too and on the phone too

[RuthV] Fine:-)

[nelliemuller] what is elg?

[dave-on-air] http://elgg.net

[Harold_Jarche] main value of elgg = completely centred on the learner – may scare some teachers

[ElizabethH-S] Duh–thanks Daf

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[JohnHibbs] What’s missing? A single web page with a list of URL’s for this particular hour, with an Arabic number next to that list…so t

[Daf] πŸ™‚

[ElizabethH-S] I had Real Player open and though it would start automatically.

[JohnHibbs] the panelists can say – click on number twelve or number twenty four

[JohnHibbs] and viewers can choose to link or not link

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[Harold_Jarche] John – there’s a character limit on this chat

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[JohnHibbs] Even a blog site where people could add their links, but with the requirement that they add the Arabic number

[JohnHibbs] Jeff, I don’t completely agree with that.

[Harold_Jarche] … and a great price guys πŸ˜‰

[Damian] Which is the Windows Media Player icon?

[JohnHibbs] that you have to have different ways to listen — yes, that is right. if you have this, or that, or x, then click here

[JohnHibbs] Nice presentation

[Harold_Jarche] and now a free educators version of basecamp

[Moira] when, where and when???

[JohnHibbs] Let me now plug the telephone — yes Skype is terrific, but you an also phone in on anordinary phone card for one cent per minut

[JohnHibbs] usa one cent

[lbaber] Thank you, thank you, thank you for recording this weekends event!!!!

[RuthV] I’ll send u questions, Jeff

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[JohnHibbs] Jeff where is the best place to text chat

[dave-on-air] lol… we’re sure you will ruth πŸ™‚

[Ilse] I have no sound

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[dave-on-air] have you tried clicking ‘listen to the stream’

[dave-on-air] on the bottom of the chatroom?

[JohnHibbs] im on the phone now

[RuthV] lol

[dave-on-air] unmute yourself john

[dave-on-air] we’d love your input

[Ilse] where’s that bottom?

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[dave-on-air] red text under the chatroom

[yaodong] Hello!all.

[RuthV] But use ie

[doris3m] Hello, yaodong!

[yaodong] hi,doris.

[yaodong] any audio here

[Ilse] yes I clicked on real player but nothing happens

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[doris3m] scroll down and click on the icon

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[Ilse] I did

[Damian] Hi. Finally got it, but can audience use the mike?

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[dave-on-air] you can call the teleconference or skype in

[chee] do u use skype to talk here

[Moira] Question: for those who have not been able to be online this weekend, do you have facilities to know how many people listen to

[dave-on-air] we are currently… and the sound is webcasted

[Moira] to the recorded sessions?

[chee] is your voice live now

[chee] can not hear

[dave-on-air] yes

[Moira] do you do any statistics on this?

[Damian] How do I Skype in. What handle do I use?

[RuthV] Skype worldbridges

[JohnHibbs] or telephone 402 756 9000 access 537267

[chee] john good to see you

[Harold_Jarche] you have been clear for whole show – FF, WinXP, winamp

[chee] i can access skype

[chee] what is the phone

[JeffLebow] If anyone would like to join the conversation, you can also let me know your skype ID and I will skype you

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[JeffLebow] Nellie here we come… please turn your webcast off before joining

[chee] my name is cheehan06

[chee] sorry

[chee] cheehan05

[doris3m] What’s your skype ID Jeff?

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[JeffLebow] worldbridges

[mickiz] Way to go Nellie!!

[Harold_Jarche] you sound clear nellie

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[dave-on-air] audacity

[aiden] total recorder works too

[mickiz] How about using something like CoolEdit – I have THAT

[aiden] or real player 9

[ElizabethH-S] Audacity or WireTap

[mickiz] I agree !!!!

[ElizabethH-S] Does the phone ring in Skype create a problem for the webcast?

[Damian] Do I have to turn off WMPlayer in order to Skype in?

[dave-on-air] absolutely

[RuthV] πŸ˜•

[Damian] And the chat room?

[Jeff_from_Ann_Arbor] For those who want to record audio on a Mac WireTap is free but unsupported and Audio Hijack Pro is $30.

[digibridge] Elizabeth is in the chat room

[Harold_Jarche] i used skype out last time and called the tel #

[RuthV] I see Harold. That’s good!

[Jeff_from_Ann_Arbor] I have already watched recorded Elluminate Sessions from this weekend that are posted already in learningtimes

[Harold_Jarche] about 3 cents per minute i think

[Damian] Nellie sound too loud and clear here on Corfu Greece.

[JohnHibbs] well, you ca nskype into the telphoen roo for pennies a minute

[Damian] Ah, that was the reason I could not skype in.

[mickiz] What is your skype?

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[JohnHibbs] if what you hvet o say or listen to is not worht pennies aminute maybe you should not be there.:) πŸ™‚

[yaodong] I watched two sessions of the recording,they were beatuiful.

[mickiz] Thanks Nellie…….

[JohnHibbs] elizabeth too slight

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[JohnHibbs] isnt shout cast free

[RuthV] You sounded great Nellie!

[dave-on-air] yes shoutcast is free

[dave-on-air] but the connection to shoutcast is not

[lbaber] Staying on line problems!!

[aiden] simnple cast/oddcast

[dave-on-air] skype cannot be connected directly to the standard winamp connection to shoutcast

[JohnHibbs] qute a better, but elizabeth ples speak up

[digibridge] we are hearing you in real time it seems

[dave-on-air] you are about 20 seconds behind

[lbaber] anyone having trouble hearing with iTunes today.

[chee] why not daily

[Daf] I agree, Elizabeth

[yaodong] i cna’t hear at all. i try realone.

[Damian] I tried iTunes, but there was some problem.

[JeffLebow] It might be a China issue Yaodong… so sorry

[chee] yaodong i hear something

[chee] but dont know if it is real time

[sroseman] using Real Player

[Damian] The bad thing is that we don’t know who is talking each turn.

[JeffLebow] It’s about 30 second delay

[JeffLebow] We should identify ourselves before we speak

[yaodong] No china issue,Jeff.i hear it wellnow.:))

] I would like to get to another WiAOC presentation, so must go!

[Moira] Thank you πŸ˜€

[ElizabethH-S] It’s a wonderful group.

[Damian] Is there a way to save the text chat?

[leeb] Thanks to all y’all.. lol

[ElizabethH-S] free is good

[Harold_Jarche] free is best

[Ilse] Thanks everybody

[aiden] πŸ˜‰

[aiden] I am, too

[Harold_Jarche] dave it’s noon for you – get out of your PJ’s πŸ˜‰

[aiden] it’s midnight in taiwan

[sroseman] yep I am still in my pjs

[aiden] about to hit the sack

[Daf] noon for me

[sroseman] love the informality of these conferences

[sroseman] once you are paid ..there is some stress

[Moira] how long are the recordings kept online?

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[aiden] bye folks

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[Harold_Jarche] some static from dave

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[Harold_Jarche] it’s static from his PJ’s

[Daf] see you at LT, guys, thanks for everything!

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[Harold_Jarche] very loud though

[leeb] where is the next event?

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[leeb] LT?

[Harold_Jarche] learning times

[Harold_Jarche] http://www.learningtimes.org/

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[leeb] thanks

[Harold_Jarche] will work for chocolate too

[leeb] Its on the way!

[Harold_Jarche] cool

[Harold_Jarche] skyping in

[leeb] Extra Dark……Organic

[JeffLebow] would anyone like to join in?

[digibridge] there is a global resistance to deploying technology and distance education solutions even in the US

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[digibridge] it’s ok Harold

[digibridge] it’s minor it’s not a problem

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[sroseman] 10 steps at to having a successful audio chat..like tappedin

[digibridge] that was my presentation in alado this morning

[nelliemuller] echo

[digibridge] even video tapes have and VCR

[digibridge] have three international standards

[digibridge] and most video recorders are not cross platforms

[Harold_Jarche] still don’t really understand technology

[digibridge] digital literacy is still very low internationally

[JohnHibbs] back soon, lovely conversation

[JeffLebow] digibridge, would you like to join in?

[digibridge] it can be further compounded by adding another layer of ESL and EFL layered on top of a lack of digital literacy

[digibridge] Jeff this is Andy Pincon

[disedlibrarian] don’t forget to tell people how to tell what OS and browser they are using

[sroseman] maybe you should have tips and tricks sessions or virtual tours

[JeffLebow] Ah, thought I recognized that name

[digibridge] tips and tricks is a good start

[JeffLebow] Would love to hear you comments Andy

[digibridge] a cross platform wiki would be a great idea

[digibridge] that would be one place for all FAQ’s , tutorings and help desk tips

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[sroseman] Here is how to start a wiki

[sroseman] http://www.sroseman.suprglu.com/

[JeffLebow] http://jarche.org/

[sroseman] sorry http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wiki_science_HowToStartAWiki

[Harold_Jarche] nope – jarche.com

[JeffLebow] oops, sorry

[Harold_Jarche] all info is free to use 7 copy (creative commons)

[disedlibrarian] as a librarian, I recommend encyclopedia of all sorts as background, but always check the info

[Harold_Jarche] http://halfanhour.blogspot.com/2005/07/principles-for-evaluating-websites.html

[disedlibrarian] I like that one!

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[digibridge] my daughter is asking for her breakfast so I’ll say farewell for now. Let me know if you put up a wiki for all users

[digibridge] and I’ll contribute, bye for now guys

[digibridge] Andy Pincon

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[dave-on-air] audiostory

[dave-on-air] please go here and tell us how you get your audio to work here on edtechtalk

[Harold_Jarche] might want to try this – http://marratechfree.com/

[Dennis] Marratechfree seems to have a lot of possibility.

[sroseman] why not have an hour session here

[Dennis] The requirement that you have a static IP address would eliminate many teacher users.

[Dennis] (Many of us, even if we have broadband, don’t have a static IP address.)

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[nelliemuller] Can you get the links in again, please?

[JeffLebow] Would you like to join in again Nellie?

[nelliemuller] I had to log out

[Dennis] audiostory

[Dennis] http://marratechfree.com

[nelliemuller] yes, and the other one as well, please

[nelliemuller] thank you

[nelliemuller] I used the wiki with Moodle but I also prefer forums

[JeffLebow] We’ve got space in the conference if anyone would like to join in

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[nelliemuller] Jeff, are you familiar with the hotconference rooms?

[JeffLebow] no, would love to hear more

[JeffLebow] Saw you mention them in chat, but have not had first hand experience

[JeffLebow] Ready to join in?

[nelliemuller] I use them for online teaching

[nelliemuller] of ESL

[Dennis] I saw a couple of places in a Google search, Nellie. Is this what you’re referring to?

[Dennis] http://www.hotconference.net/

[Dennis] Is this the same?

[Dennis] http://www.hotconference.ca/

[nelliemuller] http://www.makeaneasywebsite.com/main/voip_conference_rooms

[nelliemuller] The only way to get them is through MLM business deals

[nelliemuller] yes

[JeffLebow] what’s MLM

[nelliemuller] you get it for $1 trial period for one month

[nelliemuller] online business and networking

[nelliemuller] Multi Level Marketing

[JeffLebow] thx

[sroseman] Find a hook..to bring them in

[nelliemuller] You can get 1,000’s of people in

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[Harold_Jarche] try this http://www.wikiwyg.net/

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[sroseman] is there a sandbox still in wiki where you can play and explore

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[Dennis] Hi, Lee.

[Dennis] It was nice to hear your voice!

[Harold_Jarche] with wikis – just do it

[Dennis] Good points about allowing time for things to “seep in.”

[Dennis] I think what often happens with conferences is that people get hyped up with new ideas, concepts, contacts, etc. etc. etc., but

[Dennis] but then everything fades quickly when they have to re-enter “the real world.”

[Harold_Jarche] local culture is hard to change

[sroseman] gotta go to consolidate

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[Harold_Jarche] ed tech musician http://aseymour.blogspot.com/

[Harold_Jarche] gotta go

[Dennis] http://edtechmusician.libsyn.com/

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[dave-on-air] hi bob

[dave-on-air] you’re back

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[JeffLebow] Bob, would you like to do a sound check?

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[Bob_Sprankle] Howdy Jeff

[Bob_Sprankle] Looks like things are working better

[Bob_Sprankle] sound check in skype?

[Dennis] Which of the URLS is the right one for Ed Tech Musician, Jeff or Dave?

[JeffLebow] yes

[JeffLebow] you can skype ‘worldbridges’

[dave-on-air] don’t really know

[Dennis] Which of the URLs for Ed Tech Musician is better, Jeff?

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[Dennis] There were two posted. One is only a blog.

[Bob_Sprankle] I lost it all again πŸ™

[Bob_Sprankle] keep losing chat as well

[Dennis] The one at http://aseymour is a glog.

[Dennis] The other one has podcasts.

[Bob_Sprankle] this has been a tough weekend for technology… everything keeps busting πŸ™ lol

[Dennis] A GLOG? a blog.

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[Dennis] Thanks, Jeff and DaveΓƒβ€˜and everyone.

[dave-on-air] i was wondering what a glog was

[dave-on-air] hoping someone else would ask

[Dennis] Thanks again.

[Bob_Sprankle] test

[dave-on-air] hey bob

[dave-on-air] nice test…

[leeb] Ok… what is a Glog?

[dave-on-air] bob can you skype me at – coarsesalt

[disedlibrarian] hmmm, vblog is video blog, so glog would be….graphite log? (ie pencil)

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[leeb] ok.. so wacom … think pad etc.\

elderbob h

[elderbob] Hello.

[leeb] HI Bob

[elderbob] Dave are you already on the air?

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